Skip to comments.Small Number Of Children In California Get Strange, New Polio-Like Illness
Posted on 02/24/2014 7:57:19 AM PST by BenLurkin
Dr. Keith Van Haren, a pediatric neurologist at Stanford Universitys Lucile Packard Childrens Hospital who has worked with Glasers team, will present the cases of five of the children at the American Academy of Neurologys upcoming annual meeting.
He said all five patients had paralysis in one or more arms or legs that reached its full severity within two days. None had recovered limb function after six months.
We know definitively that it isnt polio, Van Haren added, noting that all had been vaccinated against that disease.
Glaser wouldnt provide the number of illnesses. Van Haren said he was aware of around 20.
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Why is that? Couldn’t be millions of unchecked illegal Mexicans coming from who knows where carrying what heretofore extinct diseases, could it?
No, they bring a richness of diversity, do the jobs Americans won’t do, and have a shared heritage with this country. That couldn’t include bringing diseases with them. /s
Illegal aliens bringing us pathogenic diversity.
Diseases we never had to be concerned with before.
Like nobody saw this coming.
Illegals leaving Arizona for sanctuary cities bring contagious diseases with them
Illegals Bringing Drug Resistant TB to US
They know it can’t be polio since the children were all vaccinated for it. What a stupid thing to say. It’s like doctors these days are selected from some religious background that forbids healthy scientific skepticism.
Its probably something found in a McDouble.
Well, as with any other virus, it has the ability to change, or mutate. As a school nurse, I’ve been reading about this for more than a decade now. This is not news.
This is horrible.
He didn't say that, exactly. He said they know the disease wasn't polio, AND the children were vaccinated. They might have learned the first fact by testing the children's blood for the pathogen that causes polio.
“One of our grandkids practically went into a come for a couple days after getting seven shots in one day.”
That you have lived long enough to have grand kids that have lived long enough to give you joy is in no small part due to those shots you criticize.
Another gift from the illegals. /s
I keep my kids up to date with their shots but lately, they have been having reactions to their shots. I’ve also been having bad reactions to the flu shots as well.
I don’t think I’m going to get them again. My arm swells up and and becomes to painful to sleep on or even touch.
I question the intelligence of a mother that schedules 7 shots in one day.
It’s not like Dr.s give those shots w/o consent of the parent. You can choose to make multiple appointments and do them two at a time several days or a week apart.
I refused the hepatitis series entirely for my infants, choosing to delay that series until they were pre-teens. Didn’t do the chicken pox until Jr. High.
I am a strong believer in vaccines, just not that you absolutely have to follow the recommended schedule, which is designed for urban and or turd world populations and not for rural, homeschooling families with many many fewer risk factors.
The chicken pox vaccine actually gave my daughter the chicken pox.
What an absolutely ignorant statement.
“Maybe it’s all the damn shots they give these kids. One of our grandkids practically went into a come for a couple days after getting seven shots in one day.”
First of all - doctors bully parents into giving kids multiple shots at once. Secondly - these shots are not what they were 30-40 years ago. They contain dead fetal cells, mercury, and who knows what else in them.
I have never had & never will get a flu shot. And no, I do not get the flu. I have friends who get the flu shot every year and still get the flu.
I hope your grandkids are ok.
The benefits of illegal immigration is continuing to be realized.../s
Liberal analogy... if they are legalized this will not happen anymore.
I think it comes from Delta Smelts...they should start a study any day now.
And we know that those who are immunized NEVER contract the diseases they’ve been vaccinated against, don’t we?
Ya. Sorry to hear it.
Scary from the other side too. There are some really nasty diseases like Polio that are just waiting to come back if we stop immunizing people.
Just travel to India some time. I got so many booster shots that BOTH of my arms hurt for a week.
True, most of the time the symptoms are lessened.
Maybe getting mildly sick versus maybe dying.
Case in point: People have stopped immunizing for pertussis in my area. The incidences have increased dramatically over the past year. I wouldn’t want not have been immunized. Whooping Cough was a pretty nasty disease back in the day.
“Prevention by vaccination is of primary importance given the seriousness of the disease in children.”
She didn't "schedule" them you jerk. She trusted the doctor to know what he was doing.
A modern iteration of Cutter Labs on the job?
The decline of most diseases has been ongoing for a little more than 100 years. With increased access to proper diet, clean water and improved sanitation methods, many diseases were already on the decline when mass vaccination was instituted in the 1950s. If you eat properly, have access to clean water and sanitation and have a healthy immune system, most diseases are easily treatable and survivable in today’s world.
And that’s my point. It’s not the doctor’s baby. It’s hers. She is in complete control of the choices she makes.
The baby is completely reliant on mommy to make good choices and to listen to her mommy instinct and ignore the “experts” who think seven shots is okay.
The shot schedule is not based 100% on the child’s best interest, but on a whole host of factors, one of which is the lowest common denominator of low IQ, drug addicted ghetto mothers which instructs that the best way to protect the herd is to do all the shots possible whenever a child is presented, because the parents may fail to follow up. The occasional and rare individual adverse reaction is considered an acceptable collateral damage in the cost-benefit equation.
If you are not a member of that demographic, there is no actual reason to follow the schedule designed for it. Smart mothers can do it differently to suit their child’s actual needs and risks as an individual rather than as a herd member.
The reason my wife and I have become “experts” is because our doctor thinks that my son might have caught whooping cough. Although we are becoming more skeptical. BTW, my son was immunized which is why we are now becoming skeptical. However, as mentioned before, immunization is not foolproof.
Here is my point: if my son did catch it, then he caught it from another kid whose parents opted out of the immunization requirements. My son hasn't been terribly sick but he does have asthma which complicates things.
Important: So those parents risked MY SON'S health and well being.
How about this: if parents do opt out, then how about letting the other parents and school officials know. That way, we can be “careful” around their kids.
Hey, I am all for Libertarianism and free choice.... “as long as what you do doesn't affect me.”
It’s strange the story provides so little information, nothing about the age of the children or their home towns. If this should involve illegal aliens, that fact will receive more confidential treatment than our most highly classified military secrets.
Did you know that research shows that asthma is a possible side effect of the adjutants in vaccinations? People like to throw out the argument that unvaccinated people are a danger to vaccinated people. A false argument. If vaccination is effective, then unvaccinated have no effect on the vaccinated. It’s possible that whoever exposed your son to Whooping Cough was also vaccinated against it as your son was. Most of the recent outbreak is in vaccinated people. It wasn’t necessarily an unvaxed person that “spread” it to your son.
The operative word there is “most”. But the ones that don’t fit in that “most” category need to be vaccinated against, measles and polio being the two biggies since they have can have crippling side effects even when survived.
Another consideration is treatment costs vs. immunization costs. Immunization is cheap insurance.
Bordetella pertussis Strains with Increased Toxin Production Associated with Pertussis Resurgence
“In the 1990s, a resurgence of pertussis was observed in a number of countries with highly vaccinated populations, and pertussis has become the most prevalent vaccine-preventable disease in industrialized countries. We present evidence that in the Netherlands the dramatic increase in pertussis is temporally associated with the emergence of Bordetella pertussis strains carrying a novel allele for the pertussis toxin promoter, which confers increased pertussis toxin (Ptx) production. Epidemiologic data suggest that these strains are more virulent in humans. We discuss changes in the ecology of B. pertussis that may have driven this adaptation. Our results underline the importance of Ptx in transmission, suggest that vaccination may select for increased virulence, and indicate ways to control pertussis more effectively.”
You haven’t taken your children to a military doctor, have you? They are militant about vaccines and about obeying their commands. Or so my daughter says. Our children’s physicians have all been reasonable and protective with waiting to give vaccines for a few months after each of our children were born.
The Fukushima reference didn’t show for 17 posts!
There is hope for FR!
(I expected it within the first 5)
Interesting. I wonder if they have adapted the recipe to account for the changes? The underlying reason for vaccination is still valid.
Important point: it is probably not a coincidence that many people in my area are opting out of the vaccination. My son’s doctor has been tracking the incidences and the numbers of people not getting the vaccination. There are stats although specific information might not be available. Anyway, he seemed pretty convinced.
Also, I wonder if the incidences have increased elsewhere or just in my area. I got the impression that it was localized.
BTW, my doctor is from India. :)
Anyway, I’ll mention this reference to him. Thanks.
My daughter is military and the Naval Hospital Dr. told us she would refuse to treat my grandson again if my daughter did not adhere to the vaccine schedule. Upon further discussion, she then proceeded to tell us which immunizations SHE deemed “unnecessary”. lol Well Baby check-ups are simply scheduled opportunities for doctors to make sure parents are vaccinating. We take my grandson to the Dr only when he is seriously ill, which has has been never. He is healthy and thriving.
Failure to develop antibodies against a disease is found in other types of vaccinations. For example, I did not respond to the Hep B series. A son of a friend had measles even though he had been vaccinated.
I stand with you. My feelings exactly!
Making other people sick and putting them at risk of fatal or crippling diseases is not a Libertarian value.
Well, that’s good then. Your friend’s son now has life-long immunity from measles because of having acquired it naturally and never has to have another vaccine for it.
Here is an interesting bit of info from the same article.
“Before childhood vaccination was introduced in the 1940s, pertussis was a major cause of infant death worldwide. Widespread vaccination of children succeeded in reducing illness and death.”
So apparently, the reason for vaccination is sound.
It’s the problem of selecting against a particular strain vs. the others out there. When you fight microbes this way you’ll lose. Every time.
A search on ‘escape mutant’ is interesting:
Our current programs don’t really control the bugs, they just deselect the strains that we vaccinate with. Eventually the bugs win this strategy. Every time.
See my followup.
Penicillin was a Godsend blessing.
Until it stopped working due to overuse.
“Its not the doctors baby. Its hers. She is in complete control of the choices she makes.”
One of the main stories on the news last week was a doctor who took a child from the parents because they didn’t agree on treatment.
Ya. But, to not use it at all because it might be ineffective in the future is foolish.
"Because pertussis outbreaks occur once every 3 to 5 years, it seems to coincide with the vaccine efficacy wearing off after 3 to 5 years. Even with a vaccination, the virus is still highly contagious. For anyone with a weak immune system or those people not in overall good health, it is suggested to get medical advice to avoid complications. For most adolescents and adults, however, a mild case of pertussis can still cause the annoyance of a constant cough and missing school or work but will result in life-time immunity...."
Just understand the escape mutant you end up with for non pandemic diseases in particular might NOT be the one you want to have.
The current circulating non-vaccine strain pertussis mutant has TEN TIMES the mortality and morbidity of the old one. Try for 100 next time?
You can vaccinate your 2m old and 4m old and every one else multiple times with the DTaP and still get the new one. And you'd better pray to whatever diety you worship your infant doesn't get the new one.
I'll quote the relevant line from the CDC abstract:
"Our results underline the importance of Ptx in transmission, suggest that vaccination may select for increased virulence, and indicate ways to control pertussis more effectively."
Would that be the girl with mitochondrial disorder being stolen away by the psychiatric doctor claiming it was all in her and her parent’s head?
Horrible story, but is in no way comparable to vaccinating your infant in multiple visits instead in a single visit.
There’s a lot to be said for breastfeeding and isolation at home for the first few months of a newborn’s life.