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Sheriff rips apart 'Stand Your Ground' defence of ex-cop ....
The Daily Mail Online ^ | January 17, 2014 | WILL PAYNE IN LAKE O' LAKES, FLORIDA

Posted on 01/17/2014 6:15:54 AM PST by Uncle Chip

'Why didn't he just sit somewhere else?'

The Sheriff leading the investigation into the cinema shooting which happened after a row over texting has told MailOnline there is no chance of a Stand Your Ground defence, saying, ‘It was an empty movie theatre. If he was scared why didn’t he move seats?’.

Sheriff Chris Nocco has completely dismissed shooter Curtis Reeves’ claims that he gunned down Chad Oulson because he feared for his safety and said there is no way he can use Florida’s controversial self-defence law.

He is convinced the retired cop, 71, simply lost his temper after married father-of-one Oulson refused to stop texting and then threw a bag of popcorn at his killer’s face.

Reeves’ attorney Richard Escobar suggested on Wednesday that his client was not hit with popcorn and was actually attacked with another more dangerous object.

However Sheriff Nocco has completely dismissed that idea, saying nothing else was thrown and that Monday’s shooting is an open and shut case....

One of the key elements is that the theater was not packed so there was ample opportunity for anybody to move their seat if they wanted to....

Today Richard Escobar was quoted as saying something more than popcorn was thrown.

He told The Tampa Bay Times: ‘If it was popcorn, don't you think the detective would have written popcorn? It's an unknown object, dark in color. Those facts will come out.’

But Nocco hit back: ‘There is absolutely nothing to prove anything else was thrown.’....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; UFO's
KEYWORDS: banglist; curtisreeves
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The UFO defense thrown up and dismissed but will the search for a UFO continue --
1 posted on 01/17/2014 6:15:54 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Reeves, historically proven by other witnesses, had a bug in his behind about people texting.

When someone refused to bow to his will (as an ex-cop, his will is LAW) and dared to defy him, he shot the impudent upstart.


2 posted on 01/17/2014 6:18:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Reeves’ attorney Richard Escobar suggested on Wednesday that his client was not hit with popcorn and was actually attacked with another more dangerous object.

Raisinets?

3 posted on 01/17/2014 6:20:38 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: MrB

Yeah... it’s really tragic when retired cops discover they’re regular people like the rest of us peons, isn’t it?


4 posted on 01/17/2014 6:27:07 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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Raisinets?

Possibly -- but the standard movie theatre UFO of choice is MILK DUDS --

But they usually keep them locked up and you need to present an ID to get any.

5 posted on 01/17/2014 6:32:02 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Good for this sheriff, its nice to see some integrity in law enforcement.


6 posted on 01/17/2014 6:32:05 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Life in max security general population would be sufficient.


7 posted on 01/17/2014 6:32:19 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: MrB
When someone refused to bow to his will (as an ex-cop, his will is LAW) and dared to defy him, he shot the impudent upstart.

Occupational hazard.

8 posted on 01/17/2014 6:32:38 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare will be the equivalent of Mao's Great Leap Forward)
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To: MrB

His attorney is now grasping at straws with the UFO defense as he knows that the popcorn defense was going nowhere.

Even if there was a UFO it still wouldn’t help him as he appears to have been a serial theatre antagonist:

Sheriff Nocco said: ‘Other people are now saying this happened to them. We are currently trying to verify those statements, using credit card statements to make sure they were definitely at the movies when they said they were. If we can verify that then it gives us even more to go on.’


9 posted on 01/17/2014 6:33:02 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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Took me a bit to figure out what was meant by the “UFO defense” - the attorney was claiming there was some other unidentified object that was thrown at Reeves...

no.

Reeves is just a hothead ex-cop that has an authority complex.

I ran into a guy like this on vacation once at a resort in Fla. Guy was a “security guard” who thought he had authority over everyone at the complex. I registered a complaint with the management. I hope others did, too.


10 posted on 01/17/2014 6:39:16 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Uncle Chip
I have actually experienced UFO testimony under oath. A lady sued our client, claiming that her car was struck by debris from our client's property. Questioning went something like this:

What was it that hit your windshield?
I don't know.
Was it large or small?
I don't know.
What color was it?
I don't know.
Well, what was it?
I don't know - just an object.
Where was this object when you first saw it?
Flying through the air.
OK, so your car was hit by an unidentified flying object?
(no response).

We got summary judgment on that one, more importantly because her testimony placed her car about 200 yards from my client's property at the time it was hit. But the UFO argument figured heavily in the brief.

11 posted on 01/17/2014 6:42:05 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Wolfie

Far more sinister...

Milk duds..


12 posted on 01/17/2014 6:42:51 AM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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Raisinets?

when i was about 14-years old, my friend and i went to see Invasion of the Body Snatchers... we were two cute girls with our Farrah Fawcett hair and Dittos pants... well these girls sat behind us... four of them... and for some reason, toward the end of the movie, they started throwing chewed up JuJuBees in our hair... i turned around and we exchanged some words, but they would not stop... so i collected the JuJuBees, and right before the closing credits, i took the handful of JuJuBees and threw right in the leader's face... and then my friend and i booked it into another theater... we hid out in Norma Rae and saw the girls looking for us... right when they saw us, we ran for the exit door... just as we made it outside, my friend's father drove up and picked us up! so perfect! we got in the car and drove away... we never even mentioned it to her dad... aye, aye, aye...

13 posted on 01/17/2014 6:43:29 AM PST by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Uncle Chip
Good on the sheriff for sticking to his guns.

This sheriff is so positive and vocal, that I'm convinced this defendant has a "history" with his department or other law enforcement in the area. Cops don't suddenly become 'loose cannons' - it's a character trait, and everybody knows who they are.

14 posted on 01/17/2014 6:43:58 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Wolfie

A dark object the lawyer said, must have been something chocolate.

I hope this hateful crazy old f*rt has a long time in prison. Thanks to the ex cop the anti gun people are going to start marching again.

I pray that the young wife and child are able to come through this horrible event and find a decent life again.


15 posted on 01/17/2014 6:48:15 AM PST by Ditter
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To: AnAmericanMother

The Sheriff knows the value of the Stand Your Ground law, and knows it won’t be around much longer if perps like this are allowed to use it.


16 posted on 01/17/2014 6:49:04 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Uncle Chip

You can’t instigate a confrontation and then claim a stand your ground defense.


17 posted on 01/17/2014 6:49:07 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Wolfie
That's true as well.

I really believe the High Sheriffs are our last defense against tyranny.

18 posted on 01/17/2014 6:50:46 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Uncle Chip
Possibly -- but the standard movie theatre UFO of choice is MILK DUDS -- But they usually keep them locked up and you need to present an ID to get any.

Thanks for the update, I was operating under the premise that the standard UFO of choice in theaters. Always thought it was JuJuFruit.
19 posted on 01/17/2014 6:53:05 AM PST by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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The UFO defense won’t fly here either.

Among other things if it was a standard theatre UFO it would have stuck to its target — his face.

Milk Duds, JuJuBees, and Raisinettes do that.


20 posted on 01/17/2014 6:56:03 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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