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Delta to retire last commercial service Douglas DC-9 aircraft
Delta News Archive ^ | Dec. 24, 2013

Posted on 12/24/2013 12:12:05 PM PST by Olog-hai

Delta Air Lines on Jan. 6, 2014 will retire its remaining Douglas DC-9 aircraft following Flight 2014 scheduled to depart Minneapolis/St. Paul for Atlanta at 4:20 p.m. (CST), the last scheduled commercial flight of the DC-9 by a major U.S. airline.

“The DC-9 has been a workhorse in our domestic fleet while providing a reliable customer experience,” said Nat Pieper, Delta’s vice president (for) Fleet Strategy. “The aircraft’s retirement paves the way for newer, more efficient aircraft.”

Since 2008, Delta has removed or retired more than 350 aircraft from its fleet including 50-seat CRJ-200s; Saab 340s and DC-9s; while adding economically efficient, proven-technology aircraft such as the Boeing 777-200LR; two-class, 65 and 76-seat regional jets and variants of the 737 and 717, largely on a capacity-neutral basis. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airlines; dal; delta; douglasdc9

1 posted on 12/24/2013 12:12:05 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Recall Northwest Airlines bought a gaggle of Swiss Air DC-9s. The repaint was a snap...
2 posted on 12/24/2013 12:20:38 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Olog-hai

Probably a leftover from the Northwest Airlines merger. Braniff used to have a bunch of DC-9’s in their fleet back in the day.


3 posted on 12/24/2013 12:22:48 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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4 posted on 12/24/2013 12:30:32 PM PST by mcmuffin (Freedom's On The March - Wave Goodbye!)
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To: mcmuffin

I remember getting on one of these in the 90s and seeing on the serial number plate it was almost as old as I was LOL.


5 posted on 12/24/2013 12:34:14 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: tflabo

North Central had DC-9s when they were bought by NWA.


6 posted on 12/24/2013 12:42:36 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Olog-hai

They’ve been called MD-80’s for a long time. It was really nice when Alaska retired the last one. I hated flying in the things.


7 posted on 12/24/2013 12:44:02 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Olog-hai

So what happens to them?
Are scrapped or sold to 3rd world airlines?


8 posted on 12/24/2013 12:44:27 PM PST by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: rhinohunter

Some will be sold to foreign or smaller carriers while others will likely be converted to cargo use.


9 posted on 12/24/2013 12:46:16 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Olog-hai

Very nice quiet ride if you sat near the front. Back near the engines was another matter.


10 posted on 12/24/2013 12:46:51 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: cuban leaf

The older DC-9s are still called DC-9. The “MD-80” started with the DC-9-80 airframe.


11 posted on 12/24/2013 12:48:17 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

North Central had merged with Southern by the time the NW merger happened and was Republic Airlines.


12 posted on 12/24/2013 12:51:44 PM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: nascarnation
Good afternoon. Flown on a DC9 from MSP to ATL a number of times.

I remember getting on one of these in the 90s and seeing on the serial number plate it was almost as old as I was LOL.

I believe there are two sons of BUFF pilots flying the same aircraft their fathers did. Well, the H model anyway.

Amazing.

5.56mm

13 posted on 12/24/2013 12:53:41 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: AnAmericanInEngland

You’re right.
I’d lost track of Republic but don’t remember “Southern.”


14 posted on 12/24/2013 1:00:24 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Olog-hai
A new day is dawning, Boeing 797, 1000 passenger, mach .88 (654 mph):

 photo Boeing797.jpg

 photo Boeing797flight.jpg

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There are several big advantages in the "Blended Wing & Fuselage" design, the most important being the Lift to Drag ratio which is expected to increase by an amazing 50%, resulting in an overall weight reduction of the aircraft by 25%, making it an estimated 33% more fuel efficient than the A380, and thus making the Airbus's $13 Billion Dollar investment look pretty shaky.

15 posted on 12/24/2013 1:09:16 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

Snopes calls this false:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/boeing797.asp


16 posted on 12/24/2013 1:13:45 PM PST by TapsBrowning
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To: TapsBrowning

Damn, duped again.


17 posted on 12/24/2013 1:15:39 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: M Kehoe
Capt. David Welsh is flying a buff his grandpa flew
18 posted on 12/24/2013 1:17:53 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: NonValueAdded

His dad flew it too. David “Swoop” Welsh. Searchable, several articles.


19 posted on 12/24/2013 1:19:55 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: M Kehoe
I remember when the skies were filled with DC-9s back in the 1970s. Hard to believe that airplanes can last that long considering the daily abuse they take. I have a car for four or five years and it's ready for the scrap heap.

On July 31, 1973, one of these DC-9s (Delta) flew several hundred feet over my East Boston childhood home before crashing into a seawall killing all 89 aboard (though one surviver lasted several months). My father, who worked at the airport at the time, was on the scene.

Pilot error. He came into the fog too low.


20 posted on 12/24/2013 1:31:28 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: gorush

Boeing 797 has been an email/internet hoax since 2006! Unreal how these hoaxes keep going and going.


21 posted on 12/24/2013 1:33:38 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Yup...I just got the e-mail last week.


22 posted on 12/24/2013 1:34:18 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Olog-hai

“Have you ever seen Dallas from a DC-9 at night?”


23 posted on 12/24/2013 1:36:04 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Olog-hai

A big tip of the hat to the maintenance crew who have kept these things in the air that long.

The article also says delta has retired their crj-200’s which isn’t exactly true. They have all been moved to delta connection. I flew on one last week.


24 posted on 12/24/2013 1:39:38 PM PST by barmag25 (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

The DC-9 was always a pilot favorite. The rear mounted engines make the wing very efficient. The Boeing 717 which is based on the DC-9 is very efficient and reliable, but it lacks commonality with other Boeings, making it uneconomical for most airlines.

Delta is taking over all of AirTran’s 717’s after AirTran was acquired by Southwest. That’s probably why Delta is retiring the DC-9.


25 posted on 12/24/2013 1:45:38 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

Airline mechanic here (A&P/FCC).., The DC-9 was a great a/c. The last of them Delta is retiring is the -50 version (lead sled).

The 717 is crap and very unreliable. Sure it sips fuel but leaves passengers and crew stranded.


26 posted on 12/24/2013 1:55:02 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: rhinohunter

Both. The oldest will be scrapped and cannibalized to keep the rest flying.


27 posted on 12/24/2013 1:55:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Java4Jay
What's changed?
The wisdom of the Boeing decision gradually became apparent. Early 717 operators were delighted with the reliability and passenger appeal of the type and ordered more. The small Australian regional airline Impulse is an example. Impulse took a long term lease on five 717s in early 2000, to begin an aggressive expansion into mainline routes. To the surprise of few, the ambitious move could not be sustained in competition with the majors and Impulse sold out to Qantas in May, 2001. This left Qantas with a more-or-less unwanted handful of warmed-over DC-9s to spoil the efficiency of its fleet of large Boeing and small BAe 146 jets.

Within a few months, however, the abilities of the 717 became clear. It is roomier and faster than the BAe-146, cheaper to operate, and has achieved an outstanding dispatch reliability of 99.6%. Maintenence costs are very low: a check C inspection, for example, takes just three days and is required only once in 4500 flying hours. For comparison, the old DC-9, which was always well regarded by engineering departments for its fuss free nature, needed 21 days for a check C. The new Rolls Royce BR715 engine design is highly modular: none of the line replaceable units takes more than an hour to exchange and about a third of them can be changed in under 15 minutes. Boeing claims a better than 10% operating cost advantage over the A318.

The result has been that many 717 operators, even accidental ones like Qantas, have become converts to the type. Qantas has bought more 717s to bring their fleet up to 14, and it is the front running candidate to replace their large BAe 146 fleet as well. Other significant orders have come from Hawaiian Airlines, Midwest Express, and Pembroke Leasing.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:45wEO0X1urcJ:www.flightlevel350.com/Boeing-717_aircraft_facts.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
28 posted on 12/24/2013 2:00:49 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SamAdams76
I have the hyper mileage super carburetor the evil oil companies bought from GM.
29 posted on 12/24/2013 2:08:13 PM PST by TurboZamboni ("PEACE ON EARTH TO MEN OF GOOD WILL".)
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To: NonValueAdded
Hopefully he has a son to pass the family plane to a fourth generation.
30 posted on 12/24/2013 2:30:36 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: NonValueAdded
Capt. David Welsh is flying a buff his grandpa flew

Wow.

5.56mm

31 posted on 12/24/2013 3:12:19 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Olog-hai

When I was a kid in the early 60s my Father bought me a used pair of Nippon Kogaku binoculars for my birthday.

Our property was just East of the Southern Airlines flight path. I used to go to the top of the pasture and watch DC-3s headed to Atlanta from Ft. Walton Bch/Eglin. I don’t recall ever seeing jet passenger planes.

On the other hand, I got to see all kinds of military jets. We lived around 25 miles NE of Eglin main and were also in the area they flew very often.


32 posted on 12/24/2013 3:31:23 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Army Air Corps

I thought the MD-80 was a DC-9 with some updates and different engines.


33 posted on 12/24/2013 3:31:36 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

The DC-9-80 introduced a series of improvements to the basic DC-9 airframe. The stretch and upgrade is treated as a new family of aircraft. Pre -80 airframes are still DC-9s.


34 posted on 12/24/2013 4:40:41 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: gorush

Imagine being the passengers sitting in the outer wing seats. You’ll go up and down 30 or 40 feet every time the plane banks. They’d have to put you in a bubble so the vomit doesn’t wash down the aisles.


35 posted on 12/29/2013 6:00:05 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Moonman62

I don’t remember the Boeing 717, but I do remember the 727, which looked an awful lot like an MD-80 or DC-9. I used to fly Eastern Airlines 727’s from DC to Hartford in the 70’s. It had the same noise problems in the rear, and I was happy with the 737 with the engines on the wings.


36 posted on 01/05/2014 9:52:49 PM PST by Wingy
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