Skip to comments.Understanding The Stress Response: It Can Buy You Valuable Seconds
Posted on 03/04/2014 3:49:19 PM PST by Kartographer
Highly trained individuals are much more able to overcome the flight part of the response and stand their ground and fight. Equally, in a hopeless situation theyre training allows them to make the decision to retreat faster than the average person would. This should never be construed as cowardice, it is simply a tactical withdrawal that leaves them alive to fight another day.
Sadly some of those we may call The Golden Horde may also possess the ability to make decisions faster than the average person. Those used to living on their wits will cope better in flight or fight situations than the average man simply because they have been in similar situations more often than Mr Average. Their most common reaction though is to fight, even when if theyd listened to the 10% of their brain not being controlled they would have realized it is unwise to do so.
Its this that marks the difference between the gangs and highly trained individuals
those who are well trained know when to retreat for tactical reasons, gangs do it out of fear, and its this fear that can buy you time and make a hell of a difference to the outcome of a confrontation.
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Speaking of this skill in a shooting situation:
My brothers and I figured out the same rules apply in painballing as you would in lead throwing.
You must work out your communications, verbally, hand signals and eyes and posture before engaging ir being engaged.
Even then, our plans had to be adjusted to new configurations of the opposition and if they learned to perform better as small units.
We treat the experience as if it were real and we generally win against much larger opposition as we have worked out tactics and communications to the point we can overtake men with fancier.paintball guns that basically turn into water hoses as they spray and pray while barricaded .
Man on move almost always lives...all others die.
We can distract those chumps, come up from behind or flank them.
Just as they are engaged on a flank, they are forced to deal with the new threat or game over....at that point communications takes place between team members and they are rushed at pre-planned ingress points
Dead man walking everytime.
We feel in those games that our primary focus is winning, at all costs and feel no obligation to rush anything for “time” as opposed to living and destroying the opposition.
Does no good to win if you’re the last man standing, but it works out that way sometimes, just as in real life.
The man that expects life and things to happen, plans in case it happen to him, stands a much better chance at prevailing ....
These jokes just write themselves...
I found most men aren't willing, they bat an eye, or draw a breath before they shoot. I won't.
Two things that may even the odds a bit are (1).Thousands of rounds fired at targets, animals etc. and (2).Protecting our property and families. In a SHTF scenario the first probably makes me a better shot than the Y&Z's who although they have done their drive by's and other encounters are not hitting the ranges. The second point is while gangbangers may want to retaliate against some slight to their fellow members I will have no qualms about putting my life out there nor wasting anyone coming after my family. Additionally, my wife is a mama bear when it comes to her cubs and a good shot too.
There is nothing honorable in dying against overwhelming, or likely losing, odds. That, in fact, is stupid. Retreat and live another day to come back (with better odds) and settle, should the situation again present itself or need to be resolved for all persons.
True. They are also used to using violence initially while the “civilized man” is more likely to attempt to de-escalate and lose. They have no qualms about not fighting fair and if they are not afraid of consequences when ROL exists it will be far worse WROL.
Growing up in the city, one learned that if you got bit and couldn’t handle it , it’s no shame to run away rather than take a beating.
Once you’ve lost, the extent of the beating is up to the guy that just hit you. And odds are he won’t be feeling charitable.
I have played out scenarios in my mind that might happen outside and inside my house. I know what moves to make and when to make them based on where and what the zombies are doing. When I took the EMT course, I did the same thing as I went through that course - what is the first action to take coming upon a car accident - I had that down pat in my head.
Here’s an example of people in training to become an EMT and their failure to act:
First, I was the oldest in the group (so I had more life experience going through emergencies). The fire department was also at this training session and the damaged car was there. They had the jaws of life and got the driver’s car door open. But the back door was already open, so I went in that way while the rest of the EMT trainees were standing there watching the jaws of life. There was a driver in the car and I held the head of the driver still while the firefighters worked on the door.
As soon as that door was opened, I called one of the trainees to get a neck collar/brace and apply it to this patient while I held the head. That trainee did what I said to get that neck brace fixed properly. I had already looked at the patient to know there was no blood gushing from an artery and he was conscious, so when the neck was braced, I called for firefighters to help me get that person out. They responded immediately to help.
The trainees were gathered around a patient on the ground and I couldn’t believe it but they were putting a neck brace on with the patient face down on the ground. I gave up on that problem and saw the instructor going there to get them to properly turn over the patient with the head being held, for an inspection of “was he breathing?”, “was there arterial bleeding?”, “was he conscious”, and dealing with the neck, etc.
The point is, none of them had given any thought to what they were going to do FIRST, then second, third, etc.. They were waiting for someone to tell them what to do.
The instructor came over to me and said it was good I immediately ask the firemen for the muscle to get the patient out of the car once I had him stable enough to get him out.
Book learning is one thing, but action is another. That EMT medical book is thick and one needs to know what is in there, but if you can’t act to use it, it means nothing.
You can buy the fanciest handgun or rifle or hand grenades or cannon, but they are nothing if the person having those has no idea when to use them - when to act - you cannot just hang around watching and hope someone tells you what to do.
I live alone and I know when and how to act because I have to - certainly every head of a household had better know how to act before it is required. If I had children here, they would also know what to do based on some certain word or few words I would say to them.
I have been trained to go towards the gun fire. Explosions, back away or go forward pedal to the metal.
No matter, when you are ambushed everything sucks.
“There is nothing honorable in dying against overwhelming, or likely losing, odds. That, in fact, is stupid. Retreat and live another day to come back (with better odds) and settle, should the situation again present itself or need to be resolved for all persons.”
That’s all well and good if it’s only you. However, what if it is NOT just you that is threatened, but your family is, as well; and what if one or more of them is not as nimble as you, and cannot “run and live” for another day?
A real man will put himself between the threat and his loved ones, come what may.
tell that to the guys at the alamo. slowed santa ana down enough for others to gather an army and kick his ass.
3 basic survival mechanisms are Fight, Flight, and the often overlooked Freeze response. Classic case of a freeze response was Amanda Knox ‘ s reaction as the Italian police started to pin her for murder... she froze up and didn’t respond “appropriately”... people don’t recognize that response very well... or think it is something else.
Not that any of this has anything to do with the article, but it came to mind.
Wrote it that way. If you’ve ever been shot in the hand or the back you get real good at avoiding it.
That’s cause little Amanda was making it up as she went at that point. The truth was no longer her friend,,, She suddenly needed to think up new responses that might hide what she was involved in.
I never really paid much attention to the case while it was ongoing, but did happen to be channel surfing last summer when she was interviewed I think on CNN.
It was apparent to me that she (I suppose we disagree on this) was not a liar but rather was a bit “damaged” none-the-less. Strange affect... for sure.
I recommend looking up that interview online...