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Boy Scouts open ranks to gay youth on Jan. 1
Associated Press ^ | Dec. 28, 2013 12:12 PM EST | David Crary and Nomaan Merchant

Posted on 12/28/2013 9:58:17 AM PST by Olog-hai

The Boy Scouts of America will accept openly gay youths starting on New Year’s Day, a historic change that has prompted the BSA to ponder a host of potential complications—ranging from policies on tentmates and showers to whether Scouts can march in gay pride parades.

Yet despite their be-prepared approach, BSA leaders are rooting for the change to be a non-event, comparable to another New Year’s Day in 2000 when widespread fears of digital-clock chaos to start the new millennium proved unfounded.

“My hope is there will be the same effect this Jan. 1 as the Y2K scare,” said Brad Haddock, a BSA national executive board member who chairs the policy implementation committee. “It’s business as usual, nothing happens and we move forward.”

Some churches are dropping their sponsorship of Scout units because of the new policy and some families are switching to a new conservative alternative called Trail Life USA. But massive defections haven’t materialized and most major sponsors, including the Roman Catholic and Mormon churches, are maintaining ties. …

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; chickenhawks; cultureofcorruption; culturewar; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; manboylove; predators; rapingmychildhood; romney; sexualizingchildren

1 posted on 12/28/2013 9:58:17 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Our troop already had a gay Scout. But now he’s not gay anymore so I don’t know what to do.


2 posted on 12/28/2013 9:59:12 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

> maybe his gay parent’s influence isn’t as strong as that of the den.


3 posted on 12/28/2013 10:01:49 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Olog-hai

My daughters school had a kid who was so proud of how gay he was

Then he went to college and met a woman (he never actually dated a guy, ever)

Schools are trying to make kids THINK they are gay and giving encouragement. I think they even gave him a scholarship


4 posted on 12/28/2013 10:02:40 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Happy” trails to you...


5 posted on 12/28/2013 10:03:05 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Olog-hai

Oh it will be a “non-event” all right when no scouts show up to enroll. That’s what they wanted of course.


6 posted on 12/28/2013 10:03:12 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

And when their coffers dry up...

Well, we’ve seen THAT movie before.


7 posted on 12/28/2013 10:06:39 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Olog-hai
Some churches are dropping their sponsorship of Scout units because of the new policy... But massive defections haven’t materialized...

They will regret this... because the real target IS the churches. Watch what happens when some parent or leader tells a kid he is wrong to be gay... or that it's sinful. Not only will the parent/leader be sued, but the scout troop and the church that sponsors them will be as well. The right of association is no longer a defense, because it was relinquished by the BSA and ratified by sponsors by implication for NOT disassociating.
8 posted on 12/28/2013 10:09:49 AM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Olog-hai

get your kids OUT of BSA NOW!
(there are alternatives)


9 posted on 12/28/2013 10:10:32 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: unixfox

It’s already happening.

There was a sob-story out of Tampa last week about how the local council is $75,000 in the hole due to a drop-off in donations.

Breaks my heart—NOT!


10 posted on 12/28/2013 10:11:39 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Olog-hai

Bye-bye incandescent bulbs and the Boy Scouts on Jan.1!


11 posted on 12/28/2013 10:18:04 AM PST by golf lover (goingf)
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To: Olog-hai
Couldn't the gays just have started their own program and left BSA alone?

I'm sure the "Man-Boy Camping Club" would have been a real hit.

12 posted on 12/28/2013 10:18:41 AM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve thought that the idea of gay boy scouts doesn’t make sense. My view is that we’re talking about boys and young men, who are still growing and maturing. I will be called homophobic by some, but, I don’t see how young people can know for sure that they are gay at a young age.

And since scouting has nothing to do with sexuality anyway, I never thought this new policy made sense. It’s all about political correctness, it’s all about caving in to pressure groups who want to influence impressionable children.

If someone turns 18 and is an adult, and feels gay, they can head on down to The Castro and other such places and explore that to their hearts content. In my opinion, this subject has no place among children in the first place.


13 posted on 12/28/2013 10:24:11 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Olog-hai

Beginning of the end for the BSA. Get in bed with the devil, and don’t be surprised when you get screwed. The homosexual-pedophile crowd has thoroughly infiltrated the scouts with the help and encouragement of the socialist democrats. Anyone who votes for the DNC are for pedophilia. Your children are NOT safe around anyone who votes democrat!


14 posted on 12/28/2013 10:24:38 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Olog-hai

if you want your son to grow up to be pajama boy... keep him in the fag scouts


15 posted on 12/28/2013 10:25:38 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Olog-hai

Since the infamous vote on this degeneration of the BSAs moral values earlier this year, our family will no longer support BSA in any way, shape of fashion.


16 posted on 12/28/2013 10:26:16 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Olog-hai

Damn those people who did this to scouting to eternal fire

That program helped young men grow and mature for over 100 years and the as holes on the board of directors rolled over and gave it all away


17 posted on 12/28/2013 10:28:12 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: AppyPappy

Don’t worry.. I’m sure a gay Scoutmaster will convert one of the other boys


18 posted on 12/28/2013 10:30:57 AM PST by digger48
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To: AppyPappy

Make an emergency call to GLAAD and GLSEN so they can dispatch their teams to come in and re-orient this confused lad.


19 posted on 12/28/2013 10:41:26 AM PST by DPMD
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It’s not important whether they know for sure at that age if they’re gay or not. What matters to the gay mafia is that they’re unsure; gay counselors are poised to pounce on these normal teenagers and close the deal. That’s the whole point of the gay move into youth activities.


20 posted on 12/28/2013 10:43:45 AM PST by DPMD
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To: DPMD

Christians should abandon the BSA


21 posted on 12/28/2013 10:44:40 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Olog-hai

What new merit badges are they going to have?


22 posted on 12/28/2013 10:50:47 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Olog-hai

2014 America:

The homosexual scout master is taking the boys on an outing to the woods...

As hundreds of thousands of children line the Rose Parade route, a gay float with two homosexuals on top, will be getting married and while kissing and groping each other..

You should be proud America!


23 posted on 12/28/2013 10:59:41 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

don’t forget they were throwing color condoms to the kids


24 posted on 12/28/2013 11:01:01 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

The gay homo float will be followed by the Pasadena Pedophile Marching Band...


25 posted on 12/28/2013 11:02:49 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Olog-hai
Here is THE alternative to BSA, right here:

TRAIL LIFE USA

26 posted on 12/28/2013 11:03:25 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

P.S. Trail Life USA was started AFTER and BECAUSE the BSA voted to allow gays.


27 posted on 12/28/2013 11:04:18 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: dragnet2

and here comes the Butterfly Kisses (female version of NAMBLA) right behind them in their matching uniforms.


28 posted on 12/28/2013 11:05:35 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Olog-hai
Perhaps they should change their name to

The Wood Sprites


29 posted on 12/28/2013 11:06:30 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Trail Life USA's 'Statement of Faith':

"We believe there is One Triune God – God the Father; Jesus Christ, His one and only Son; and the Holy Spirit – Creator of the universe and eternally existent. We believe the Holy Scriptures (Old and New Testaments) to be the inspired and authoritative Word of God. We believe each person is created in His image for the purpose of communing with and worshiping God. We believe in the ministry of the Holy Spirit, Who enables us to live godly lives. We believe each of us is called to love the Lord our God with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. We believe God calls us to lives of purity, service, stewardship and integrity. - See more at: http://www.traillifeusa.com/who-we-are/values/statement-of-faith-values/#sthash.jM1Iisuk.dpuf"

30 posted on 12/28/2013 11:06:55 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: GeronL

Wait until you see the illegal alien float...


31 posted on 12/28/2013 11:20:09 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I guess I could imagine.... or not


32 posted on 12/28/2013 11:22:12 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Olog-hai

Romney has supported this for 20 years, and punished the
Boy Scouts in the Winter Olympics that he ran.


33 posted on 12/28/2013 11:24:45 AM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: GeronL

I sincerely can not understand (and do doubt) that a Christian can be a Democrat.

Kind of like worshiping God on Sunday and the Devil the rest.


34 posted on 12/28/2013 11:48:39 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: Olog-hai

Here’s a question can individual units or regional councils choose to keep the old policy? If not can individual units, regional councils choose to diss associate with the national BSAs?? And has this started to happen anywhere?


35 posted on 12/28/2013 11:53:17 AM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Olog-hai

Mitt Romney’s long quest is over. They succeeded.


36 posted on 12/28/2013 11:59:05 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Olog-hai

Sexual deviancy now acceptable and no doubt to be enforced by the BSA.


37 posted on 12/28/2013 12:13:18 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Olog-hai
4/19/2013 - The BSA’s National Executive Committee (~23 voting members) released the summary of its spring study regarding acceptance of homosexuals into Scouting. Among the many findings was this statement ...

BSA 2013 Study Executive Summary

"The summary of findings said a policy change would cost the Scouts a minimum of 100,000 to 350,000 (13.5%) members. “It is believed any gain in membership because of a change to the membership policy related to youth and adults would be in the range of 10,000 to 20,000 (<1%) youth.”

As the article stated, the biggest exodus out of BSA, by Christian denomination, so far has been the Southern Baptist Convention. The LDS, UMC, and RCC all are standing with the BSA. I think the 13% loss estimated by BSA National is probably fairly accurate, but it will take several more months for BSA to accumulate and process its annual re-chartering/registration drive. All of this takes place against the big picture backdrop of ...

1. BSA membership, especially in its flagship program, Boy Scout troops (an argument could be made that Cub Scouts is now the flagship program), has been consistently eroding since 1973.

2. White male population is declining. The white population historically has always embraced Scouting more than other ethnic groups.

3. Despite decades of effort, non-white participation in Scouting continues to lag.

4. It seems clear that when BSA announced a few months ago that former Sec-Def Robert Gates would accept a 2-year appointment as BSA National President in May 2014, that BSA is laying the foundation to change the membership rules, again, to accept open homosexual adults as leaders.

38 posted on 12/28/2013 12:21:20 PM PST by MacNaughton
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35 Here’s a question can individual units or regional councils choose to keep the old policy? If not can individual units, regional councils choose to diss associate with the national BSAs?? And has this started to happen anywhere?

Your question has a name for it - "the local option."

The short answer to your question is no.

The progressives were pushing hard for the local option. The new membership standard that was accepted, i.e., open homosexual youth, is unacceptable to them. They will press for full accpetance of open homosexual adult leaders, and get it within 2 years.

39 posted on 12/28/2013 12:26:06 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: jsanders2001

Neither one of his parents are gay. But they are divorced. The poor kid never got any attention except from the girls.


40 posted on 12/28/2013 12:38:54 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: faithhopecharity

Here is a list of Boy Scout alternatives.

Conservative Boy Scout Alternatives
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/Conservative-Boy-Scout-Alternatives


41 posted on 12/28/2013 12:51:12 PM PST by tbw2
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To: OldArmy52

The problem is that many Christians who are Democrats see welfare is using the state to perform charity, help the poor, help the sick, etc.
Then supporting the big government is seen as a Christian obligation, while lessening the demand on the church and on them personally except writing a tax check.


42 posted on 12/28/2013 12:52:24 PM PST by tbw2
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To: tbw2

many Christians who are Democrats see welfare is using the state to perform charity, help the poor, help the sick, etc. …
Aside from that statement I underlined being oxymoronic, the welfare state is not a part of Christianity at all. The Bible warns against establishing big government because it promotes slavery and disease instead of health and freedom (1 Samuel 8:10-18).
43 posted on 12/28/2013 1:19:34 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

YAY. The overtaking of another American tradition by the gay agitators is complete.

And sorry BSA. It has had an affect. I don’t give them money, I don’t give them donations, I don’t volunteer for them, I don’t buy their popcorn, and I don’t loan them my camping gear anymore.

The scouts were suppose to teach them about being boys, having fun, and doing boy stuff. Now, i’m afraid, it’s going to be nothing more than a prograssive recruiting and indoctrination agency. The same as the girl scouts have become.


44 posted on 12/28/2013 3:06:22 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Olog-hai

I agree with you. I was simply repeating the explanation I was given by more than one lib.

It’s frustrating to love someone and hear them say something so freaking stupid.


45 posted on 12/28/2013 3:10:04 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Olog-hai

I think when it’s going to start to get really interesting is when you have gay Scouts with full sashes and Eagles coming up against the age limit and going “I want to be a Scouter”. They’re not going to tell those guys “no”, at least not very long or very hard. And that’s the ballgame.


46 posted on 12/28/2013 3:25:17 PM PST by RichInOC ("ARMAGEDDON!!!" *BOOM!* "And the rodents' red glare...gerbils bursting in air...")
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To: VRW Conspirator
What new merit badges are they going to have?

And when will they get fabulous new uniforms?

47 posted on 12/28/2013 9:12:17 PM PST by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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