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Half of federal employees considering leaving for the private sector, survey finds
The Baltimore Sun ^ | February 21, 2014 | Matthew Hay Brown

Posted on 02/22/2014 8:04:31 AM PST by Stalwart

Market Connections, based in Chantilly, Va., performs polls, surveys and other research for federal agencies and contractors. When the firm conducted the survey of 370 civilian and defense workers for the newsletter FierceGovernmentIT, Market Connections President Lisa Dezzutti expected the percentage of employees who acknowledged considering a job switch to be "a big number." But she didn't anticipate it would reach 50 percent.

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I had no idea so many FedGov types were considering moving to the greener pastures of the private sector.

FierceGovernment?

Should this article get a humor tag here?

1 posted on 02/22/2014 8:04:31 AM PST by Stalwart
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To: Stalwart

I believe the overwhelming majority of government workers would be useless to private industry.

They would be required to WORK and PRODUCE something.

Besides, there aren’t any jobs to be had in private industry.

So, I suppose we’ll just continue to support the useless mass.


2 posted on 02/22/2014 8:07:54 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler
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To: Stalwart
Their discontent is understandable their chances of finding employment in a dwindling economy....seems unlikely.

do they feel no sense of SHAME, wanting to abandon the great leader in his hour of need?


3 posted on 02/22/2014 8:09:08 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Where are The Weapons Of Mass Global Climate Change Destruction?)
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To: Peter W. Kessler

I agree with you, they think they are not getting the high pay their “civilian counterparts” are, but they are actually making more. I know, I was a government worker, they whine and complain like children about how they are mistreated


4 posted on 02/22/2014 8:09:49 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Stalwart

Better benefits and better pay. Many of my private sector friends and I talk about going to government jobs for less stress, less hours, better medical, and pensions. They are obviously not aware of the real world.


5 posted on 02/22/2014 8:12:16 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: Stalwart

My Grandfather told me, “Every person you meet will tell you that they are overworked and underpaid.” He was right.


6 posted on 02/22/2014 8:12:40 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Stalwart

Unless they are staff attorneys, wait til they see the salary offers, the lack of benefits and unionization, and [lack of] job security, and let that simmer in their little brains for half a minute. Not 10% of them would or could follow through with even a half hearted attempt. Yeah, they’re “thinking” about it. Pfffft. Uh huh, at age 59, I’m thinking about becoming an NFL quarterback. Deeply.


7 posted on 02/22/2014 8:14:09 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Stalwart

In these surveys a lot of people will always be “considering” leaving. Considering is a far cry from doing. During the Dinkins administration, similar numbers were “considering” leaving NYC, few actually did.


8 posted on 02/22/2014 8:15:01 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: yldstrk

I talked to a couple once who complained about their pay freezes, so I looked it up in the database. I wish I had their pay freezes! They were making more than I was, and had increased their pay by much greater percentages than I had over the last few years, and I work for a very profitable private company.


9 posted on 02/22/2014 8:15:04 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: Stalwart

One thing to consider is the huge number of baby boomers in the Federal service. If they can get an early retirement, they could take a lower-paid job in private industry and end up with more money on the whole. Anyone in their fifties in the Federal sector with some marketable skill and a whiff of intelligence is going to be considering that option.

And for those who don’t think Feds have marketable skills, let me say as a Federal employee myself how the employment system works. Let’s say you have an auditor in the Federal government. They had a degree in auditing or at least enough college coursework to meet the requirements. Thus, they know something about the field. Is there dead wood in the Federal sector? Yes, but it’s not because people are hired without some skills on paper. The problem is they sometimes become dead wood after hiring.


10 posted on 02/22/2014 8:17:07 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Stalwart

Maybe they got a much needed wake-up call from Senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee?

If I was fat, dumb and happy with a mortgage and a job inside the Beltway. my house would now be up for sale and my CV would be updated. But then that would make me one of the smart ones so I contradict myself.

Thank you Senators Cruz and Lee!!!


11 posted on 02/22/2014 8:17:23 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Stalwart

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/18/for-federal-employees-office-often-closed-25-of-fi/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

Good luck finding a job that won’t require you to work more than 75% of the time normals do.


12 posted on 02/22/2014 8:24:40 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: conservative cat

The people that determine pay raises for the fed government are usually government contractors who compile data from selected sources to maximize the outcome in favor of their government customers; likely unwittingly.

The data usually come from large high cost of living urban areas where there are a lot of government contractors and a lot of government workers. This contractor-government nexus feeds on itself and drives the cost of government ever higher.


13 posted on 02/22/2014 8:25:21 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Stalwart

Many are getting near retirement age. Time to double dip!
Average government worker earns 2x private sector worker.


14 posted on 02/22/2014 8:25:29 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Take out the trash)
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To: Stalwart
My guess is most of these federal workers polled are related to the defense industry.

There's no way the louses & lardasses working in the DMV, educational establishment, EPA, etc are considering leaving. They're rolling in dough.

15 posted on 02/22/2014 8:25:52 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Stalwart

The other half don’t want to have to work


16 posted on 02/22/2014 8:26:04 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Stalwart

Hi tech jobs are not direct government jobs in most cases. The government doesn’t pay well enough for that. The good ones work for private contractors and many are very good at what they do and get paid much better than government workers.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 8:29:35 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Stalwart
I hear this ‘threat’ from useless bureaucrats all the time. ‘I had better get my raise or I am outta here!’ But, they never go. They just continue sucking the life blood from society in jobs so pointless they can't even pretend to justify their existences. These are the ones the zombies are going to eat first.
18 posted on 02/22/2014 8:30:05 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Stalwart
I hear this ‘threat’ from useless bureaucrats all the time. ‘I had better get my raise or I am outta here!’ But, they never go. They just continue sucking the life blood from society in jobs so pointless they can't even pretend to justify their existences. These are the ones the zombies are going to eat first.
19 posted on 02/22/2014 8:30:05 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Stalwart

Did these manage to avoid the 300% over payment of government.


20 posted on 02/22/2014 8:31:24 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Stalwart
"Half of federal employees considering leaving for the private sector..." AND

Half of federal employees leaving government will be disappointed on both compensation and accountability expectations as compared to government jobs.

OH MY!!

21 posted on 02/22/2014 8:41:29 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: A CA Guy
WARNING!!! WARNING!!! To all HR managers in the private sector: Keep an eye out for government employees who, if hired, will seriously harm your company. WARNING!!! WARNING!!!
22 posted on 02/22/2014 8:41:59 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Peter W. Kessler

“They would be required to WORK and PRODUCE something.”

Exactly. based on experience, there’s only 1 thing they mutter when we had ex-govt employees which is “Well, this never happened when I was with the union...”

These clowns are trained in the mentality of being untouchable and un-fire-able..


23 posted on 02/22/2014 8:46:41 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: hal ogen

The ignorance and jealousy in many of these posts are appalling. Do you people ever research, analyze or even think before your knee jerk reactions?

TC


24 posted on 02/22/2014 8:50:14 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: conservative cat

Ha Ha-

My wife has worked for the govt. for over 30 years!

She has seen my pay cut 30-40% - I do not get ANY

benefits- guess what?—

No one at her “govt. job” will talk to her any more -

She is entitled to a Pension-almost 60 % of salary
She will get health benefits
the Govt matched her 401 K-
At 63 she could start her Social Security
She currently earns 5+ weeks of vacation and 11 holidays
She has accumulated more than 750 Hours of “sick time”
She gets “longevity Pay!”!! which is a lump sum payout
at Christmas of $1300 dollars- everyyear now for the Kicker-

She makes more than 30% than me. and Could retire-NOW

I love my Wife-

When she tries to tell others how GOOD we are doing-the
other “workers “ just don’t believe her-

NOT ONE OF THEM WOULD MY BOSS EVER-EVER HIRE!
They live in a fantasy - O’BUMMER CARE LAND where they

believe the Private sector workers all make Millions.


25 posted on 02/22/2014 8:50:50 AM PST by mj1234
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To: Stalwart

What greener pastures? They will never get the salaries or bennies in private enterprise that they have with Uncle Sam.


26 posted on 02/22/2014 8:50:57 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Ignorance? Jealousy? Ignorance of what...I am aware than many/most government employees are slackers and unproductive. Jealousy of what...I do not care to be made soulless and a drone.


27 posted on 02/22/2014 8:52:06 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Exactly-

But, see my post- they will Not believe you!


28 posted on 02/22/2014 8:52:48 AM PST by mj1234
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To: Stalwart

“Half of federal employees considering leaving for the private sector, survey finds”

Bwahahaha. That is beyond funny.


29 posted on 02/22/2014 8:53:10 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Stalwart

The private sector isn’t that green any more.


30 posted on 02/22/2014 8:56:53 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Stalwart

I’ve seen many an outstanding defense contractor worker displaced by these civil servants and they end up getting social security on top of it. I’ve seen several government reduction in forces over the years and to a man they think they can get hired by the company that was working with their projects. Everyone thinks defense contract workers are making a a killing but their companies have to bid on projects and it’s been a race to the bottom over the years. I saw companies with great benefits replaced with companies with no benefits that won the bid. The workers rates mostly are determined by the wage and determination in any certain area can/is manipulated at times for political reasons. Nearly all the civil servants hired with these companies are never under the wage and determination of course. Why any company would hire an ex-civil servant as a project manager is beyond me. I liked working with the government guys that actually made things, but there was an endless stream of overseers too. Those types usually were milkers and obstructionist from my experience and the very people the company should not have hired.


31 posted on 02/22/2014 9:32:24 AM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: Stalwart

Bull. When faced by reality they will realize they can’t take a 50% cut in pay for double the hours.


32 posted on 02/22/2014 9:54:31 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Stalwart

I thought this was SOP. It’s called the double dip. Once they qualify for retirement, they retire and take a private sector job.

They have salary plus retirement pay. I have prepared tax returns for many of these individuals.


33 posted on 02/22/2014 10:03:29 AM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Stalwart

Once Obama has complete dictatorial control he no longer needs their votes. The talented ones will leave on their own.


34 posted on 02/22/2014 10:20:39 AM PST by Hurricane
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To: Stalwart

They should be preparing for their layoffs after the interest rate hikes and bond collapses.


35 posted on 02/22/2014 1:29:25 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Stalwart
Four of the five richest,and seven of the ten richest,counties in this country are suburbs of the one major city in this country that produces *nothing* of value...Washington DC.This is not a coincidence...this has been the work of the Rat Party over the last 40 years.

I say to the Baltimore Sun:

BARBARA STREISAND!


36 posted on 02/22/2014 3:11:43 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Stalwart

Good. Then fire 80% of the remainder.


37 posted on 02/22/2014 3:25:09 PM PST by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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