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Going To College May Cost You, But So Will Skipping It
NPR ^ | 02/12/2014 | Jennifer Ludden

Posted on 02/12/2014 9:56:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/12/2014 9:56:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Young people express themselves oddly..

College is, like, not optional, he says.

Totally, dude..........................


2 posted on 02/12/2014 10:00:50 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

If your major is Wymyns Stydies or Gender Studies, skipping college won’t hurt you.


3 posted on 02/12/2014 10:04:46 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Thing is, that college is only as good as the degree you’re getting. The young barely know what to do with themselves and barely know what they want out of life, so realistically what on earth are they doing spending thousands on college when they aren’t even sure what they want out of life?

Not going can cost you, but only if you don’t have the right kind of motivation to explore your options and really think through where you want to go in life. If a student spends their university years boozing and not studying, it’s a waste of time. If they spend their uni years in the library then they’ll profit from their success. As for the rest, if they don’t have good connections, or bother to cultivate them online and take some kind of initiative, again, college and university is just a complete waste of their time.

If you learn a trade, a degree would be just a distraction from the real world of making real money and living a real life.


4 posted on 02/12/2014 10:05:11 AM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: SeekAndFind; Dilbert San Diego; Opinionated Blowhard

I think a lack of work history does more damage; so many young adults are students, full time, not workers. They can get grades, but the real question is whether or not they can get the job done.


5 posted on 02/12/2014 10:07:34 AM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it’s more about driving your path than college. I only bothered with the mythic “some college” but make more than the national average for my age group with a 4 year degree, because I navigated my waters. You can always make good money if you work the job and get promotions. When I was at McDonalds (before my “some college”) our regional manager was living in a neighborhood filled with doctors and lawyers, because regional manager pays that much and he’d worked the McD system to get there from lowly crew grunt. There’s always a promotion path available to a higher standard of living, the question is are you on that path or just hanging around.


6 posted on 02/12/2014 10:10:04 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We have many younger relatives who optioned out of the college degree route and developed skills needed yesterday and today. They are doing very well.

We have a few younger relatives with very specific and valuable degrees, some with advanced degrees in their special area. These are not PC bs degrees, aka Instant Unemployment Degrees. Also, each of these younger relatives had good jobs from teenage years through out college.

College is not for everyone and good trade school/training isn’t for everyone.

A good guarantee doesn’t exist for each track. One has to find out what they are good at and how to use that skill/knowledge to get a job and how to keep improving their job skills and job worth throughout their life.

A bad guarantee exists for those who don’t develop good work habits including be able to talk and communicate with adults.

Also, anyone getting a PC, Instant Unemployment Degree will be deeply in debt with student loans and have nothing to bargain with to get a job.


7 posted on 02/12/2014 10:13:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d like to see some stats on reading/writing. I’m thinking employers favor college grads if for nothing more than hoping they will find someone that might be able to read.


8 posted on 02/12/2014 10:22:13 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
IIRC, it is Bitter Wymyns Studies.
9 posted on 02/12/2014 10:24:53 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: WinMod70

In the Business world College is known as the new “High School” meaning that what you used to get educationally at that level now takes college to attain. I is by no means a guarantee of a job, meaningless and non focused degree tracks yield debt and no employment in the chosen dicipline.

Trade schools and associated “blue collar” skill sets are in high and continuous demand but the perception of many is they are not as good as a degree. Look up the term “guild” and it’s provenance, the whole model is built on competency in a given discipline or trade. Colleges are good in some cases providing “theoretical” knowledge but few if any courses are taught by individuals who have ever used their knowledge in an actual work environment. Many if not most in the Edutocracy feel that there is no real difference between the two (theoretical versus practical application) and they could really care less as long as they get paid.

Companies are looking for people now with experience using knowledge (called wisdom) and are not anxious to hire newbies looking to have them be a proving ground only to have the newly trained employee (think investment) fly off to another company. This is also a false model as company culture, systems and methods vary widely and it can be very hard to take someone who is deeply acculturated and have them adapt to a new one especially if they do not have all the right elements in place to help in the process and reinforce their way of doing things.

Just my 2c as I have researched this subject extensively and I am no fan at all of the current college/university model as anything more than a way for them to soak up Student Loan dollars and turn out graduates who still have no clue what they can do with their degree and what they purportedly “learned”


10 posted on 02/12/2014 10:34:10 AM PST by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: SeekAndFind

From NPR: Hillary’s state-owned publication.

Here’s some better advice for young folks. Find whatever cheap work you can get and learn all that you can about frugality and self-sufficiency.


11 posted on 02/12/2014 10:49:05 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Only because the bulk of employers in this country have been totally brainwashed to believe a degree holds the same value today as it did after WW II.


12 posted on 02/12/2014 11:15:27 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
Leftist media supporting leftist higher ed.

I know people in leftist higher ed and they are worried about their jobs. All the universities and colleges that are third tier and below are shaking in their boots as programs are cut. Many are under unions, but if the program is cut there isn't much the unions can do.

If your kids come home telling you that the English or Art history department think they would be perfect to change their majors, that is a desperate department trying to increase their numbers and justify their existence.

13 posted on 02/12/2014 1:34:28 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In the USA now emerging, one needs to possess some type of Third World skill. This is far more important for younger people than acquiring a non-STEM college degree, which can come later - if at all.


14 posted on 02/12/2014 1:37:46 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Chickensoup

I’m sure the regime will develop a program to save “Big Ed”.
When the millenials start to get nervous about granny’s early demise at the hands of the Death Panels, the regime will start offering Groupons for student loan remissions.


15 posted on 02/12/2014 1:39:12 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: familyop

They start out owing $100,000
I think getting a job and working your way up is better as that extra money you made from a college education is used to pay the loan.


16 posted on 02/12/2014 2:17:32 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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RE: one needs to possess some type of Third World skill.

What on earth is a Third world skill?


17 posted on 02/12/2014 2:22:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Basketweaving?


18 posted on 02/12/2014 2:23:20 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Transgender Basketweaving Arts Appreciation and a study of White Privilege in the Basketweaving Industry


19 posted on 02/12/2014 2:24:47 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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Well now.

Do they give out PhDs in that?


20 posted on 02/12/2014 2:38:00 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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