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My first experience with medical care since Obamacare implementation.. (Vanity)
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Posted on 01/10/2014 6:31:12 PM PST by cableguymn

Go easy on me. I hope "chat" was a good place for a vanity.

So, The other night I woke up with a killer pain in my chest. Having prior heart troubles and dealing with high blood pressure I thought the worst.

Jetted off to the hospital with the wife (we are a 20 minute drive and figured that is where the ambulance was stationed. there was one there) and got in the door, told um chest pains and right in to a room I went. Did vitals, ekg, blood drawn and all that. Not a heart attack. Given a GI cocktail (yuck) and was told it was a full house and it'd be a while.

With the pain down from "OMG I am gonna die!" to "damn this hurts" I settled in for what I figured would be a hell of a wait. Few minutes go by and the admitting girl shows up. We give her the insurance card (nope, not on zero care ;) ) and she clicks away at her computer. Nope, can't verify it here, lets try this site.. Nope.. Hmm maybe this one..

Finely, she gets it verified. Asks about my co-pay and says it does not really matter because they would see me regardless in the ER. I said if you can take plastic, I'll pay it right now. So I did.

As she is leaving, the DR comes in. Apparently this hospitals idea of a long wait is about 10 minutes ;) Asks me a few questions about where it hurts (right where you'd give me CPR as I point to the area) and he said hmm.. pushes a bit right under my right rub cage and I about pop out of bed..

"I'll bet it's your gallbladder" he says.. Gives me something through the IV for pain. "lets see what the blood tests show". He's back 15 minutes later. He says since my blood is ok, the pain is down to the point where it's under control (feels like a bee sting) that i should make an appointment with my PC doctor asap. Total time spent in a "packed" er was about 1.25 hours.

On the way out we stop at the admitting desk and ask if they can make the appointment. I get the first appointment that morning. 7 am.

Go home, take a little nap..

long story short. By 10 AM after a ultrasound, I am told the gallbladder has to go. Looks like I go under the knife first part of next week.

So far, so good, there was a TON of "new" paperwork to fill out, much of it to do with HIPPA (and likely the waving there of for the Zero admin) but my experience at the hospital was top notch. I figured it would be but with a hell of a paperwork problem due to my insurance company changing my plan completely, and the fact that the ink was still wet on my new card.

I think this was a great time to get my gallbladder out, sadly, in 2-5 years, I'd probably die waiting my turn in line.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; obamacareanecdote; obamacareanecdotes; zerocare
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1 posted on 01/10/2014 6:31:12 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

Great testimonial to what will surely be a bygone era in a generation. So glad to hear you’re ok, cableguymn. Hope the gall bladder removal and recoup goes well.


2 posted on 01/10/2014 6:35:18 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: cableguymn

I spent EIGHTEEN HOURS at the VA Medical Center emergency room last year and still hadn’t seen a doctor when I finally gave up and left. But it didn’t “cost” me anything. so there’s that...


3 posted on 01/10/2014 6:36:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: cableguymn

Good luck with your gall bladder surgery. Had same @ 2-3 years ago.

I hope FReepers all file reports of their experiences post-Obamacare. So far I’ve only seen my eye doc and no problems, just $5 higher co-pay.


5 posted on 01/10/2014 6:37:12 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: cableguymn
"Apparently this hospitals idea of a long wait is about 10 minutes ;)"

I'm down with that. Just wait until we get Socialized Single payer Health Care and check the wait times.

6 posted on 01/10/2014 6:37:55 PM PST by Paladin2
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publik skools...

Thank you word police for checking in ;)


7 posted on 01/10/2014 6:38:01 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn

First of all: are you still alive?


8 posted on 01/10/2014 6:38:32 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: EDINVA

I wish mine was only 5 bucks. It doubled. I guess my wallet wished this had happened a few weeks ago.

200 bucks is what I paid.


9 posted on 01/10/2014 6:39:09 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn

That was bad taste on my part...I failed to read the rest of the article. Wishing you a long and happy life.


10 posted on 01/10/2014 6:39:32 PM PST by TomServo
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To: nickcarraway

Yes. I am. Like I said. the medical care was top notch.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 6:39:41 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: TomServo

was that yours that got deleted? (#4)

ya, it was poor taste, but I have thick skin and I did fire a joke back at ya ;)


12 posted on 01/10/2014 6:40:40 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn

I guess waving your credit card around might have helped.


13 posted on 01/10/2014 6:41:08 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: cableguymn

My sweetie’s had a couple of emergencies this past year - chest pain (no problems detected) & then kidney stones. Also had surgery to remove plaque from a carotid artery. We have a pretty good hospital here & everything went well. No knowing what will happen in the future, though.

I hope your surgery goes well!


14 posted on 01/10/2014 6:41:46 PM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: cableguymn

lol - I had it coming....

At least we can still be FRiends.


15 posted on 01/10/2014 6:42:17 PM PST by TomServo
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To: cableguymn
As an old guy (appendicitis is strongly, negatively correlated with age), it took me 24 hrs to convince the Medicos that my appendix had to go.

After hanging out in the ER waiting room for ~4 hr, I went home, slept and went back in the morning. After hanging out most of that day's daytime, a CT scan said: Yep.

The surgery crew asked me why I waited so long....

16 posted on 01/10/2014 6:42:59 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: cableguymn

What state/city?

With the coming decline in medical care, people ought to start thinking about moving to less populated cities with populations of 15-20,000 if they want a fighting chance.


17 posted on 01/10/2014 6:44:27 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: cableguymn

We have been having to deal with healthcare a lot this year. My husband had a kidney stone on New Year’s day. He spent New Year’s day in Urgent care, had surgery last Friday, and then his blood pressure spiked up yesterday and had to go to the emergency room.

Really, not noticing any changes, except that we will have a huge bill!

He’s been seen quickly and been well taken care of. We did like the Urgent Care better than the emergency room.


18 posted on 01/10/2014 6:44:30 PM PST by luckystarmom
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So?


19 posted on 01/10/2014 6:44:32 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Paladin2

That was more the experience I was expecting.


20 posted on 01/10/2014 6:44:51 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn
You discovered an excellent ER. The rhetoric is that you should avoid the ER, but frankly I believe this to be a mistake, and that hospitals should massively enlarge their ERs if at all feasible.

On the other hand, there is an angry and vindictive part of me that sees all the abuse that hospitals and ERs receive…and I'd like to see those hospitals threaten to shut down their ERs entirely. They could, you know. You'd be surprised. There is no law that says a hospital has to have an ER.

Particularly for lawyers. They shouldn't be allowed to go to ERs or hospitals, at all.

21 posted on 01/10/2014 6:45:01 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Rome2000

If I tell you, you all will move here ;)

Fairview Hospitals. Wyoming MN.


22 posted on 01/10/2014 6:45:54 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn
Similar story here. I went into the ER over Christmas break with unbelievable head pain when I had the WORST flu ever. (Thought maybe I had meningitis)

Within 90 minutes I had a CT scan, complete bloodwork and relief from the head pain.

No meningitis, btw just an insanely bad headache that lasted days.

Incidentally, my hubby had his gall bladder out in August. Seemed incredibly painful ( the attack). Good luck to you!

23 posted on 01/10/2014 6:46:54 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: luckystarmom

Thankfully, our hospital is a one stop shop. Clinic, Urgent Care and Emergency all in one building.


24 posted on 01/10/2014 6:47:05 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn

My story (well, my hubby’s story):

On Monday, he called me at work and said he didn’t feel well and needed to go to the hospital. He has A-Fib. His heart was racing like crazy and he was dizzy and weak. I rushed him to the ER. He was taken in immediately and put on an IV drip to try to get the heart rate down. They did not ask for insurance info until he was settled and hooked up. He presented insurance cards (not O-care here either). After a relatively short time in the ER, he was transferred upstairs to a room where they kept him under observation overnight until he heartbeat was normal. They kept him two more days to get him acclimated to a medication that would control the A-Fib, and was released Thursday. The nurses were wonderful, so were the doctors - and everybody else there who we had contact with.

I wonder how long before this will be a thing of the past?


25 posted on 01/10/2014 6:47:30 PM PST by sneakers ( Quinn: "Liberty is the solution to the human condition.")
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To: Mamzelle

ER’s are closing in California if I am not mistaken.

As long as the law says you have to treat everyone that makes it to the door. ER’s will close if it costs the hospital to much.


26 posted on 01/10/2014 6:48:52 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn
If understand your post you had private insurance, perhaps through an employer, not a policy obtained through the Obamacare website. Those who managed to get a "qualifying" policy through the Obamacare website may not have such a good experience and may find they have no coverage, can't be treated at the hospital of their choice etc.

I also had chest pain last February that similarly caused me to go to the hospital ER. My private health care plan through my wife's employer paid almost 90% of the nearly $12,000 bill which included an overnight hospital stay and stress test in addition to my ER visit.

27 posted on 01/10/2014 6:48:55 PM PST by The Great RJ
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Ahh!!

Good for you, and good luck.

Looks like the population is about 8,000.

The people in the big cities are doomed.

28 posted on 01/10/2014 6:49:10 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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Correct, we are insured through U-Care.


29 posted on 01/10/2014 6:51:05 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Rome2000

yes, its thinly populated around here, but if you google around a bit, it’s not easy to find another ER (I live west of the hospital). I think the next closest one to me is Cambridge followed by Coon Rapids but that one is metro and known for “sit down and Helen Waite will see you..”

We are not far from the metro area. I bet by the time I am dead this area will be metro.


30 posted on 01/10/2014 6:54:31 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn

I have a friend in Georgia who just had surgery this week..

her operation was planned since last month..

she thought everything would be covered..

but when she got to the hospital she was told she could not have one of the necessary procedures because she was “too old” shes in her late 60s...not because it was dangerous due to her age but because of her age..

then she didn’t stay in hospital as long as she was suppose too..and is home already today...

and when she was getting her prescription filled when she left, she found out that she would now have too paid $200+ for one medicine that was previously free or not costly..a medicine she will need for the next few months as she recovers..

Since she had insurance and was already getting medical treatment for cancer before ObamaCare she did get a lot paid for but not what she should have..

My friend is a Conservative and when I talked to her on the phone today she said “ObamaCare”

When we had discussed last month about whether her insurance would still cover in January what she knew it to cover in Dec 2013..she was confident that it would..

this is a patriotic American lady who has worked her whole adult life and paid taxes and didn’t vote for Obama...

These Americans are the ones I am sad for ..the ones caught in this ghastly trap through no fault of their own..

the Obama voters called this down on themselves and unfortunately also my friend...

If my friend had that operation just last week it would have been different for her...


31 posted on 01/10/2014 6:59:41 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: cableguymn

Google “gall bladder flush”. Follow the instructions. You can get rid of gallstones without losing your gall bladder. PM me if you need additional info.


32 posted on 01/10/2014 7:01:24 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: cableguymn

Gall bladder is pretty easy stuff these days with the golf ball retriever.

When I had mine yanked in ‘79, it was a bit more cutting.

Good luck, I never spent even 10 seconds missing mine after they took it out.


33 posted on 01/10/2014 7:05:50 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was in our local Army Hospital yesterday picking up a prescription for my husband. I stopped and ssked to schedule an appointment for the optomotrist. She made an appointment for me for this morning. Appointment was right on time, very thorough exam, new glasses on order.
Sorry about the spelling. My eyes are still dilated.


34 posted on 01/10/2014 7:23:00 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: ArmyTeach

The military system and the veterans affairs system aren’t the same, in any way, shape or form.


35 posted on 01/10/2014 7:30:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: ArmyTeach

I took my elderly mother to see an internist last week — first appointment with him in over a year. I was really surprised she wasn’t asked to fill out any of the new paperwork or even asked the scripted questions. Just the normal diagnosis and prescription. In short, nothing changed from last time. They will bill the co-payment.


36 posted on 01/10/2014 7:34:09 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: cableguymn

Whenever I make a co-pay I get a refund check back for that amount in a month. I have no idea why, but I don’t want to ask.


37 posted on 01/10/2014 7:35:36 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Is your friend in Georgia on Medicare as would often be the case for a person in her late 60s? Curious whether she has a Medicare Advantage Plan or Medigap Plan, and Part D. Hard to make much sense of the anecdote without that info. Be interesting to know the denied procedure as well but I realize that is HIPAA material.


38 posted on 01/10/2014 7:45:48 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Kirkwood

Do you have a secondary insurance policy?


39 posted on 01/10/2014 7:46:17 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
If my friend had that operation just last week it would have been different for her...

Yes indeed: what a difference a week makes. I went through triple bypass surgery on Dec. 23rd, 2013.

40 posted on 01/10/2014 7:46:40 PM PST by Studebaker Hawk (These geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassy)
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To: cableguymn

First and foremost: Never. Ever. Drive to the hospital if you are having chest pains.

The ambulance will get there faster and if you crash on the way, your wife would not be able to drive and help you at the same time.

My daughter is a paramedic who has picked up more bodies on the side of the road for exactly this reason.


41 posted on 01/10/2014 7:47:05 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

First not paid for google result..

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/flushes.html

ummmm.... not exactly sold on your idea. But you have a few days to try and convince me ;) .


42 posted on 01/10/2014 7:47:31 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Perhaps.. We’ll never know if they would have been faster or not.

Pretty sure if the ambulance wrecked along the way, we would have been worse off since it was likely the only one in the area.


43 posted on 01/10/2014 7:51:10 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm a veteran also....but there's no way I'd ever go the "VA Hospital" route - you need to look a bit beyond that 'benefit'..........Basic School 101.

You really shoulda learned this sh*t in boot camp.

44 posted on 01/10/2014 7:56:49 PM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: sneakers

I think the ones that will see problems will be those on obamacare.


45 posted on 01/10/2014 7:57:44 PM PST by ~Pandora
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To: cableguymn

I don’t get it...
Gall bladder is on your right under the rib cage so you get pain there. I know because I get it from time to time.
There are alternatives to taking out the gall bladder but to each his own.


46 posted on 01/10/2014 7:59:28 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Vermont Lt
First and foremost: Never. Ever. Drive to the hospital if you are having chest pains. The ambulance will get there faster

Some folks don't have the $1500 bucks for the 15 mile ride.

47 posted on 01/10/2014 7:59:30 PM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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Nope. Just the one.


48 posted on 01/10/2014 8:05:17 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: cableguymn

American hospitals and docs are the best and Ocare is going to ruin them.

As an aside I hope you are being done with a laproscope. It is quick and easy and the recovery time is hours not weeks


49 posted on 01/10/2014 8:08:25 PM PST by Nifster
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To: ErnBatavia

It’s what I have...that or using the ER like an illegal.


50 posted on 01/10/2014 8:09:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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