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Dog Kills 13-Year-Old New Jersey Boy, Injures Two Others
Newsone ^ | Mar 4, 2014 | Ruth Manuel-Logan

Posted on 03/04/2014 7:09:54 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/04/2014 7:09:54 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Prayers. We are former bullmastiff owners. They are normally docile, gentle giants.


2 posted on 03/04/2014 7:11:53 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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We had an English Mastiff, and had to put him down at four years old because he was aggressive towards strangers. It was so heartbreaking, but we couldn’t risk him harming anyone.


3 posted on 03/04/2014 7:19:55 PM PST by luckymom (The Son of God became a man that men might become sons of God. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: goodwithagun
According to neighbors, the dog was friendly at first but then his temperament changed for the worse after kids on the block taunted him.

Sounds like some hell kids at work. The article is so poorly written it's hard to make heads or tails of it.

4 posted on 03/04/2014 7:20:04 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: PistolPaknMama

Yep.

Along with rabies, they should check for tick borne disease and hypothyroidism.

The latter two can make a gentle dog “go berserk” without warning.

I’m very curious as to why the surviving kid didn’t want the law called.

Had they just been tormenting the dog?


5 posted on 03/04/2014 7:34:02 PM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Our Sampson was a rescue through the Bullmastiff Association. He knew he had been given a second chance. He was such a lovie. We joked about him being a lap dog!


6 posted on 03/04/2014 7:34:02 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: luckymom

“We had an English Mastiff”
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I learned years ago that purebred dogs had reached the equivalent of the “Peter Principle”. They have been over bred for too many years. Today, nothing beats a mutt.(just my opinion)
Before some of you jump on me, yes, I know that most of you believe that you have the most magnificent purebred dog in the world :P... I do know that there are many exceptions.
Choosing a purebred should involve an extremely diligent search and knowledge of its breeding.


7 posted on 03/04/2014 7:52:05 PM PST by AlexW
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To: nickcarraway

Dreadful. RIP.


8 posted on 03/04/2014 8:07:35 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Salamander
Had they just been tormenting the dog?

That's possible, but it's also possible those kids had a general distrust of the police.

9 posted on 03/04/2014 8:10:29 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: goodwithagun

My daughter has one. She has two small children and he is very good with them. He is a very gentile dog; the only time he gets excited is when he is getting a treat.


10 posted on 03/04/2014 8:58:12 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: nickcarraway

I distrust them too but if ~my~ friend was in the process of being mauled to death by a huge dog who had just bitten *me*, I *think* I’d make an exception.


11 posted on 03/04/2014 9:12:37 PM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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me thinks the kid that got away knows something he wants to keep to himself.


12 posted on 03/04/2014 9:35:52 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: goodwithagun

They’re always gentle and kind, until they’re not.


13 posted on 03/04/2014 9:54:17 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: AlexW

Your post implies quite a lack of understanding of genetics. I have had three Irish wolfhounds, all of which were excellent examples of the breed. The Saga of Nial has a good description of the breed and why they were so valued. My present English Mastiff is a male and he is a frustrated lap dog - 225 pounds is too much for any lap except that of the Jolly Green Giant!

Pure bred dogs will have far more predictable behavior than mongrels. However, when canid behavior indicates aggression toward humans, reasoned and prudent owners ascertain the reason for the new behavior and act accordingly.


14 posted on 03/04/2014 9:55:04 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: AlexW

I agree with you. Our mastiff was about as picture perfect as they come, but had serious aggression issues. After him, we got a “purebred” English Bulldog from a “reputable” breeder. She has had about every possible health problem that bulldogs are prone to- due to over-breeding to meet a “standard”. Before these two, we had two mutts....they were healthy and sane. This bulldog will be our last dog, she’s worn us and our bank account out...


15 posted on 03/04/2014 9:55:12 PM PST by luckymom (The Son of God became a man that men might become sons of God. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: Salamander

Which is why I’d rather be your friend, than that kid’s.


16 posted on 03/04/2014 10:10:15 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: GladesGuru

“Pure bred dogs will have far more predictable behavior than mongrels.”
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I knew that I would be castigated by pure-breed owners, but has nothing to do with my knowledge of genetics.
Yes, pure bred do have particular characteristics. Not all of those characteristics, however, are good.
My comments are not based on any claims to be professional in the dog breeding or training business, but a result of my 69 years of experience with numerous dogs of all types, from Manchesters to Graet Danes. None of the purebred dogs in my life turned out to be as nice or as healthy as the various cur/mongrel dogs that I knew, or adopted.
Yes, I know that each breed has particular characteristics, both good and bad.
My best friend, now deceased, had at least three, maybe four wolfhounds over fifteen years.. They were nice, but certainly too big for my taste, and not noted for longevity.
My largest dog was three-quarter Great Dane, and one quarter St. Bernard. She was quite large, but as sweet as any dog could be. She did, however, have 200 acres to range over.

I now care for 2 wild Philippine dogs, both female. They run free on the beach, and are liked by the neighbors. They are quite friendly and nice to have around. Anyway, my six cats keep them in line.
There are also a number of wild/unowned dogs in the neighborhood, but they never seem to be a problem for anyone. The two dogs that I care for are quite noted by each having a collar.


17 posted on 03/04/2014 11:14:13 PM PST by AlexW
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Dogs are great. Some will kill without human instigation. They’re animals.


18 posted on 03/04/2014 11:25:42 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: AlexW; Salamander

I don’t think any of that has any science behind it....just anecdotal

But I do that too

Any dog can be aggressive....it just takes on a certain urgency when they are bigger ....registered or mongrel

I can anecdotally claim I’m glad chihuahuas are tiny or else it would be mass murder

Likewise I think chows bite a lot.....

And yes pits have a great jaw

But if there as many rotts or mastiffs or Anatolians owned by thuggish folks who abuse their pets they would be known as killers too

I’ve owned ....14-15 dogs in my life...all would bite if provoked

Some even if not

And plenty would kill cats....

You have to watch them with kids...a big guard male will always view kids as under his pack rank

They cannot take his food or toy or tease him like alpha male or female can...I don’t think tease big digs period....why beg trouble...I’ve seen folks bit teasing a dobie even after I warned them.

You have to train the kids just like the dog....


19 posted on 03/04/2014 11:31:12 PM PST by wardaddy (ukraine......aint nobody gonna do nothing but talk and try to score political points)
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To: PistolPaknMama

poorly written is understatement/lol

Kenneth Clodo Santillan (pictured with his dad), 13....

My but they start young in NJ


20 posted on 03/04/2014 11:49:43 PM PST by Nailbiter
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