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NY Town spends $2,984 per deer in sterilization program
Legal Insurrection ^ | 1-13-2014 | William A. Jacobson

Posted on 01/13/2014 5:20:39 PM PST by servo1969

We have written before about the deer sterilization program in Cayuga Heights, which borders the Cornell campus (most people think of it as Ithaca, but it’s actually a separate municipality).

Because Reproductive Health Care Is A Cervine Right:

I have written before about the moral angst sweeping the upscale Village of Cayuga Heights, bordering the Cornell campus and home to a large number of professors and staff, over how to control the out-of-control deer population.

After years of debate, which tore the community apart, Cayuga Heights has come up with a solution:

"The board of trustees passed a resolution Monday night to begin implementation of the phased options approach to deer management. The village will begin with the surgical sterilization of 20-60 does within a two-year period, followed by the culling of the remainder of the herd."

The cost per sterilization? Don’t ask:

"The first phase of sterilization is estimated to take two years at an average cost of $1,200 per doe, according to the statement."

If they do for our health care system what they’ve done for the deer of Cayuga Heights, we’re sunk.

How did it work out?

The Ithaca Journal reports, Cayuga Heights spends $35K to sterilize 12 does:

The latest round of village deer sterilizations removed ovaries from 12 deer in December and cost taxpayers $35,808.

Does were shot with tranquilizer darts and taken to a temporary surgical facility, according to a report by White Buffalo Inc. The company conducted the sterilizations and reported that no deer died during capture, surgery or release….

Costs for this winter’s doe sterilization were well above early estimates, set at $1,000 per animal. The cost for the December sterilizations was $2,984 per deer.

“The cost per deer rises when you’re trying to pick the last few out,” Cayuga Heights Mayor Kate Supron said. A high percentage of sterilized does is crucial for deer population control, she added.

During December 2012, the village spent $148,315 to remove ovaries from 137 female deer, an average of $1,082.

For the 2013 fiscal year, Cayuga Heights spent $8,294 in legal consulting fees on deer population control, and $21,277 for a Cornell University study on the number of deer in the village.

So will the plan even work? No, under current estimates it still will leave the deer populiation 4-5 times the environmentally healthy level, as the Journal further reports:

Paul Curtis, a wildlife specialist in Cornell’s Department of Natural Resources, said the population is well above what’s healthy for the environment. Curtis recommended that suburban communities, such as Cayuga Heights, have deer population densities below 15 to 20 deer per square mile.

Supron said a 10 percent to 15 percent drop in the village’s deer herd is expected. Most village deer are no longer breeding, and others are being killed by cars or natural causes.

“That would still leave us with over 100 deer per square mile,” Supron said.

Welcome to my world.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Food; Hobbies; Local News; Outdoors; Sports
KEYWORDS: banglist; cayuga; cornell; deer; ithaca; sterilization; waste
The comments under the story make for good reading.

(Andrew Branca joins in on the comments under the story. Andrew is a lawyer who helped LI cover the Zimmerman trial.

Bio- "Andrew F. Branca is in his third decade of practicing law in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. He began his competitive shooting activities as a youth in smallbore rifle, and today is a Life Member of the National Rifle Association (NRA) and a multi-classification Master-class competitor in the International Defensive Pistol Association (IDPA). Andrew has for many years been an NRA-certified firearms instructor in pistol, rifle, and personal protection, and has previously served as an Adjunct Instructor on the Law of Self Defense at the SigSauer Academy in Epping, NH. He holds, or has held, concealed carry permits for Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Maine, Pennsylvania, Florida, Utah, Virginia, and other states.")

1 posted on 01/13/2014 5:20:39 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Pretty sad how far the namesake of the Ithica Deerslayer has fallen.


2 posted on 01/13/2014 5:22:33 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: servo1969

George Washington is doing a facepalm in heaven.


3 posted on 01/13/2014 5:25:53 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: servo1969

Its NY. What more is there to say?


4 posted on 01/13/2014 5:26:41 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: servo1969
the lives of their children mean less to them than rats with antlers do...

we have the technology

5 posted on 01/13/2014 5:27:15 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
more to the point, it's the City of Evil mindset...
6 posted on 01/13/2014 5:28:12 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: servo1969

So the remaining unsterilized deer will limit their breeding habits because they saw what happened to the others? Is Cayuga Heights an island where once they get these deer down to the correct numbers, no other deer can come into the area? It would be kinda pointless if a neighbor deer can just walk into the place.


7 posted on 01/13/2014 5:28:18 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: servo1969
We have other ways of dealing with it in these parts.


8 posted on 01/13/2014 5:29:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: servo1969
“That would still leave us with over 100 deer per square mile,” Supron said.

Are you kidding me?!!

Do they have any plant life left at all?

9 posted on 01/13/2014 5:32:09 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: servo1969

“100 deer per square mile”

Don’t they officially qualify as a plague at that point?
They’re basically just giant forest rats by then, aren’t they?


10 posted on 01/13/2014 5:35:29 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

bullets are still cheaper


11 posted on 01/13/2014 5:39:12 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: servo1969

This is very cheap when you consider the steps involved with sterilizing a deer:

1. Catch a deer
2. Confirm that the deer is a doe
3. Inform the deer of her reproductive rights IAW Roe v. Wade
4. Enroll the deer in the ACA (Obamacare)
5. Schedule a procedure at the nearest Planned Parenthood facility
6. Insert tracking chip into deer to permit follow-on visits
7. Release the deer into a federally approved wildlife management area

Steps 3-7 are pretty easy. Hiring someone to do Steps 1 and 2 with a live deer costs real money.


12 posted on 01/13/2014 5:39:55 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Flycatcher

Yes, lots of vegetables we call leftists


13 posted on 01/13/2014 5:40:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: servo1969

For about 4 bucks I can “sterilize” four bucks, and you need not worry about the rest of the dough......


14 posted on 01/13/2014 5:42:00 PM PST by G Larry
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To: servo1969

just how hard is it to catch a deer and cut him a bit in the nether regions ???


15 posted on 01/13/2014 5:42:09 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Chode

Can’t use a gun within 500 ft of a dwelling, but you can use a bow, and even a crossbow.

The town should contract with a local hunting club and do a takedown.


16 posted on 01/13/2014 5:42:32 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: cripplecreek

You hang ‘em instead of shootin’ ‘em??

how cruel!


17 posted on 01/13/2014 5:43:40 PM PST by G Larry
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To: centurion316

Don’t you mean....

Doe v. Wade

???


18 posted on 01/13/2014 5:44:55 PM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry

Can’t you see, we teach em to dance.

We call em The Buckettes.


19 posted on 01/13/2014 5:45:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Ouderkirk
already voted down by the town board...

p.s. i only posted it the pic as it's an Ithaca M37

20 posted on 01/13/2014 5:47:00 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Possible honourary mention for City of Evil ping.


21 posted on 01/13/2014 5:50:01 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: servo1969

There are too many people there to reintroduce wolves, so this is what they’ve come up with. The Fish and Game department in Montana is going around the state to ask the question “Where have all the deer gone?” The answer is simple. They’ve all been turned into wolf crap.
A government hearing.......

“Yes, this committee understands that hunting is more humane to control the deer population than starvation and disease. However, there are no deer left. So explain to us again why you need rifles and why they shouldn’t be confiscated?”


22 posted on 01/13/2014 5:51:35 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: G Larry

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of abortion.

Doe v. Wade is not yet decided, still winding its way through the courts. Last I heard it was still hung up in Judge Roy Bean’s court of law West of the Pecos.


23 posted on 01/13/2014 5:54:13 PM PST by centurion316
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To: servo1969

Other deer will move into the vacuum.


24 posted on 01/13/2014 6:00:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: servo1969

25 posted on 01/13/2014 6:01:59 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: centurion316

Step one is not that hard. Get a NYC resident to sit in the bushes and make vegetation sounds that will lure hungry deer near. Once the deer is near, the person in the bush merely jumps out of hiding and places a bag over the deer’s head. Once blinded the deer will be harmless and the person can proceed to the rear of the deer and commence step 2.


26 posted on 01/13/2014 6:12:43 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (It's difficult to differentiate between a hog calling contest and a Senate rollcall.)
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To: servo1969
In a populated area the solution is this...
plus this

Tasty solution.

27 posted on 01/13/2014 6:36:30 PM PST by Ditto
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To: GeronL

Yes, my thought exactly, a decent .308 cartridge can be had for under a dollar.


28 posted on 01/13/2014 6:49:44 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: servo1969

The more enlightened city fathers in my city simply allowed bow hunting of deer in the city limits with special licenses. Problem solved at far less cost than in New York.


29 posted on 01/13/2014 6:53:53 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: servo1969

Because Reproductive Health Care Is A Cervine Right

____________________________

Then why are they destroying the *right* of the deer to reproduce?

(...liberals have absolutely NO common sense....)


30 posted on 01/13/2014 7:13:50 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Ouderkirk

I know people who hunt with spears. Heck, I met one guy once who got his deer by lassoing it. There are ways.


31 posted on 01/13/2014 7:15:50 PM PST by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Flycatcher

Your question is a good one. Other than grass, and certain types of trees, the deer eat everything. I am about an hour outside of Ithaca and we have the same problem here, MASSIVE numbers of deer. Every day herds of them wander around my yard, crapping everywhere - and I am very close on to a major roadway and rather busy business area. The local nature nuts are very active and whenever the sensible locals try to have something done - we get drowned out.

So, now we all put big nets up. Have to put streamers on the fencing because the dear will jump straight through. Our yards look like hell, but if we want anything to grow we have to fence it or net it off.

I figure once enough of their kids get lyme disease they will get past the desire of protecting bambi. The tick problem has gotten bad bad BAD.


32 posted on 01/13/2014 7:16:09 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest
Wow. I had no idea it was that bad out there. I'm a Westerner, and animal overpopulation is easily solved here (in exactly the way you think). But, of course, Eastern libs don't think the same way as Western pioneers. You almost have two enemies to contend with: the deer and the libs. Too bad you can't erect a fence to keep the libs out. If only...!

My problem out in the desert is rabbits. They like to eat anything I plant, so I have to erect small enclosures to keep them out. I'm a big fan of coyotes though. They are everyday visitors on my desert acreage, and occasionally I see one pass by with a rabbit in its mouth. Nice to see Nature at work...

33 posted on 01/13/2014 7:27:47 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: servo1969

34 posted on 01/13/2014 8:11:02 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Ladysforest

What you need is a 25 cal air gun, with night vision optics. Rifle makes minimal sound, the round is subsonic, and you shoot them at night as no one will hear or see you. A head shot will kill it, but be prepared to dress the deer at night. Alternatively, a belly shot will give the deer a case of peritonitis, and it will likely run off and die elsewhere.


35 posted on 01/13/2014 8:16:00 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Ditto; et al

Anyone proposed wolves? Be a twofer........


36 posted on 01/13/2014 9:44:55 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Flycatcher
“That would still leave us with over 100 deer per square mile,” Supron said.

Are you kidding me?!!

Do they have any plant life left at all?

I was wondering if it was ok to shoot deer there in self defense. How many folks get trampled a year? You should be able to hunt deer with a spear in those parts. (kidding by exaggeration of course)

37 posted on 01/14/2014 9:14:27 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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To: Flycatcher

I’d rather have the deer than the libs - at least the deer are NORMAL.

We have coy-dogs too. Not too many right in the village, but step 1/4 mile out and there they are. Bob cats too. Lots of bear.

In our village back yards are the deer, turkey, fox, raccoon, opossum. Occasionally a bear does wander thru here - we have a stream on the edge of the property here which they all use.

A bunch of NYers did not buy deer permit this year to protest Cuomo’s gun law, the SAFE Act. So I heard an advertisement a few months ago that there were still a ton of “doe” permits to be had. Usually those go very quickly. My husband sat this year out.


38 posted on 01/14/2014 12:48:34 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: servo1969
Welcome to my world.

The only solution to your problem is the total elimination of those deer.......why didn't you have the guts to say it?

39 posted on 01/14/2014 12:56:00 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: GeronL
bullets are still cheaper

Hunting permits will do nothing to reduce the numbers of these deer. In fact, the issuing of such would be in strict violation of firearms safety. These vermin are nothing but neighborhood deer and any attempt to shoot them in their environment will put all the homeowners in that location at extreme risk.

As for any anticipated response of using bow hunters, unless you can guarantee a one shot and drop hunt, which you can’t, nobody in that area is going to want you tracking a wounded deer across their front or back yard lawns………I know I wouldn’t and I’m a hunter.

The only true and safe solution to the problem is rather then tranking and sterilizing the deer, just trank them and get them the hell out of the area……..

40 posted on 01/14/2014 1:22:41 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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