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Greg Maddux won’t be a unanimous Hall of Famer for an incredibly stupid reason
Sports Illustrated ^
| January 7, 2014
| Cliff Corcoran
Posted on 01/07/2014 12:59:17 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
So Maddux is sacrificed in order to make a point?
That’s worth one lifted eyebrow and a bemused facial expression.
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:24:13 PM PST
by
lurk
To: SeminoleCounty
Yes, I agree about Maddox. I was just pointing out a fact about the era - the hitters weren’t the only ones juicing. Many power pitchers were involved too.
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:24:49 PM PST
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: Dr. Sivana
The credibility of baseball stats was destroyed by interleague play before that.What really destroyed MLB stats even before IL play was the DH rule.... Which I hate.
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:25:09 PM PST
by
Bullish
(America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
To: lurk
I wouldn’t say he’s sacrificed, he’s still going to the HOF, just not unanimously, which never happens anyway.
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:28:46 PM PST
by
discostu
(I don't meme well.)
To: EveningStar
Maddox was kidded about looking like the Pillsbury doughboy during his career, so PEDs are highly doubtful. I remember a rare triple he hit, he was huffing and puffing coming around second base and his teammates in the dugout were dying laughing at him because he looked like he wasn’t going to make it to third.
To: Bullish
baseball whats baseball I left watching or caring before 2003
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:30:54 PM PST
by
Baseballguy
(pharaphase (If someone does not believe in heaven or hell - they should not care where they go))
To: usconservative
Gurnick’s assertion is farther off the mark than your’s.
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:33:29 PM PST
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
("Gun horror is not a productive emotion, it's learned helplessness disguised as moral superiority.")
To: EveningStar; All
its sports illustrated so take it with a grain of salt until the real story comes out...they lie to push stories and make up their agenda- witness the story on the oklahoma state football program this fall which was suppose to be devastating except for the fact the source giving them the info was not even attending the school when the so-called infractions occurred...
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:35:13 PM PST
by
God luvs America
(63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
To: EveningStar
If Sandy Koufax wasn’t unanimous, then no pitcher should be.
To: usconservative
Sports reporters tend to be frustrated jocks who have a chip on their shoulder.
Think of the guy at the bar who was never in the service talking like he has been to the ‘Nam. That is a sports writer.
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:42:36 PM PST
by
Vermont Lt
(If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
To: montag813
Eleven sportswriters declined to vote for Babe Ruth when his name first came up. That's just absurd.
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:45:30 PM PST
by
Deo volente
(God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
To: KarlInOhio
If anything, facing a bunch of 'roided up batters makes Maddux's stats all the more impressive.I'm not accusing Maddux of using but many, many pitchers have (and still do). Steroids have a legitimate use as an anti-inflammatory. Pitchers who use steroids recover much more quickly from the stress of throwing hard in an unnatural motion.
Nothing against Greg Maddux but I don't want anybody voted into HOF unanimously. If the true legends of the game like Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb can't get voted in unanimously, then I don't want some lesser light to get that honor. I hate it when awards get cheapened. Maddux is a great but 80 years from now, he'll be remembered by only hardcore baseball fans while Babe Ruth will probably still be remembered by the typical person 160 years after his playing days.
Maddux is a great one but he's not the best pitcher of this generation, Mariano Rivera is. It is debatable if Maddux is even the best starting pitcher of this generation when Clemens and Johnson get tossed into the discussion. However, Greg Maddux is absolutely worthy of a first-ballot HOF induction without question. (BTW, first-ballot induction is another distinction which has been cheapened over the past few decades - used to be quite an honor - reserved for only the greatest of the greats.)
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:47:06 PM PST
by
CommerceComet
(No more GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
To: montag813
If
Sandy Koufax Steve Carlton wasnt unanimous, then no pitcher should be.
Fixed it :-)
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posted on
01/07/2014 1:47:07 PM PST
by
chajin
("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
To: usconservative
Cal Ripken jr wasn’t unanimous for the same reason.
Let’s face it, Greg, like Cal, will be a first ballot selection, and a few years down the road it’s only idiots like us talking about the balloting.
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posted on
01/07/2014 2:06:07 PM PST
by
dmz
To: Baseballguy
baseball whats baseball I left watching or caring before 2003You're missing some of the best baseball ever played. And I'm not talking about the overpaid Yankees, Dodgers, and such, but the scrappy teams built around teams of players who are young, strong, and love the game--exemplified by the Tampa Bay Rays, but also by the Jays, Orioles, Rangers, Pirates, and A's. When the rest of MLB catches on...
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posted on
01/07/2014 2:07:03 PM PST
by
chajin
("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
To: Baseballguy
baseball whats baseball I left watching or caring before 2003
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And yet, here you are in 2014 commenting on a baseball story. I won’t think less of you for still caring.
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posted on
01/07/2014 2:08:06 PM PST
by
dmz
To: dmz
.....and a few years down the road its only idiots like us talking about the balloting. Not me, I'm just not that big of a baseball geek. I'm lucky enough to remember who Greg Maddux is only because he used to play for the Chicago Cubs. The Cubs were FOOLS to let him go to Atlanta where he had a great career.
Hat's off to Maddux on his upcoming induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame. Well deserved IMO.
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posted on
01/07/2014 2:12:32 PM PST
by
usconservative
(When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
To: God luvs America; All
its sports illustrated so take it with a grain of salt until the real story comes out...they lie to push stories and make up their agenda- witness the story on the oklahoma state football program this fall which was suppose to be devastating except for the fact the source giving them the info was not even attending the school when the so-called infractions occurred...
- Other media sources are commenting on this.
- I included a link to MLB.com votes in the comment section of my initial post.
To: EveningStar
If anything, the PED era makes Maddux’s accomplishments more impressive. It made it tougher to pitch against guys who were roided up.
I don’t think Maddux used PED’s and he deserves to be elected to the HOF. Regarding the unanimous part, I don’t believe any player has been elected unanimously, so I don’t think its that big of deal as long as Maddox is voted into HOF. Just my two cents worth.
To: EveningStar
Maddux’s old pitching coach is on the radio in Atlanta and he talks about all the great Braves pitchers frequently. Maddux would give up a hit on a specific pitch in June to set the batter up for the playoffs in October. He was a savant with an 82 MPH fastball. Even Barry Bonds joked about swinging at pitches two feet outside and in the dirt because Maddux would baffle you.
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posted on
01/07/2014 2:22:36 PM PST
by
Pan_Yan
(Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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