Posted on 01/19/2014 5:51:53 AM PST by BigReb555
“Here I greet you in the shadow of the statue of your Commander, General Robert E. Lee. You and he left us memories which are part of the memories bequeathed to the entire nation by all the Americans who fought in the War Between the States.”
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lol If the South was such an economic powerhouse they would have won.
“If the South was such an economic powerhouse they would have won. “
The cotton tax or levy produced an enormous amount of money for the Federal govt.
The Federal govt in Lincoln’s day was no different than the govt now. Government is government.
You kind of missed the point. I think the people who saw it coming and tried to fight it 150 years ago were pretty smart. Thanks for the compliment.
IF you read what I posted, which you OBVIOUSLY did not, the Confederate officers welcomed the black soldiers DESPITE the law.
The text below is by President Rutherford B Hayes [source: President Rutherford Birchard Hayes, my bold below]
May 2 [1891]. Saturday.-At the G. A. R. [State Encampment] there was a little demagoguery in the way of keeping alive the bitterness of the war. A motion was made and carried against the purchase of Chickamauga battlefield, against Rebel monuments, etc., etc. The truth is, the men of the South believed in their theory of the Constitution. There was plausibility, perhaps more than plausibility, in the States' rights doctrine under the terms and in the history of the Constitution. Lee and Jackson are not in the moral character of their deeds to be classed with Benedict Arnold. They fought for their convictions, for their country as they had been educated to regard it. Let them be mistaken, and treated accordingly. Their military genius and heroism make the glory of the Union triumph.
If memory serves, the federal government has declared all Confederate soldiers to be Americans.
Thanks for the ping great article.
Give me some numbers.
The Federal govt in Lincoln’s day was no different than the govt now. Government is government.
Actually it changed with Wilson bringing the Federal Reserve, and then FDR with his socialism, and then LBJ with his War on Poverty, and Carter, Clinton, and Obama with their wars on the private sector. It's gone downhill a lot since 1912.
Good to see how you feeling?
Except there never were any taxes on cotton.
The 1860 federal budget, that Lincoln was supposedly trying to fund, was $60M.
Over the next 4 years, to fight the war needed to protect that $60M/year, Lincoln raised and spent $40000M, entirely from the states that remained loyal.
Isn't it logical that it would have been financially a good deal easier for him let the southern states go and raise the $240M needed to run the government over four years from those same states than $4000M to wage war to get the southern states back?
The idea that any and all conflicts are at root about money derives from what is called vulgar Marxism. Why people who claim to be conservatives think it is insightful to accept a theory originated or at least popularized by Karl Marx is beyond me.
In actual fact, very few wars in human history made any sense, for either side, from a financial POV. Human wars arise from greed of individuals, pride, desire for prestige, and a host of other motivations. Almost never does a rational analysis of of financial alternatives play much or a role.
What did Nathan Forrest do to captured black prisoners at Fort Pillow? He had a lot of Mandela in him, chaining them to burning logs.
Could you please provide some documentation on how the cotton tax was levied and collected by the federal government?
Good luck, there never was any such tax.
Lincoln was in favor of central bank.
Recovery is a bear and very slow. It will be six weeks before I can lift 10 pounds again. It will be worth it though.
To believe that you must believe the southern States were not part of America at the time of the war, and, therefore, it was a war between two nations.
To add to your explanation: Lincoln was a major railroad attorney and his railroad friends needed the union to stay together.
Your link does not provide very good evidence. It makes a whole series of assertions, but no attempt to link to evidence to back up those assertions.
Good points. I looked for "cotton levy" and nothing came up, that's why I asked for some numbers. The best I can tell is that the government didn't levy southern cotton, but did put a tariff on foreign cotton and that caused a trade war with foreign nations that hurt the south because then foreign countries were putting higher tariffs on southern cotton.
central_va, what say you? You're always advocating for higher tariffs, it seems your heros didn't like high tariffs on foreign goods after all.
Cotton taxes and now this. Where the hell do you guys get your information? Lincoln fought against the international banksters getting a foothold here.
If Lincoln wanted them here why weren't they here?
First here is the link to the Cotton taxes of 1861. Link here.
Second since major industries have moved South since 1860's and most of the non union right to work states are in the South I am against "Free Trade" as it is practiced now. int the mid 18th century Great Brittan was a major trading partner for the mostly agricultural South, so naturally they hated tariffs. But the 21st century is not the 18th century. Economies change, the issue of states rights does not however.
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