Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Parents call police for help, cops show up and kill their 18-year-old son
The Daily Caller ^ | 1-5-2014 | Robby Soave

Posted on 01/05/2014 9:05:36 PM PST by servo1969

Two North Carolina parents are in shock after local police shot and killed their 18-year-old son in their own home, while they watched helplessly.

The family called police because they were worried about their son, Keith Vidal, who is schizophrenic and suffers from depression, according to local news. Vidal, armed with a small screwdriver, was apparently having a psychotic episode. Mark Wilsey, Vidal’s father, called the authorities to help deal with the situation.

An officer from the Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office and another from the Boiling Spring Lakes police department showed up to the house soon after. Eventually, a third officer from the Southport police department entered the home as well, and ordered the use of tasers to subdue Vidal. According to Wilsey, Vidal was pinned on the ground by two of the officers when a third said, “we don’t have time for this,” and shot Vidal, killing him.

Vidal had just turned 18, and weighed a mere 90 pounds. He couldn’t have hurt anyone with the screwdriver, and had no history of violence according to family and friends.

“There was no reason to shoot this kid,” said Wilsey in a statement. “They killed my son in cold blood. We called for help and they killed my son.”

After her son was killed, Vidal’s mother suffered a mental breakdown and was treated by medical staff.

The New Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office told The Daily Caller that no statement has been released yet, but the district attorney and state investigators are looking into the shooting.

A similar thing happened to a Georgia family in October. (RELATED: Family calls 911 for medical help, cops show up and kill son)


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; kill; newbrunswick; northcarolina; police; son
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-150151-200201 next last
Do they have time for a Murder charge?
1 posted on 01/05/2014 9:05:36 PM PST by servo1969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: servo1969

It’s almost always a bad idea to call the police.


2 posted on 01/05/2014 9:06:46 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

yeah don’t call the cops unless you want someone killed or arrested


3 posted on 01/05/2014 9:07:51 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
Proving once again the old adage that THERE'S NO SITUATION THAT CANNOT BE MADE WORSE BY THE PRESENCE OF A COP!
4 posted on 01/05/2014 9:09:31 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

It’s not ‘The Andy Griffith Show’ any longer.

The cops who come to your house don’t care about you or your loved ones or your property. They take over and do what they want. If your dog gets in their way they will shoot it. If you get in their way they will arrest or shoot you.

It’s like having the UN show up at your house.


5 posted on 01/05/2014 9:12:00 PM PST by servo1969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

At least the cops went home safe./s There is going to come a time.


6 posted on 01/05/2014 9:14:23 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
The cops in my town must have more restraint. When one of my schizophrenic patients was chasing his Mom with a chain saw, and the police responded to her 911 call, they managed to Not kill him, and get him to the hsopital.

Really sad. He was a really talented artist who later committed suicide.

7 posted on 01/05/2014 9:14:48 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
According to this, he was tasered first and then shot. Boiling Spring Lakes teen reported killed by police officer.
8 posted on 01/05/2014 9:15:59 PM PST by DannyTN (A>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

My father is a retired police officer, and I have known retired sheriffs, active cops, prison guards, etc., and know something of their mentality. They’re more concerned with being falsely accused of something, or giving people opportunity to accuse, since it is very common for people to make false accusations even in the midst of tragedies. I find it truly hard to believe that a cop just went over there and said “We don’t have time for this,’ and shot a person for no reason. It is more likely that the family invented this statement in order to set the stage for suing.

Without more details about the family, actual information about where the guy was shot, and what the police officers have to say in their defense, I would hesitate in condemning our men.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 9:16:11 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

When it comes to loved ones it is always a bad idea to call the police. The moment that call is made all control over that situation by the caller is lost, and the police, unlike the caller, have zero affection for that loved one.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 9:17:00 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

WTF?

They had him restrained. That sounds like 1st degree murder right there. Are the parents going to press charges?


11 posted on 01/05/2014 9:17:56 PM PST by Antihero101607
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dick Bachert

MEMO to the decent officers out there: CLEAN THE COWBOYS AND THUGS OUT OF YOUR RANKS OR THINGS WILL GET MUCH, MUCH WORSE FOR US ALL — INCLUDING YOU!!!!


12 posted on 01/05/2014 9:18:25 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

I noticed before leaving that cops in America were morphing into jack-booted thugs. It has been a dramatic change, beginning in the 90s, or earlier.


13 posted on 01/05/2014 9:19:44 PM PST by AlexW
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Just like shooting the dog.


14 posted on 01/05/2014 9:20:43 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

The cops spent their handling-the-mentally-ill training money on one of these.

15 posted on 01/05/2014 9:23:31 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“I would hesitate in condemning our men.”

They may be YOUR men, they are not mine. For that matter, they are not men, they are animals...


16 posted on 01/05/2014 9:24:41 PM PST by babygene ( .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Police: NC teen fatally shot self in head while handcuffed
17 posted on 01/05/2014 9:25:15 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I’m going to say again what I’ve said before in some of these situations. If 3 men cannot restrain and unarmed man, or woman, without killing him or her, they do not have proper training or procedures in place.


18 posted on 01/05/2014 9:25:31 PM PST by jocon307
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Cops need to have video cameras on them and operating during all paid time. That will keep both sides honest.


19 posted on 01/05/2014 9:28:00 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Ultimately, they’re all just bureaucrats if they work for government and lack perception.


20 posted on 01/05/2014 9:31:27 PM PST by Theodore R. (People in TX in 2014: Cornball and George P.!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Irregardless of my last statement you are correct.
We don’t know what really happened.
I do believe the situation would have had to be extreme to justify shooting him. He was just a small guy and there were three officers there. How many does it take? It seems by weight alone they could have subdued him. Unless he had a gun or something.


21 posted on 01/05/2014 9:32:44 PM PST by servo1969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Wilsui says everything was under control until a third officer arrived, and the situation took a dramatic turn.

“Murder. They murdered our son for no reason,” Wilsui said. “Everything was going good, then this fat cop from Southport walks in the room, walks around the corner, says, ‘we don’t have time for this. Tase that kid now, let’s get him out of here.’”

Wilsui says like any teenage boy, his son tried to run when he heard the word tase.

“The tasers hit him, he fell back. Two officers were on top of him. You know, he’s got the little screwdriver. I mean, I would have went and got the screwdriver from him. I went to help, and I hear a shot,” Wilsui explained.

Wilsui says he grabbed the officer so he could not shoot again.

http://www.wwaytv3.com/2014/01/05/father-says-his-18-year-old-son-was-murdered-southport-police-officer


22 posted on 01/05/2014 9:34:29 PM PST by kcvl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Cop lets police dog attack North Carolina man as he tries to surrender
23 posted on 01/05/2014 9:41:04 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Hey friend, I break up fights in bars all the time with men who weigh more than a sack of potato's. It doesn't pay much but I find it hard to believe three cops can't subdue a 90 pound kid!

24 posted on 01/05/2014 9:44:59 PM PST by vigilante2 (Re-elect nobody)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: DannyTN

>> he was tasered first and then shot

When you’re too lazy to attain decent shooting skills, the taser makes it easier to get the kill.

The time they save on target practice at the range gives the officer more time for union meetings, watching teevee, taking steroids, working out at the gym, &etc,


25 posted on 01/05/2014 9:49:53 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; null and void; MarMema; babygene

“I would hesitate to condemn our men” you say? Oh but it is just fine for to you condemn the grieving family with this beauty: “It is more likely the family invented this statement in order to set the stage for suing”. You jackboot cop-suckers are real pieces of work.


26 posted on 01/05/2014 9:55:32 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: yldstrk

yeah don’t call the cops unless you want someone killed or arrested..

BUT FIRST...they will kill the family dog. I think that’s Rule #1.


27 posted on 01/05/2014 9:56:49 PM PST by DefeatCorruption
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

They should have called a plumber instead.

BTW how’s the family dog???


28 posted on 01/05/2014 9:59:51 PM PST by Uncle Chip
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Uncle Chip

Many years ago a plumber in New Orleans, came out from under a house with a wrench, and was killed by police before he knew what was going on.


29 posted on 01/05/2014 10:04:52 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: bobby.223; All

““I would hesitate to condemn our men” you say? Oh but it is just fine for to you condemn the grieving family with this beauty: “It is more likely the family invented this statement in order to set the stage for suing”. You jackboot cop-suckers are real pieces of work.”


I said that was the “most likely” situation, and that’s just a fact. Believe it or not, people are liars. I’ve seen it, I’ve heard it, and I’ve known it. People lie, make up stories, exaggerate claims, even when the whole incident is caught on camera. ‘This cop kicked the **** out of me!”, and then the dash cam has them throwing punches and initiating the fight. And I would expect this to be a lie than thinking that a cop would, without hesitation, shoot someone on the basis of “saving time,’ when there are lawyers and civil rights attorneys and internal investigations that could land you in prison for the rest of your life. This is the kind of stuff you believe in, without question, if your life were a cartoon, or if you’re a Liberal trying to abolish the second amendment or play up alleged institutional racism in our law enforcement.


30 posted on 01/05/2014 10:04:59 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Only the police and military can be trusted with guns. They have special training.


31 posted on 01/05/2014 10:09:25 PM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Thank you! My Hub is a retired police officer, our son and son-in-law are active police officers in 2 large cities here in Texas. We have a few on this site that broad-brush when it comes to police officers. I too find it hard to believe an officer would willingly shoot a kid that’s down for no reason at all.


32 posted on 01/05/2014 10:10:49 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: bobby.223; All

By the way, the “grieving family” bit. What about Travyon’s ‘Greiving family?” They had their criminal son, this thug with photos of himself with pistols, smoking pot, and giving the finger, made into a martyr on the basis of their ‘greiving’ and their false claims to the media.

You think that doesn’t happen against Cops too? Was Zimmerman vulnerable to outright lies from even the “grieving family” because he wasn’t a cop?

C’mon now. You guys need to grow up and stop trying to try people in the media. I’m sure there are plenty of bad cops out there. But, calling cops “animals,” and other such things, based on a news story, is just outright stupid.

Go head over to DU, the whole lot of you, who sit there spitting on our law enforcement as a whole.


33 posted on 01/05/2014 10:11:08 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
People lie

New flash: cops are people.

34 posted on 01/05/2014 10:11:22 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: bobby.223
You jackboot cop-suckers are real pieces of work.

Your post did nothing for most of us that come to FR to actually try to find "the truth". A waste of time was your post.

35 posted on 01/05/2014 10:11:56 PM PST by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Yep, cops lie all the time.


36 posted on 01/05/2014 10:14:05 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

https://myspace.com/keithisbrootal/photos


37 posted on 01/05/2014 10:16:03 PM PST by kcvl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Well.. there Ya have it. When they started shooting dogs some of us figured they would not stop there.

The police are no longer there to protect or serve.

One thing in the story I don’t agree with. A screw driver is a weapon even in the hands of a 90 pound boy.

My heart goes out to the family.


38 posted on 01/05/2014 10:16:20 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

” Believe it or not, people are liars. I’ve seen it, I’ve heard it, and I’ve known it.

Your delusional you _puny _human. This is SOP for cops...


39 posted on 01/05/2014 10:17:42 PM PST by babygene ( .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: bobby.223
I'm with you. 3 on 1....? No excuse! At least 1 fat little piggy should have never squealed all the way home.
40 posted on 01/05/2014 10:19:46 PM PST by Into the Vortex
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

That old thing about “men in white coats” taking away crazy people, was it ever real, and if so, why did it stop?


41 posted on 01/05/2014 10:19:56 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“The family said police shot Vidal because he had a screwdriver in his hand. They said it was a tiny screwdriver that would not have hurt anyone. “

If he wasn’t going to hurt anyone (he was attacking his mother with the screwdriver according to the step-father)) why did they call police instead of a doctor?! Now, they are blaming the police.

The kid tried to get up and run when he heard they were going to taser him according to reports. He wasn’t just laying there, he was fighting them with a screwdriver in his hand.


42 posted on 01/05/2014 10:24:24 PM PST by kcvl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Dawgreg

“I too find it hard to believe an officer would willingly shoot a kid that’s down for no reason at all.”

Cops should be trained in conflict resolution, something BTW that comes mothers and Nuns in Catholic schools know instinctively.

If they can’t deal with conflict other than with lethal force,they don’t belong on the force. If two officers are on top of a 90 pound kid and can’t subdue him... Never mind, that’s just crazy.


43 posted on 01/05/2014 10:24:50 PM PST by babygene ( .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: SaxxonWoods
That old thing about “men in white coats” taking away crazy people, was it ever real, and if so, why did it stop?

The last bill that JFK made law was to empty the mental hospitals, it took a while for the system to change around the nation and the lawyers to enforce the law with their lawsuits, but it did come to create the homeless that you see wandering the streets talking to themselves.

44 posted on 01/05/2014 10:26:28 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Dawgreg

“Neighbors on the scene told WECT that Vidal played with their children and he never was violent. They said he had a history of depression and schizophrenia, but he was never harmful to others.”

I think I remember neighbors and friends saying the same thing about Adam Lanza and he murdered a school full of children.


45 posted on 01/05/2014 10:27:54 PM PST by kcvl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; null and void; babygene

Your little jackboots never lie!!? Your little jackboot’s rages never get on tape by their own damn cameras!!? You think they are concerned with a stretch in the can? What world do you live in? I never said that the family is right here, they could be all full of it for all I know but you, like your fellow knee jerk jackboot lickers, think they are never wrong so you just gotta jump right in and slam the grieving family with your premise. Wait until the rest of the story is heard before you condemn the family. Get lost cop-sucker.


46 posted on 01/05/2014 10:28:24 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: spetznaz
The moment that call is made all control over that situation by the caller is lost

A young adult was living with us when they accidently ate something they shouldn't have and immediately threw up. It really was one of those wacky accidents. Just to make sure, we called the hospital on-call nurse who assured us everything was fine and we all had a good laugh. Four days later, this adult called mama and told her the funny story. Mama freaked and called every agency under the sun. The cops and the health department called our house wanting to start a full blown investigation and make a home visit so I spent the whole afternoon talking them out of it. Then I let loose on stupid idiot moron mama. Did she really want to have this non-event turn into a 48 hour stay at the mental clinic and her little precious carry around a suicide attempt record forever or somehow get arrested? Sure, that'll look real good at the next college scholarship board and on every job application. And not to mention we'd be investigated, too. All over a minor split second oopsie that happened 4 days before, sigh. Some people are just too stupid.

47 posted on 01/05/2014 10:29:16 PM PST by bgill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: babygene; Dawgreg

“If they can’t deal with conflict other than with lethal force,they don’t belong on the force.”


Says the guy sitting at home, without any actual hard evidence of what happened, who just got done telling me that “lying” is basic for all police officers.

People with a pathology shouldn’t swing screwdrivers or post on internet forums.


48 posted on 01/05/2014 10:30:37 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Keith Vidal - the family has closed down his Facebook page but they missed this photo

49 posted on 01/05/2014 10:32:48 PM PST by kcvl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: bobby.223; All

“Your little jackboots never lie!!? Your little jackboot’s rages never get on tape by their own damn cameras!!?”


Calm down, a normal person might suspect that someone has an irrational hatred for police officers based on a post like this.

” I never said that the family is right here, they could be all full of it for all I know “


Then stop spamming me with your posts. Or share them on DU or on the Daily Paul where convicting police officers or George Zimmerman types in the media is actually encouraged. Here, amongst adults, we don’t emote over things we don’t actually have any hard evidence on, and we avoid irrational generalizations against Freepers in Law enforcement or their families.


50 posted on 01/05/2014 10:34:44 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-150151-200201 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson