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Small Number Of Children In California Get Strange, New Polio-Like Illness
AP) ^ | February 23, 2014 9:22 PM

Posted on 02/24/2014 7:57:19 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: RFEngineer
Vaccination didn't help most of these kids ~

http://preventdisease.com/news/12/121112_Epidemiologist-Confirms-Indianas-Largest-Chickenpox-Outbreak.shtml

Vaccination didn't help these mothers and their unborn babies ~

http://preventdisease.com/news/12/090412_Study-Shows-Influenza-Vaccines-Caused-Spontaneous-Abortions-and-Stillbirths.shtml

Vaccination didn't help these kids either ~

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/06/vaccine-failure--over-1000-get-mumps-in-ny-in-last-six-months.aspx

"The risk of adverse effect is so remote compared to the risk of getting the disease one is vaccinated against that it’s foolish to say otherwise."?

Then why why is this the case? ~

"As of March 1, 2012, there have been 898 claims filed in the federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) for injuries and deaths following MMR vaccination, including 56 deaths and 842 serious injuries."

"As of August 2012, there have been a total of 26,304 reports made to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) associated with Gardasil or Cervarix vaccines, including 118 deaths."

"As of July 2012, there have been more than 84,000 reports of reactions, hospitalizations, injuries and deaths following influenza vaccinations made to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), including over 1,000 related deaths and over 1,600 cases of GBS. "

81 posted on 02/25/2014 8:28:29 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (You think you know me. You don't.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

“Then why why is this the case? ~”

You tell me. What do you think it means? Does it mean that kids shouldn’t get vaccinated?


82 posted on 02/25/2014 9:28:12 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
Vit D3. Good stuff. Take 5KU every day.

Elderberry. My wife gives my son for immunity. Not certain how effective.

colloidal silver — use it in a sinus spray. Not certain how effective.

acidophilis — and other probiotics. Kefir is VERY good here. I recommend it. Good while taking thoses nasty antibiotics. :) Even helps with the stomach flu.

Cranberry — good for urinary issues.

Others...

Resveratrol. Supposed to be the “fountain of youth.” Produced when organism is under stress. Cellular protection. Reduces chromosomal damage. Lab tests in mice show that it prolongs life. Common in grapes, acai.

Neem. Oral for brushing teeth. Has worked wonders on my teeth and gums. Promotes gum health and even causes gums to grow. Also, good topically for various skin ailments. Also, good to ward off internal parasites. Very common in India. All Indians have a tree in their backyard.

83 posted on 02/25/2014 9:45:20 AM PST by dhs12345
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You are the one who stated, "There can be no arguing with the health benefit and life-extending benefit of vaccines - there are plenty that will and do argue - based on a very small chance of adverse reaction, or some baseless belief in autism being caused."

I think that 116,362 reported adverse effects that include death from just these 3 vaccinations belies your assertion risks are "so remote". I would suggest that enduring the actual disease with proper care for and reduction of symptoms is actually more beneficial than vaccination. I would suggest that the benefit of life-long immunity conferred by the natural disease is preferable, TO ME, than the still to this day untested risks of the adjutants contained in vaccines. I would suggest that these thousands upon thousands of people who have had adverse effects up to and including death from vaccines might argue that the risk for them was not so small. But that's just me (and a few million others).

84 posted on 02/25/2014 10:16:02 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (You think you know me. You don't.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

“I think that 116,362 reported adverse effects that include death from just these 3 vaccinations belies your assertion risks are “so remote”.”

From here:
http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/complications.html

you get this for just measles:
“It is estimated that in 2008 there were 164,000 measles deaths worldwide.”

So 164,000 deaths is a bigger number than 116,232 (including deaths - but you didn’t break it out) isn’t it? The 164,000 is just DEATHS worldwide every year for measles.

I submit you have no idea what you are talking about - people like you DO NOT KNOW but talk authoritatively and give trusting people confidence to NOT vaccinate their kids and then feel good about it.

You are the worst kind of idiot, because you kill people that don’t realize what you are with your stupidity.

So tell you what - stop spewing nonsense that kills people, ok?

To anyone else reading this - get your kids vaccinated. the chance of complications is not zero, but it is small as compared with the chance of complications for not getting vaccinated and enduring the certainty of diseases like measles. Use your judgment and doctors advice on combining multiple vaccines at one time, by all means, but get the vaccinations.


85 posted on 02/25/2014 11:06:41 AM PST by RFEngineer
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I would further suggest that You are the idiot with your ridiculous, over-the-top assertion that I “kill people”. I specifically emphasized “TO ME” in my post. You and I can each bring our own experts, their websites, their research, and their opinions to the table, but in the end, it comes down to who we each believe more reliable. You obviously choose to believe the US government which lies to the American people on a daily basis about just about everything. Good day.


86 posted on 02/25/2014 12:41:48 PM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (You think you know me. You don't.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

No, there is no “Good Day”

You are making otherwise uninformed people comfortable with not vaccinating children by PRETENDING to know what the hell you are talking about, when you know so little you are DANGEROUS.

Your ignorance, presented as fact, definitely does threaten to kill people.

STOP advising on vaccinations. You understand none of the math or epidemiology associated with vaccination.

There are volumes of peer-reviewed data and science on vaccination over the last century. You bring nothing, yet you wish to be taken seriously by now advancing a conspiracy theory that the government is somehow lying about efficacy of vaccines vs. not vaccinating.

I hope nobody takes you and your deluded BS seriously for the sake of their own, and their children’s health.


87 posted on 02/25/2014 1:49:54 PM PST by RFEngineer
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