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Chrysler orders 93 rare, early Vipers to the crusher
Yahoo auto ^ | 03/05/14 | justin Hyde

Posted on 03/06/2014 1:17:21 PM PST by Doogle

The original Dodge Viper revealed in 1992 was a beast of a machine — an attempt by then-Chrysler exec Bob Lutz to revive the spirit of the Shelby Cobra and give Chrysler a world-class sports car. Powered by a massive V-10 with 400 hp, the early Viper's brute force overwhelmed many drivers.

Today, the power that made the Viper a legend appears to be at the heart of an order from Chrysler to dozens of trade schools, demanding the immediate destruction of some 93 early Vipers, including a preproduction model that could likely fetch a couple hundred thousand dollars at auction.

According to The Olympian, the staff of South Puget Sound Community College was told by a Chrysler official that their Viper had to be crushed within two weeks. It's common for automakers to donate cars to automotive shop classes, and in many cases the vehicles in such donations aren't saleable — meaning the company technically still owns the cars. School officials say Chrysler told them two of the 93 early Vipers given to schools had been involved in accidents by joyriding students, creating a major liability for Chrysler.

Of those 93, the Viper at SPSCC stands out. It was the fourth Viper ever built, with a prototype hard top years before Dodge offered a production version. With no emissions controls, and no speed limiter, the V-10 can make 600 hp, and school instructors say it could be worth $250,000 to a museum or private Viper fan.

(Excerpt) Read more at autos.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: buhbye; chrysler; dodge; dodgeviper; fiat; michigan
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buh-bye
1 posted on 03/06/2014 1:17:21 PM PST by Doogle
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To: Chode

ping


2 posted on 03/06/2014 1:18:13 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

i predict a fire at that auto shop that “destroys” that viper.


3 posted on 03/06/2014 1:19:45 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Doogle

4 posted on 03/06/2014 1:20:42 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Doogle

If I held title to the vehicle, I’d tell Chrysler to get stuffed.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 1:22:32 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: Doogle

Jay Leno has “Conservator-ship” of a Chrysler Turbine powered car. It technically belongs to Chrysler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2A5ijU3Ivs


6 posted on 03/06/2014 1:24:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Doogle

School: Seems we took that Viper out in a boat and had this horrific boating accident..............


7 posted on 03/06/2014 1:24:16 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Doogle

How do I go about becoming “conservator” of the SPCCC car? It sounds like it’d make a great track toy.


8 posted on 03/06/2014 1:25:39 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: Doogle

Vipers remain one of the hardest to drive cars ever built. They are not comfortable and in the hands of a novice, they are even dangerous. Early Vipers had no stability control and barely adequate brakes.

If all you wanted to do was go real fast in a real hurry, then yeah. Viper.

But if you wanted a true Sports Car or a fast performance car? Then Vipers were not up for discussion.

That said - It’s stupid to even think of destroying these cars.


9 posted on 03/06/2014 1:26:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Doogle
I think Dodge learned a valuable lesson when biker Billy Lane killed someone with one of their trucks.
10 posted on 03/06/2014 1:27:45 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

“It sounds like it’d make a great track toy.”

Which is EXACTLY why Chrysler wants the cars crushed. One accident with a car that was never supposed to see the road has already cost them millions.

From their viewpoint, it just isn’t worth hundreds of millions in potential liability to keep these cars out there.

Welcome to the Litigious States of America, home of the Litigation Lottery.


11 posted on 03/06/2014 1:28:27 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Doogle
I wonder what the Fiat Viper is going to look like?
12 posted on 03/06/2014 1:28:43 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Doogle
School officials say Chrysler told them two of the 93 early Vipers given to schools had been involved in accidents by joyriding students, creating a major liability for Chrysler.

Somehow this seems like it had an extremely high probability of happening. Can't imagine a better car for hooning than a Viper.

13 posted on 03/06/2014 1:30:23 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Doogle
School officials say Chrysler told them two of the 93 early Vipers given to schools had been involved in accidents by joyriding students, creating a major liability for Chrysler.

Gee, you donate 93 Vipers to high school auto shop classes, and they find that students are joyriding in them? Shocking.

14 posted on 03/06/2014 1:32:46 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Doogle

Since Chrysler still owns them why not take possession of them and place them under their direct control, like in a museum. Crushing them is stupid.


15 posted on 03/06/2014 1:33:06 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was responsible for a number of the Early Vipers, for a short time.

It was damn near impossible to keep the tires from spinning when accelerating. My nightmare was that one of my employees would spin one into a pole, before they were no longer my problem.

Loved the car, but I was glad to see them go, when the event they were in my possession for was over. Luckily, no one wrecked one, not even the VIP’s.


16 posted on 03/06/2014 1:33:08 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Doogle

I’ve heard that the brute power combined with poor handling made the car difficult to drive.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 1:34:15 PM PST by MNnice
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To: Arm_Bears

If you held the title they wouldn’t be telling you to crush it. These are cars they still own.


18 posted on 03/06/2014 1:36:09 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Doogle
We ordered one the first year and then 3 more years in a row and the dealer never could fill the order...even with a 25K Prepayment. So we kept the stealth for many years!

I thought I had missed something...maybe not!

19 posted on 03/06/2014 1:40:07 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: Doogle

....just a bad decade for older cars...first we had Odungo’s assault on the “clunker”...then the Corvette collection...now the vipers...


20 posted on 03/06/2014 1:40:39 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

....just a bad decade for older cars...first we had Odungo’s assault on the “clunker”...then the Corvette collection...now the vipers...


21 posted on 03/06/2014 1:40:39 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

how’d that happen how’d that happen


22 posted on 03/06/2014 1:41:12 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: 3D-JOY

I tried to order a Viper last July. The dealer asked if I already owned one. I said no. He laughed at me and walked away.


23 posted on 03/06/2014 1:44:56 PM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack

There’s 146 on eBay currently including 51 new ones.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Cars-Trucks-/6001/i.html?&LH_ItemCondition=1&makeval=Dodge&modelval=Viper&_nkw=Dodge%20Viper&_trksid=p2050890.m1603


24 posted on 03/06/2014 1:48:26 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Arm_Bears

If you read the story, the schools don’t hold the title, so Chrysler is still liable. They were basically a permanent loan. It sucks, but legally they can’t be sold or driven.


25 posted on 03/06/2014 1:49:04 PM PST by Hugin
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To: IronJack

I miss the days when cars actually had cool names........
Viper
Stingray
Camaro
Barracuda

Now we get Fusion and/or alphabets and numbers.


26 posted on 03/06/2014 1:58:12 PM PST by sheana
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To: sheana

You might enjoy the laugh:

10 worst Chinese car names

http://jalopnik.com/5220208/the-ten-worst-chinese-car-names


27 posted on 03/06/2014 2:02:23 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: sheana

Another one that sort of fits in with what you’re talking about here is “Wildcat.” It sounds pretty cool until you consider the following two things:

1) a wildcat is basically the wild counterpart of an ordinary house cat; and
2) the car the name was applied to is a Buick.


28 posted on 03/06/2014 2:03:11 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: sheana

Agreed. I think it says something about our creativity, among other things.


29 posted on 03/06/2014 2:07:48 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Doogle

If Chrysler still owns the vehicles, let them pick them up and have them crushed. Why should the schools be responsible for this?

Also, these cars are orth millions on the open market. Why not just sell them and take the money?

Chrysler is not making any sense if you take them at their word.

Which means, of course, they have an ulterior motive. And I think the fact that they want these students of automotive engineering to destroy this beautiful American car themselves, instead of Chrysler doing it, is the big fat clue in the middle of the shop.

It’s simply an anti-American ploy by the Rats who own Chrysler. A sacrifice, if you will, for their god of self-revulsion. Liberalism takes constant self-revulsion and hatred of America. What better way to express this is to have American students crush this American supercar themselves - simply because they were told to do it.

Great obedience training in self-destruction and self-loathing, I’d say.


30 posted on 03/06/2014 2:13:26 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: nascarnation

Are there any names as bad as say, the Nissan Homy Super Long or the Mazda Bongo Friendee?


31 posted on 03/06/2014 2:13:49 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: tcrlaf

There was a fellow who lived in Kladno - about 18 miles or so NW of Prague - who had a Dodge Viper. He may have imported it in, I don’t know where he got it from, but this guy shouldn’t have been behind the wheel of anything more substantial than a VW Beetle. He didn’t know how to drive the car; I think it was a little too much vehicle for him, but he’d struck it rich, and I guess he wanted to show off.

After having it less than one year, he totalled it. The last time I saw it, it was sitting in a wrecking yard on the outskirts of town. Damned shame; it was a beautiful car.

High-performance cars aren’t for everyone.


32 posted on 03/06/2014 2:22:10 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
...the car the name was applied to is a Buick.

One of the fastest muscle cars ever made was the Buick GS455 Stage 1. It was faster than a 'vette.

33 posted on 03/06/2014 2:23:03 PM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Doogle

One day soon a generation will arise who will think that the first car was a Prius.


34 posted on 03/06/2014 2:26:39 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Doogle
It's the catbus from "My Neighbor Totoro"
35 posted on 03/06/2014 2:28:24 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

...might work as a golf cart...*smiles*


36 posted on 03/06/2014 2:57:37 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: cripplecreek
I remember the Turbines, particularly I remember mooning over one on exhibit at a shopping center, one Saturday afternoon, in 1964.

As a matter of fact, those cars were the first thing that came to mind when I read this story, because I remembered asking Dad "whatever happened to the Turbines?"

He told me they'd been destroyed, by Chrysler, and years later I read Chrysler had, indeed, destroyed 100 of these special cars.

It bothered me when I was a kid, and it bothers me today. The litigious society, it would seem, at least as far as Chrysler's Turbine experiments, is at least 50 years old, and Leno must pay a "rider" on insurance to keep hold of his museum piece.

It also means Chrysler did not destroy all of them. Aren't there at least five of them stashed away?

37 posted on 03/06/2014 3:03:51 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Doogle

Some of the prototype vehicles made by the manufacturers have trickled out over the years, and some of them were pretty amazing.

I knew one guy who got his hands on what looked like an ordinary 4-door sedan of the early 1960s. What made it special was that it was solid steel, with non-standard reinforcing that made it into a real tank. Oddly enough, its fuel mileage was not very much worse than a production model of the same type. The difference being that the engine was hand crafted, not mass produced, so had no tiny gaps by which a lot of efficiency is lost.

He was not a good driver, though, and got into four accidents in the time he owned the car, while seriously damaging the other cars involved, just scratched his paint.


38 posted on 03/06/2014 3:06:35 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Doogle
that's messed up...
39 posted on 03/06/2014 3:14:42 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Hugin

And the blame goes to....? Well, you-know-who. An entire MULTIIVERSE of government-related trouble awaits those who put a car with no VIN number on a public street.

But, I won’t miss them. Pretty good, albeit rudimentary engine, whose only claim to fame was number of holes and displacement, in a car with the style and sophistication of a shaved bar of used soap.


40 posted on 03/06/2014 3:15:48 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

This isn’t quite the same of that, but a friend of mine owned a ‘64 Fairlane back in the day that had finned drums, a 289 K-code engine, and a modified C4 automatic. It was an adventure every time he needed parts for it, especially for the transmission. After blowing up the tranny using standard C4 parts in it, he converted the car to a 4-speed.

He found out some time after he got rid of it that the car was a homologation special for European stage rally.


41 posted on 03/06/2014 3:27:57 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: Doogle

More corporate weenies taking orders from “counsel” (or the government).


42 posted on 03/06/2014 3:38:02 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

Another one that sort of fits in with what you’re talking about here is “Wildcat.” It sounds pretty cool until you consider the following two things:

1) a wildcat is basically the wild counterpart of an ordinary house cat; and
2) the car the name was applied to is a Buick.


Yeah, but how many other cars can say their engines were used to jump-start SR71 Blackbirds.


43 posted on 03/06/2014 3:50:09 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: smokingfrog
I wonder what the Fiat Viper is going to look like? *****************************

Front engine V12 , huge power , sexy... probably like THIS Fiat ..


44 posted on 03/06/2014 4:15:18 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Doogle

Chrysler doing a “Mash for clunkers” program


45 posted on 03/06/2014 4:18:02 PM PST by Figment
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To: Doogle

Kill all the lawyers, kill them tonight.


46 posted on 03/06/2014 4:20:28 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Doogle

Danger: Lawyers at Work.


47 posted on 03/06/2014 4:24:31 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Neidermeyer

That looks like a Ferrari.


48 posted on 03/06/2014 4:27:07 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: IronJack

All they told us was that the number produced would all be kept by the dealers. in the early years, at least.


49 posted on 03/06/2014 4:53:37 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: Doogle

I never heard of Carroll Shelby wanting to destroy Cobras. Destroying these cars would be almost the equivalent of destroying Cobras. As a car guy I am not happy.


50 posted on 03/06/2014 4:59:47 PM PST by certrtwngnut (')
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