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1/3/14

Posted on 01/03/2014 2:39:13 PM PST by Kartographer

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To: yorkiemom

Excellent. Congrats on the Mexifornia escape ;-)


41 posted on 01/04/2014 7:20:23 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Eagles6

“Berkey was having issues with the blacks.”

I got mine before that issue came up and I’m sure that was fixed (if it was ever valid) since it is the gold standard. Agencies that work in third world countries only use Berkeys so Berkey would have been all over that issue.

My son, as a director of documentary films, has been all over the world in truly arm pit places and uses the Berkey for his crew and has for over twenty years and none have ever gotten sick from water.

I got the Katadyns years ago before Berkeys were sold here. A Berkey takes out smaller impurities than the Katadyn. I had three Katadyns and this Christmas gave one of them to my sister-in-law who had nothing. I also gave her a WaterBob. They are sitting on the coast at Corpus Christi and a hurricane coming in there would surely destroy water and power. I gave her a good windup radio and solar light lantern and other items in the past.


42 posted on 01/04/2014 8:06:16 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

Sounds like you have the filter issue covered then. I wouldn’t worry about the pool water.


43 posted on 01/04/2014 10:34:30 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Pollster1
I’m 20 miles from a city of 600,000. I think that’s far enough that relatively few refugees will make it

I wouldn't feel safe unless I were a tank of gas away....and 20 miles ain't! We're 165 miles east of Los Angeles, and IMO that's not far enough.

44 posted on 01/04/2014 10:50:52 AM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: ErnBatavia
I wouldn't feel safe unless I were a tank of gas away....and 20 miles ain't! We're 165 miles east of Los Angeles, and IMO that's not far enough.

In my opinion, 165 miles is more than far enough. I don't believe zombies would actually drive starting with a full tank until it hit empty. More likely, they would drive to the first likely location, probably within a mile of their starting point. The survivors would then go a mile or two from that point. Refugees would drive out of the city until they literally ran out of gas and in some cases blocked their lane. I think you are more than far enough for practical purposes, if for no other reason than because as you get further from LA, you get closer to Vegas or some Arizona city.

As for 20 miles not being enough, you are almost certainly right. However, I have other considerations to balance. I suspect that 20 miles is far enough to substantially reduce both the number of zombies and their health when they arrive, and I am potentially betting my life on that.

45 posted on 01/04/2014 12:08:56 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Kartographer; TEXOKIE
I've mentioned before that I've been tinkering with nutritional databases, trying to come up with a good-tasting, all-in-one nutritional drink. I was inspired by an article a few months ago about a guy who had done so, but his recipes assumed you were taking a boatload of vitamin pills in addition to the drink. Since most nutritional supplements make me throw up, that wouldn't work for me.

I have come up with something, though. I ended up splitting it into 2 things instead of one, because of the way the flavors interacted. One is a chocolate/custard shake, the other is a soup.

Chocolate Custard Shake:
2 cups whole milk
2 Tablespoons cocoa
1 egg
UP TO 1/2 cup sugar (optional)

Heat the milk and cocoa together until the milk just starts to boil. Be careful if doing this on the stove, it can scorch easily. In a heat-proof dish, whisk the egg. Set the dish with the egg in a bowl or pan of hot water. Don't get the water too hot, you aren't cooking the egg yet, just warming it. When the milk is just starting to simmer, remove from heat and whisk it quickly into the egg. Chill, and add sugar to taste.

A couple of points:
-The heat from the milk is enough to cook the egg, so you don't have to worry about eating a raw egg. In fact, if you don't whisk it quickly enough you may find bits of poached egg in your milkshake. These bits don't hurt anything, but they can be unexpected.
-If you don't want chocolate, you can use brown sugar instead of white, and add vanilla and a dash of nutmeg to make eggnog.
-If you add a few tablespoons of strong coffee to the mix, it makes a very tasty mocha.

The Soup:
2 cups carrots, thinly sliced
1 cup quinoa
1 1/2 oz beef (about 2 walnuts worth)
3 cups diced tomatoes
1 1/2 cup peas
1/2 tsp ground flax
1 or 2 bullion cubes, and other seasonings to taste (I like parsley, thyme, and summer savory)

Brown the beef. Add carrots, bullion cubes, and enough water to cover, and simmer until the carrots can be pierced with a fork. Rinse the quinoa in a fine-meshed strainer, then add to the soup and simmer until soft and translucent. You might need to add more water to keep the quinoa from sticking. Add remaining ingredients (they don't take as long to cook as the carrots and quinoa.)

According to my calculations, this should provide all the nutrients necessary for one person for one day. Some of you might be noticing the problem already: After adding enough water to keep the quinoa from sticking, this makes about 3 quarts of soup. It is a very tasty soup, but even if I stuff myself I can't eat that much in a day! I'm still tinkering with recipes to see if I can shrink it down some without sacrificing nutrients, but, I'm starting to wonder if the “recommended daily requirements” might be exaggerated some.

I'm also tinkering to come up with more flavors. About halfway through the first day, I was really craving something different. I don't have a lot of time to experiment at the moment, but I might see if I could use part of the quinoa with the egg and milk to make something like rice pudding. I also want different flavors of soup, like split pea or chicken.

46 posted on 01/04/2014 5:11:37 PM PST by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Ellendra

How cool is that! I think you are making progress and narrowing in on it!


47 posted on 01/04/2014 7:25:16 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Thats how I have been doing it as well. Dont get me wrong, we still have bleach, but we use it for a lot around the house so it gets rotated pretty quickly.. for water cleaning and sanitation we are now stocking the pool shock. Stuff works great. I rotated out 2 55 gallon barrels last weekend and treated it with this. Much easier to store than bleach.


48 posted on 01/04/2014 7:37:40 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: eXe

You can also start a fire with it and any “organic” material, oil/soda/etc mixed with it.


49 posted on 01/05/2014 1:02:24 AM PST by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: mabarker1

marked


50 posted on 01/05/2014 5:38:34 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Kartographer

I stopped by IKEA yesterday and picked up four tea candle lanterns and a large package of tea candles. These are much safer than regular candles, cheaper than oil lanterns, and help you save your flashlight batteries for true emergencies.


51 posted on 01/05/2014 10:18:17 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Ellendra; TEXOKIE; Kartographer
Ellendra: " Chocolate Custard Shake: 2 cups whole milk "...

Please consider making a substitution rate for (#1) Dried milk, and (#2) Canned Evaporated milk
as many ' preppers' have these on hand, or in food storage.
In tough times , many will not have access to whole (fat included) milk ,as fats turn rancid easily in long term food storage,
and lower the time that foods can remain palatable .

52 posted on 01/05/2014 10:40:51 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; Ellendra

“Please consider making a substitution rate for (#1) Dried milk, and (#2) Canned Evaporated milk “

That makes sense. It is more concentrated, too, so more nutrients per volume.


53 posted on 01/05/2014 12:20:02 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: carriage_hill; Kartographer; The Duke

The preview does show contact info, but no info about how much it is, etc.

Looks interesting.


54 posted on 01/05/2014 12:27:13 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: JoeProBono

LOL! LOVE that image!


55 posted on 01/05/2014 12:27:56 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE

I followed the link from Google to FB, and found this:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/When-There-is-No-FEMA/639982812689717


56 posted on 01/05/2014 12:38:44 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: TEXOKIE

Nothing on Amazon, yet, either. Just that FB entry, but no price or buying info.


57 posted on 01/05/2014 12:45:08 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

I was realizing the other day the many uses simple paper can have besides as writing or drawing material. It can be used as a simple funnel for transferring grains, herbs, etc into other containers, wrap food, can be a clean surface to work on, and can make clothing or object/manufacturing patterns with it.

A roll of white butcher paper is useful for a host of applications, as well as reams of simple printer/letter paper.


58 posted on 01/05/2014 1:04:55 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Kartographer; Marcella; driftdiver

Isn’t it also possible to purify by distilling it, as if it were sea water, and the copper, etc would end up as salts?


59 posted on 01/05/2014 1:10:52 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE

“distilling it”

My son was a chemist and warned me years ago about drinking distilled water. He said it is blank of anything and will leach minerals out of your bones and body. You would not want that happening in an emergency situation that lasted a while.


60 posted on 01/05/2014 1:32:39 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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