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Real alphabet for English?
http://bearfabrique.org/EnglishAlphabet/English_Alphabet.htm ^

Posted on 01/30/2014 8:26:08 PM PST by varmintman

The whole world knows that English spelling is a sick joke. If English is to be the international language of business and commerce, then a rational alphabet and a rational system of spelling need to be devised for it, and the present hodgepodge system needs to be jettissoned altogether. The inordinate amount of time spent by foreigners and English speaking children alike learning our present system of spelling would be better of spent on more reasonable goals.

A reasonable system of spelling for English would be based on the following ideas:

The following should serve as an example of what is needed.....

(Excerpt) Read more at bearfabrique.org ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Computers/Internet; Education; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alphabet; englishlanguage; phoneticspelling
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1 posted on 01/30/2014 8:26:09 PM PST by varmintman
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To: varmintman

Uh. No.


2 posted on 01/30/2014 8:30:35 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: varmintman
If English is to be the international language of business and commerce...

It already is.

3 posted on 01/30/2014 8:30:48 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: varmintman

Worse than the spelling is that English has too many phonemes and homonyms. The closest you can get to a simpler sounding/spelled language is Spanish or Latin.


4 posted on 01/30/2014 8:32:41 PM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: varmintman

And after generations are taught the simplified spelling will they be able to read older books or will they be lost to the general culture or treated as mere quaint poems and prose like Chaucer’s works?


5 posted on 01/30/2014 8:35:56 PM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: varmintman

I don’t get it. Why would we need letters for sounds that don’t exist in English (Spanish N~, trilling R, etc.)? None of the major languages have separate letters for trilling Rs and English-style Rs.


6 posted on 01/30/2014 8:37:36 PM PST by dangus
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To: varmintman

I have actually thought about this situation.

However, I prefer devising new characters. I hate those extra symbols. Think of a keyboard. You might as well make new characters as add keys for all the different “accents” on extant letters.

We have a wonderful flexible language, but the “diversity” that ultimately molded it is also what causes all the confusion. Far too many influences that contradict each other.


7 posted on 01/30/2014 8:39:51 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: dangus

The same old standard phonetic alphabet (which you
would use to describe spelling “Wilson” as “Whiskey, India,
Lima, Sierra, Oscar, November”) has been used by aircraft
pilots, millitary personnel, and many others for many years
now. So, I finally decided to come up with something a bit
more “original” for those people who annoy me:

A Are N Nine
B Bee O Owe
C Cite P Pseudonym
D Double-U Q Queue
E Eye R Rap
F Five S Sea
G Genre T Tsunami
H Hoe U Understand?
I I V Vie
J Junta W Why
K Knot X Xylophone
L Lye Y You
M Me Z Zero

People don’t ask me to spell anything over the
phone anymore.


8 posted on 01/30/2014 8:40:08 PM PST by dangus
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Try reading all your English by what we’re taught is basic English phonetics.

Heck, try just my sentence there.


9 posted on 01/30/2014 8:42:18 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: varmintman

I’m with you! Get rid of ‘ph’ spelling for ‘f’ sounds! For that matter, why is there a ‘ck’ spelling when the sound is pure ‘k’.

We should modernize the language!


10 posted on 01/30/2014 8:42:40 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: varmintman

No ə?


11 posted on 01/30/2014 8:43:23 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: varmintman
If English is to be the international language of business and commerce

It pretty much is already

12 posted on 01/30/2014 8:43:49 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty’s Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).

In the first year, “s” will be used instead of the soft “c.” Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard “c” will be replaced with “k”. Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik emthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome “ph” will be replaced by “f”. This will make words like fotograf” 20 persent shorter.

In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent “e”s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing “th” by “z” and “w” by “ v”.

During ze fifz year, ze unesesary “o” kan be dropd from vords kontaining “ou”, and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer.

Ze drem vil finali kum tru.


13 posted on 01/30/2014 8:45:07 PM PST by dangus
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To: teppe

or modernize the people


14 posted on 01/30/2014 8:45:42 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: varmintman

maybee thay need to spel thingz fonticalli. due yung peepol nott due that alredi wen thay teckst on thayr i-fonez? (/sarc)


15 posted on 01/30/2014 8:45:43 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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crazee

Okay, we should all just learn Korean I guess

or better yet, just use their alphabet


16 posted on 01/30/2014 8:48:38 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Procyon
The closest you can get to a simpler sounding/spelled language is Spanish or Latin.

I'm going to disagree; languages using syllabaries (eg Japanese, Cherokee) tend to be simpler spelling (arguably sounding as well), IMO.

17 posted on 01/30/2014 8:50:53 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: varmintman


18 posted on 01/30/2014 8:51:34 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Japanese is very complicated, not as crazy as Chinese with their phonebook-level alphabet..... Korean is simpler than both


19 posted on 01/30/2014 8:52:42 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Procyon
The closest you can get to a simpler sounding/spelled language is Spanish

Spare us. All the bilingual subway signs in English and Spanish show me that it takes 50 percent more words to say the same thing.

20 posted on 01/30/2014 8:53:19 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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