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FAA seeks new air traffic controllers—no experience needed
CBS Atlanta ^ | Feb 13, 2014 8:53 PM EST | Tanita Gaither

Posted on 02/19/2014 1:38:23 AM PST by Olog-hai

If you’re looking for a new career in the exciting field of aviation, the Federal Aviation Administration is now taking applications to for new air traffic controllers.

The requirements for the position do not include, however, previous air traffic controller or aviation experience. The job previously sought those with military or prior aviation experience. […]

The current job listing requires only United States citizenship, security clearance, a physical, fluency in English, three years of responsible work experience or a bachelor’s degree. The applicants must able to attend the FAA training academy prior to their 31st birthday and willing to locate “to an air traffic facility based on the FAA’s highest needs at the time.” …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: atc; noexperience

1 posted on 02/19/2014 1:38:23 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

"..you only have to have the ability to blame someone else"

2 posted on 02/19/2014 1:45:17 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

I do think stories like this do place the whole “there are simply no jobs available at all, anywhere narrative” in an at least somewhat different light. But maybe that is just me.


3 posted on 02/19/2014 1:47:49 AM PST by freedom462
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To: Olog-hai

Might as well put me in control of JPL.


4 posted on 02/19/2014 1:49:15 AM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: Olog-hai; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

What could go wrong?

PING!


5 posted on 02/19/2014 1:53:35 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Colorado: the Maryland of the Mountain West)
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To: Olog-hai

Training a controller from scratch is much more effective than picking up someone who is no longer a controller due to stress, etc. It’s not exactly a 2 week on the job course. There are waiting lists for ATC training in many cases, and a small percentage of applicants even make the cut to start training.


6 posted on 02/19/2014 1:55:11 AM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: Olog-hai

Cool.. same requirements as an Ambassador.


7 posted on 02/19/2014 2:00:27 AM PST by maddog55
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe they only have to direct airplanes in flight, not takeoffs and landings... s/


8 posted on 02/19/2014 2:04:42 AM PST by Truth29
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To: AnAmericanInEngland

You’re exactly right, AAIE.


9 posted on 02/19/2014 2:05:03 AM PST by Ancient Man
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To: Olog-hai

While it sounds frightening, I do not see it as a problem.
Speaking as a former plane owner and pilot, I do not see aviation experience having so much to do with the job of a controller. It mostly depends on concentration, sharp memory, and attention to detail. I knew several controllers on a social basis before my becoming a pilot. None of them were pilots at the time.


10 posted on 02/19/2014 2:14:37 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Truth29

“Maybe they only have to direct airplanes in flight, not takeoffs and landings... s/”
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There are three separate positions. Tower, Approach/departure control, and in-route control. The tower is the only position where a controller has has visual contact with the plane.
The rest are in a dark room with nothing but a radar screen.


11 posted on 02/19/2014 2:22:25 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

You missed the sarcasm tag. Think about 9/11.


12 posted on 02/19/2014 2:25:42 AM PST by Truth29
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To: maddog55

“Cool.. same requirements as an Ambassador.”

That is the best line I have read in ages.


13 posted on 02/19/2014 2:28:08 AM PST by billhilly
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To: AlexW

Before 1981 the ability to consume large amounts of alcohol was a plus. Now with flow control and ground stops not so much.


14 posted on 02/19/2014 2:31:51 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Olog-hai

31 years of age limit. I am 60 with an aviation background, (private pilot), and military background, (USAF 72-76 Top Secret Security Clearance), 44 years of responsible work experience and a associates degree in engineering. I am going to apply then file age discrimination suit when I am turned down.


15 posted on 02/19/2014 2:36:47 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Truth29

“You missed the sarcasm tag. Think about 9/11.”
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No, I was only pointing out the stages of ATC...as I remember them from my flying days. ATC has no control over suicidal Muzies, and I do not know if ATC has changed much in the last 15 years.


16 posted on 02/19/2014 3:05:15 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Dr. Ursus

“Before 1981 the ability to consume large amounts of alcohol was a plus.”
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Some years before I was a pilot, I knew an ATC controller that worked at Memphis center. He was most always drunk when I saw him. I do not know if he was quite sober when he went to work. This would have been in the 70s to early 80s.


17 posted on 02/19/2014 3:10:54 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

Knowing that man you still became a pilot?


18 posted on 02/19/2014 4:08:01 AM PST by billhilly
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To: AnAmericanInEngland
Training a controller from scratch is much more effective than picking up someone who is no longer a controller due to stress, etc. It’s not exactly a 2 week on the job course. There are waiting lists for ATC training in many cases, and a small percentage of applicants even make the cut to start training.

Shame on you! You should know that there is this element on FR who know better than FAA management as to how to recruit for their employees.

19 posted on 02/19/2014 4:58:13 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Olog-hai

File this under the “What could not go wrong” department. This makes as much sense as electing a pres - - ent with no experience other than being a community organizer from Chicago.


20 posted on 02/19/2014 5:22:05 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s a non-story. ATC’s have always been hired without training.


21 posted on 02/19/2014 5:51:42 AM PST by pacific_waters
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To: Conspiracy Guy

ATC’s have always had an age cap because the job is considered so stressful.


22 posted on 02/19/2014 5:52:59 AM PST by pacific_waters
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To: Olog-hai

This has been known for quite a while, the push for controllers started a few years ago, the same goes for pilots. There are big time shortages of both on the Horizon, very few students learning to fly at my airport, And with rentals at $140 per hour Plus another $30 for the Instructor, it is rather expensive now. About 10K for your private when all is said and done. When I got my License it was still affordable by most. I spent 2K. And the Military is offering Huge signing bonuses for Pilots to STAY, most are leaving anyway.


23 posted on 02/19/2014 8:30:37 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok
Anyone who is stupid enough to work for this administration, DESERVES what they get.
P.S. I'm a retired air traffic controller with 30 years of experience.
24 posted on 02/19/2014 8:33:00 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Olog-hai

“Extremist Muslims get first preference.”


25 posted on 02/19/2014 8:36:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: pacific_waters

“It’s a non-story. ATC’s have always been hired without training.”

I disagree. A significant number of controllers are ex-military air traffic controllers.


26 posted on 02/19/2014 10:57:55 AM PST by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: pacific_waters

I know. I got an ATC job when Reagan fired the strikers. But I turned it down for a promotion and large raise not to leave the company I worked for. I did the right thing and have never regretted it. I took a golden parachute years later rather than relocate. I’ve done even better since then. As for stress. Most ATC jobs away from the huge airports are more boring than stressful.


27 posted on 02/19/2014 11:14:55 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: maddog55
Cool.. same requirements as an Ambassador.

I didn't see "openly gay" in the requirements.

28 posted on 02/19/2014 11:17:30 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Olog-hai

I actually looking into becoming an air traffic controller when I was in college about 14 or 15 years ago. I don’t recall military or aviation experience being requirements then and I don’t think they ever have been. I think that they’ve been ‘nice to haves’ and counted towards your application but they have never been required to even apply for the job.


29 posted on 02/19/2014 11:23:40 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Olog-hai

The applicants must able to attend the FAA training academy prior to their 31st birthday
***Age discrimination


30 posted on 02/19/2014 5:03:26 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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