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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Says Extra Points Could Be Eliminated
NESN ^ | by NESN Staff on Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:18PM

Posted on 01/21/2014 1:40:41 PM PST by Perdogg

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell talked to the league’s network on Monday about a number of different topics, several of which included possible rule changes.

One of the issues discussed was the idea of eliminating extra points after touchdowns, which Goodell says are just about “automatic.”

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To: Perdogg

I don’t like the idea. When are we supposed to go to the bathroom and get another beer?


61 posted on 01/21/2014 4:15:47 PM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: icwhatudo

Yup, I agree. If you want to kick, you have to kick a 30 or 35 harder. If you go for 2, then it gets put on the 3. I also like the idea of a 4 point kick for kicks of 55 or 60 yards. Would make things interesting. Nothing worse than a punt from the 45. Before you ask what happens if you are down by 4 and at the 30, I have an idea for how that would work.


62 posted on 01/21/2014 4:19:11 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

I can’t remember the last time a fake was tried on an extra point in the NFL. In college and HS it happens, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen it in the NFL. They put their offense out there and run a regular play. Every single time.


63 posted on 01/21/2014 4:21:59 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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To: Perdogg
I agree. PATs are as lame as intentional walks in baseball. Do away with them.

Give six points for the touchdown and then make the team earn the next two.

64 posted on 01/21/2014 4:24:09 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Perdogg

What ought to be eliminated are all pads and helmets.


65 posted on 01/21/2014 4:43:14 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Perdogg

Just keep on screwing with perfection. You’ll kill that Golden Goose eventually.


66 posted on 01/21/2014 4:44:12 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: dangus

“instead of the two-point conversion. THERE lies the drama!”

The proposal is a touchdown is 7, but an 8th point can be added by a run or pass play afterwards, but if you fail to get the 8th point, you end up with 6 points instead of 7.

The net result is pretty much the same as it is now, except you just forgo the actual kicking of the extra point.

I kind of like it.


67 posted on 01/21/2014 5:56:49 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Perdogg

Let’s eliminate Goodell instead.


68 posted on 01/21/2014 6:08:29 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Perdogg; discostu; catnipman

Here’s the thing, IMHO:
When an extra point is missed, is it usually because of great defense, a poor snap, or a poor kicker? If it’s the 3rd, I say get rid of it; it has little to do with the rest of the team. Otherwise, keep it.


69 posted on 01/21/2014 6:11:17 PM PST by dangus
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To: Mr. K
Why mess with something that works

Because that's what Goodell does. He's fundamentally transforming the NFL into the WWF.

70 posted on 01/21/2014 6:56:39 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Mr. K
Why mess with something that works

Football evolved. So it's time for the rules to change. Extra point is boring now. It means I need another beer from the fridge.

71 posted on 01/21/2014 7:59:55 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Defiant

I think there were at least 2 of them tried during playoffs this year.


72 posted on 01/21/2014 9:06:14 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: dangus

“Here’s the thing, IMHO:
When an extra point is missed, is it usually because of great defense, a poor snap, or a poor kicker? If it’s the 3rd, I say get rid of it; it has little to do with the rest of the team. Otherwise, keep it.”

Goodell said only 4 PATs out of 1,191 were missed this year. So I’m not sure if it really matters that much WHY they were missed (all 4 blocked according to Goodell), since they were made 99.7% of the time. In other words, boring.

Personally, I’d rather see the kickoff moved back 10 yards. Lots of exciting things (both good and bad) can happen on kickoff returns.


73 posted on 01/21/2014 9:08:47 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Defiant

There’s not enough room down there for trickery. Defenses can recover from an initial misstep quickly because there isn’t much ground to cover.


74 posted on 01/21/2014 9:11:17 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

You are confusing punts with extra points. No one has lined up for an extra point and then run a fake (intentionally—remember Romo) for a long time. I don’t watch every game, but I watch a lot of them, and the highlights and all the playoff games. Can’t recall a fake extra point try.


75 posted on 01/21/2014 9:53:02 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I think the reason you don't see fake PATs is because of personnel. You have a holder and a kicker (worthless), special teams TEs and wing men, who are not your best players, and you are supposed to snap it and hand off to someone and run up the middle or to the corner? Ain't gonna work. And the holder is usually a punter, so you don't want him making a pass. All your players are in tight formation, so you have slow guys on the line who you want to send out in the flat to get a pass from the punter? No way.

My guess is that is why they never fake the kick. Better to put the offense out there and run a real play.

76 posted on 01/21/2014 9:57:21 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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To: Perdogg

How about we eliminate On Field Officials.


77 posted on 01/22/2014 4:06:58 AM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar said "Quae cum ita sunt. Since these things are so.".)
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To: dangus

Usually they get missed by just bad luck, somebody screws up, snapper, holder or kicker. Sometimes field conditions. Problem is it’s almost never missed, 5 times out of 1200 tries this season, that’s just not a failure rate that makes a play interesting.


78 posted on 01/22/2014 7:10:10 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Defiant

We don’t see much in the way of fake FGs across the board, largely because of personnel, also it’s a long snap so it moves further away from the line than a normal play. Add to that the strategic element of who really wants to show their cool trick play for 1 additional point and they get even less likely for PATs.


79 posted on 01/22/2014 7:27:04 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: discostu
One other reason why there is no fake PAT in the NFL. The chance of success on a block is terribly low. Only 5 or so PATs failed this whole past season. So who is going to waste effort, and risk injury, trying to block it. Any kicker worth his salt can kick it up in the air above any ability of a human to block it, and still make a 20 yard kick go through. So you rush enough guys to force the kick in case of a bad snap or bobble, but not so many as you would when you want a block.

As a result, you have someone on the outside on both sides, and a couple linebackers and maybe even a safety, and their one job is to watch the fake. They are not usually ever in the rush. So a really well executed fake isn't going to actually fake anyone out, because the ones you want to fake are taught to stay put.

For field goals, it's different. Sometimes they send 9 guys at it, assuming that it will not be a fake. When the defense is going for the block, and you pull the ball out like Lucy, and you only have 2 guys to beat, a fake can work, even with non-optimal personnel. But you're not going to get that kind of rush all of the time.

You might also see an all out block effort on a PAT when the game is on the line, too. For example, if a last second TD ties the game, and the PAT is for the win. There, the defense might as well send everyone, on the notion that no coach would be crazy enough to fake the PAT in that situation. when they still have a 99% chance of making the kick even with a big rush.

80 posted on 01/22/2014 12:50:28 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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