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Parents criticized online for bringing crying baby to restaurant
upi ^ | Jan. 14, 2014

Posted on 01/15/2014 4:05:37 AM PST by JoeProBono

CHICAGO, A couple dining at an upscale Chicago restaurant were sharply criticized online when their infant spent the evening crying at the eatery.

Chef Grant Achatz of the Alinea restaurant took to Twitter with a question about crying baby etiquette after the infant cried though the dinner service Saturday night at the three-star restaurant, where meals can cost hundreds of dollars, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Tuesday.

"Tbl brings 8mo.Old. It cries. Diners mad. Tell ppl no kids? Subject diners 2crying? Ppl take infants 2 plays? Concerts? Hate saying no, but ...," Achatz tweeted.

The tweet sparked sharp criticism online for the parents, who many said should have known better than to bring an infant to an upscale restaurant.

"IT IS ABSURD TO BRING YOUR BABY TO ALINEA," tweeted Michael Nagrant, who reviews restaurants for RedEye. "You do not take a baby to Alinea. Unless the babysitter canceled last minute and Alinea would not refund your ticket. No other debate."

The restaurant takes reservations by allowing customers to purchase tickets, sometimes months in advance. The tickets are not refundable.

Achatz posted a picture to Twitter Sunday featuring two fish heads on a plate.

"Definitely not baby food," he tweeted.

The furor over the incident led to the creation of a Twitter parody account, @AlineaBaby, which bears a user bio saying, "I'm a baby who likes fine food, fine drinks, and crying."


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1 posted on 01/15/2014 4:05:37 AM PST by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

They should have brought their cat, instead.

But seriously, I’m on the side of all the people who stayed at home that night and ate a sensible meal.


2 posted on 01/15/2014 4:11:20 AM PST by Tax-chick (Tell the mad chameleon he's not welcome anymore.)
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To: JoeProBono

They were OBVIOUSLY a yuppie family.


3 posted on 01/15/2014 4:11:30 AM PST by AlexW
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To: JoeProBono
I absolutely detest people who bring their either unsocialized, sick, or too young children to restaurants, air flights, or any sort of gathering. What makes them think they are entitled to inflict their spawn on others is a mystery.

My little dog is better socialized than some children are I have seen. At least he sits when told to and does not bark at everything he sees.

4 posted on 01/15/2014 4:12:20 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: JoeProBono

A Chicago restaurant full of Chicago democrats.

How could they tell which baby was crying?


5 posted on 01/15/2014 4:13:10 AM PST by kidd
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To: JoeProBono

Back before people who were brought up in an entitlement mentality....these people would be considerate and take their crying infant to the car...bathroom or if it became beyond their control....they would be considerate and LEAVE...

So other paying customers could enjoy their meal....

I have in the past and would gladly do it again to politely ask people to take their crying, unruly, loud children to their car....if they cannot control them...

I truly don’t care how pissed they get...


6 posted on 01/15/2014 4:21:36 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JoeProBono

A couple of years ago, a local restaurant caused a major flap when it banned children under 6. The usual liberals opposed the ban, but the vast majority of people supported it. In fact, after the ban was instituted, the restaurant experienced a major increase in customers.

I love children, but no one wants to eat with a crying baby or an unruly toddler running amok. Either leave the child with a babysitter or don’t go out.


7 posted on 01/15/2014 4:21:42 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Tax-chick

You’re a good mom, mom.


8 posted on 01/15/2014 4:22:40 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono
The restaurant takes reservations by allowing customers to purchase tickets, sometimes months in advance. The tickets are not refundable.

This maybe the key to the puzzle.

If the babysitter cancelled and the couple axed the rest. for a rain-check and they were turned down, then the couple did the only thing they could.

Could be the fault of the business, don't know.

9 posted on 01/15/2014 4:37:51 AM PST by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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To: JoeProBono

Doing my best!


10 posted on 01/15/2014 4:39:02 AM PST by Tax-chick (Tell the mad chameleon he's not welcome anymore.)
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To: USS Alaska

I wonder if they could have scalped the tickets at the door.


11 posted on 01/15/2014 4:40:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (Tell the mad chameleon he's not welcome anymore.)
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To: USS Alaska

12 posted on 01/15/2014 4:41:36 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: kidd

Lol!!!


13 posted on 01/15/2014 4:42:35 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AlexW

My wife an I raised three daughters, which included twins, and on th rare times when we were able to go out to eat our children were with family members until they were at an age to understand what it meant to be respectful to others.

Babies are not able to understand this, but you would expect that their parents would unless they really could care less and only want what they want when they want it and if means annoying others that’s not their problem.

If these parent can afford this expensive diner they they can afford to hire a baby sitter.


14 posted on 01/15/2014 4:45:08 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: JoeProBono

For standard fare there are many cases for which young children, properly socialized, are expected and welcome.

Otoh for places where people are paying for “the experience” as much as the food itself, this is completely unacceptable if the parents are not making an attempt to consider other patrons.

I have kids, too. We were very careful about bringing them out at first.


15 posted on 01/15/2014 4:45:25 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
I agree with you. When we ate out, which was rare due to my parent income, all seven of us children knew what was expected of us. I recall a few times when people dining near us came over and complimented my parents for our conduct during the meal.
16 posted on 01/15/2014 4:50:23 AM PST by mware
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To: Caipirabob

17 posted on 01/15/2014 4:50:37 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Popman
I learned the joy of paying a babysitter two bucks to go shopping and/or go out to eat. Worth every penny and I hope I was helping the babysitter out, too.

Of course, babysitting wasn't highway robbery Waaaaaay back then.

18 posted on 01/15/2014 4:52:16 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: JoeProBono

If the parents were being inconsiderate, I wonder why management didn’t simply show them the door.


19 posted on 01/15/2014 4:52:59 AM PST by Nickname
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To: JoeProBono

Lol...apparently some child got the message...


20 posted on 01/15/2014 4:56:01 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: JoeProBono

“There is nothing to be ashamed of in enjoying your food: there would be everything to be ashamed of if half the world made food the main interest of their lives and spent their time looking at pictures of food and dribbling and smacking their lips.”

C.S. Lewis

Maybe there’s a market for high end dining for people who want to bring their kids and it would only allow families. Maybe even have a small play room for parents to take cranky children or even a sitter type person?


21 posted on 01/15/2014 4:59:47 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: chiefqc

I grew up with twin brothers, seven years older. I do not recall our parents ever taking us out in the evening. I can not speak for my brothers, but I know I always had a sitter when my parents went out. Yuppies are a new breed of spoiled pseudo elitist brats. They think that the world spins around them.


22 posted on 01/15/2014 5:00:03 AM PST by AlexW
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To: JoeProBono

“I” am entitled to a perfect life!


23 posted on 01/15/2014 5:03:51 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: JoeProBono
We always brought our kids with us. If they cried when they were babies, we took them out. Once they could talk I explained to them that they had to be quiet and well behaved or they'd get a spanking. Then when they did get out of control, I'd take him outside, explained that I loved him or but these are the consequences to your actions, ministered discipline, and gave a big hug again affirming love. I only had to do this once with each child. People frequently commented how pleasant our children were.

That said, people who refuse to discipline their kids not only influct their unruliness on society, but actually hate them. Look it up in Proverbs. Proverbs 13:24 (KJV) He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (promptly, diligently). Proverbs 19:18 (KJV) Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.

24 posted on 01/15/2014 5:04:00 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Jimmy Valentine
I absolutely detest people who bring their either unsocialized,

A number of years ago while on a ski trip to Lake Tahoe with a number of friends, we were having dinner in a restaurant at the top of a casino there.

At an extended table next to ours sat 3 couples with about 4 kids. Believe it or not, these kids were actually running around the restaurant, around the tables chasing each other. It didn't take long for me to stand up and shout at them "you kids get your asses over to your table, sit down and shut up!"

I then glared at the parents and you should have seen the look on their faces. As soon as the kids ran back to their table, the parents got up and left with them.......not a word was said by them.

Never have I witnessed the uncontrolled behavior of kids such as them before........And the parents were allowing it to happen.

25 posted on 01/15/2014 5:07:56 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: JoeProBono

My daughter lives in Australia, Canberra. While there is no posted policy restaurants make it difficult to accommodate children. There are no high chairs or booster seats and no kid’s menu. Evening dining is expected to be for ADULTS only.


26 posted on 01/15/2014 5:11:37 AM PST by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: JoeProBono

Considerate, sane people don’t bring infants or toddlers to upscale restaurants.


27 posted on 01/15/2014 5:18:29 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: USS Alaska
If the babysitter cancelled and the couple axed the rest. for a rain-check and they were turned down, then the couple did the only thing they could.

The only thing they could? I thinking you are missing another option there, i.e. not making there problem everyone else's problem.

28 posted on 01/15/2014 5:20:11 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: JoeProBono
"IT IS ABSURD TO BRING YOUR BABY TO ALINEA," tweeted Michael Nagrant, who reviews restaurants for RedEye.

ROFLMAO!! Reviews restaurants for Redeye? Do you all know what Redeye is? It's the FREE version of the failed/failing Chicago Sun Times. This guy may get read by all of about 100 people in the entire city.

Restaurant critic? I think not!

29 posted on 01/15/2014 5:23:17 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Jimmy Valentine

I understand your frustration with badly behaving children, but the use of the word spawn to refer to children makes you sound like a self-centered, godless liberal. Let me guess, you’re also for abortion?


30 posted on 01/15/2014 5:23:20 AM PST by mongrel
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To: kidd
I absolutely detest people who bring their either unsocialized, sick, or too young children to restaurants, air flights, or any sort of gathering.

Right. Because children should neither be seen or heard.

Glad you were born a fully functioning adult rather than a child yourself are ya?

31 posted on 01/15/2014 5:24:55 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: JoeProBono

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKDtUzRIG6I


32 posted on 01/15/2014 5:25:16 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Tax-chick

I really don’t like eating in restaurants.

Once when I was on vacation at Estes Park with kids we walked up to what looked like a nice restaurant and they wouldn’t even let us in. No kids.

I come from a Catholic family. We love babies and we are not flummoxed by babies in church, babies everywhere. What is life all about?

Anyone that refers to a baby as “it” is on my S list too.

So if you want my money for your hoity toity 6 oz salmon, you will accept me with my child if I want, or I will find a better place that can actually extend the hospitality I am willing to pay for.

Raising children is draining and if we all want to go out for a nice dinner and not leave the kids behind with an axe murderer or child abuser just so the selfish people don’t have to be reminded how empty their lives of self are, we will find a place where we can do that.


33 posted on 01/15/2014 5:25:51 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: usconservative; kidd
Interesting, I was quoting and replying to #4 and somehow this got linked to #5?? That's weird.

My reply was intended for JoeProBono, not you.

34 posted on 01/15/2014 5:26:18 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Hot Tabasco

what an ass you made of yourself


35 posted on 01/15/2014 5:28:34 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
what an ass you made of yourself

I can live with it.......

36 posted on 01/15/2014 5:30:35 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: JoeProBono

“You do not take a baby to Alinea. Unless the babysitter canceled last minute and Alinea would not refund your ticket. No other debate.”

I would agree with this. Perhaps Alinea should reconsider their refund policy or make it clear—no refunds and absolutely no children allowed.

If you’ve paid good money in advance for the seats and there is nothing stating *no children*, then I can’t blame the couple for trying not to lose their investment. The crying... well, I wouldn’t have been comfortable letting my child disturb everybody.

I do think the chef is a vain jackazz for taking the matter to Twitter. What is it? Fine dining or reality TV dining? Vote them off the island or what? He could have offered them another date if they left or just stayed mum and changed his policy. No, he needed to have the whole world join him in his tantrum and frustration.

Vain little twit.


37 posted on 01/15/2014 5:33:56 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

You’re wrong in one respect. Air flights. Sometimes people have a legitimate reason to travel, and must brings children. Been there done that. Misbehaved brats is one thing, but when you’re flying with an 8 month old there really isn’t much you can do. Have some compassion.


38 posted on 01/15/2014 5:36:21 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: JoeProBono

These upscale restaurants don’t have as much common sense as the local Hometown Buffet and Golden Corral. They both have rooms for groups. When those rooms aren’t being used, they put families with loud kids in them.


39 posted on 01/15/2014 5:37:12 AM PST by grania
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To: yldstrk; wardaddy
Raising children is draining and if we all want to go out for a nice dinner and not leave the kids behind with an axe murderer or child abuser just so the selfish people don’t have to be reminded how empty their lives of self are

So the people who don't want an out of control brat or a wailing baby at the next table are the selfish ones?

40 posted on 01/15/2014 5:38:23 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: bigdaddy45

Yep, often because it bothers their ears....what do they know but to cry?


41 posted on 01/15/2014 5:41:31 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: yldstrk

I think it would be a more pleasant world if more people used common sense. Some environments are more suitable for children than others.

It seems to me that buying a very expensive non-refundable ticket for *anything* when you have a young child has a lot of potential downside.


42 posted on 01/15/2014 5:43:06 AM PST by Tax-chick (Tell the mad chameleon he's not welcome anymore.)
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To: ladyjane

The people that can’t handle that type of stress should stay home in their quiet little spotless cocoons with all the towels evenly lined up


43 posted on 01/15/2014 5:46:50 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Popman
Back when my kids were of that age I DID in fact leave several restaurants with one of them because they wouldn't settle down. I wasn't mad at my child, nor at fellow patrons. I was being considerate. Hint to the young guys - this scores a lot of points with the wife "No honey, you stay and finish your meal with xyz. Please just get mine to go, I'll be in the car with ..."

Last time I was out (couple of months ago, we can't afford to eat out much, and I like to cook) a child in the next booth was semi-rhythmically kicking the seat. We asked his parents to please have him stop. Got a dirty look from the mom and an embarrassed apology from the dad. That's right sweetie, your little precious is not perfect.

44 posted on 01/15/2014 5:54:35 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: yldstrk

Restaurants need cages out back between the grease trap ad the dumpster.

Folks with unruly brats can dump the kids in the cage, toss in a few fish sticks and call it good.


45 posted on 01/15/2014 5:59:35 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: yldstrk

” not leave the kids behind with an axe murderer or child abuser”

A bit extreme there!! It’s healthy and good for young parents to have a date night without kids once in awhile.
Lots of non axe murder baby sitters you could find.


46 posted on 01/15/2014 6:01:52 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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Somebody needs to bring this baby to Alinea...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2539703/Remote-control-devil-baby-terrifies-New-Yorkers.html


47 posted on 01/15/2014 6:06:44 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Tax-chick
Many years ago we were traveling with our first. We stopped in a town and checked in then went looking for a meal. We walked into a restaurant and were seated with our 9 month old. It was around 6 pm. Then we looked around and realized that the resuraunt was more upscale than we expected.

The baby was in relatively good shape but it WAS 6pm. We looked at our server and said, bring breadsticks for her to chew and bring us our food quickly and we will be out of here quickly. The baby lasted about half way through the meal, then started grumbling.

The host came over with a balloon and told us how crazy about babies the whole staff was and asked whether he could show her around. off she went with a balloon. and they kept here laughing at the wait station while we rushed through our meal.

We were blessed with such kind people.

48 posted on 01/15/2014 6:15:55 AM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

And here all this time I thought the “Spare the rod, spoil the child” saying was an admonition against artificial insemination. :=)


49 posted on 01/15/2014 6:16:31 AM PST by Bob
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To: USS Alaska

That might explain why they took the child to the restaurant, but it can’t explain why they allowed their child to cry throughout the meal and disturb other patrons.


50 posted on 01/15/2014 6:24:31 AM PST by Boogieman
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