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Female Pilot in 'Shock' After Passenger Leaves Sexist Note
CTV News ^ | Tuesday, March 4, 2014

Posted on 03/06/2014 2:00:13 PM PST by nickcarraway

A routine flight from Calgary to Victoria was marred by a passenger who apparently didn’t appreciate having his flight captained by a woman. CTV Toronto: Pilot shocked by nasty note

Instead of thanking the female pilot, a passenger left an angry note behind on a napkin. Colin D'Mello has the story. Canada AM: Passenger leaves sexist note for pilot

A WestJet passenger has caused an uproar after he left a note for a female pilot that said the cockpit was no place for a woman.

A female WestJet pilot says she was in “shock” after a passenger left behind a note following a weekend flight to say that the cockpit is “no place for a woman.”

Crew cleaning the aircraft found a note, written on a napkin and signed by "David," after passengers deplaned from the Calgary to Victoria flight on Sunday.

In addition to suggesting that women don’t belong at the controls of an airplane, the note also said that “A woman being a mother is the most honour, not as ‘captain.’”

“PS I wish Westjet (sic) could tell me a fair lady is at the helm so I can book another flight,” David went on. On the back of the napkin, David wrote that he was “not impressed,” and signed it “Respectfully in love, David.”

Carey Steacy, who has been a pilot for 17 years and has been flying with WestJet for more than nine, says her first reaction to the note was “shock.”

“It made me feel sad. It was just surprising,” Steacy told CTV Vancouver. “I can’t believe that there’s people that still think that way.”

The female flight attendants and her male co-pilot all had the same reaction. “All of us had our mouths open in shock,” she said. “We didn’t know what to say.” Steacy took to Facebook not only to rebut David’s antiquated view of women, but also his airline terminology: the cockpit is now referred to as the flight deck.

"You were more than welcome to deplane when you heard I was a 'fair lady,' Steacy wrote on Facebook. "You have that right. Funny, we all, us humans, have the same rights in this great free country of ours. Now, back to my most important role, being a mother.” Steacy told CTV that she felt she had to "respond to his opinion. He absolutely has his right to his opinion and I have a right to disagree with it.”

Steacy said she has received widespread support since posting the note and her rebuttal to Facebook.

“I have to think that’s very much an uncommon opinion among the general public,” she said.

Steacy said she has never seen anything like the note left for her, she has heard “the odd comment in jest, usually in jest. “That’s the only time I’ve ever seen something as raw as that.” But she acknowledges that it is still a shock for some people to see a female pilot, because far fewer women than men choose to pursue a flying career.

“Almost every day people I find are a little bit surprised, and I think it’s just because women aren’t enrolling in flight schools -- not because they’re not being hired, but because they’re not enrolling in it,” Steacy said.

“Either it’s because they don’t think they can or they have been told that it’s not for women or that they can’t do it. And I just hope that that mindset can change, like it has in a lot of professions.”

As for David’s comment about motherhood being the highest honour, Steacy said she agrees.

“I have two beautiful children, it is the highest honour.”


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I think someone is being trolled.

1 posted on 03/06/2014 2:00:13 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Female Pilot in 'Shock'

"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen cockpit!"

2 posted on 03/06/2014 2:03:47 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: nickcarraway
The comment about "honor" makes me think this was a Muslim.

That being said, the cockpit is not place for a hypersensitive whiner reqardless of gender.

3 posted on 03/06/2014 2:04:06 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: nickcarraway

If someone can be sent into “shock” by a stupid note of this nature, they probably shouldn’t be trusted to pilot a commercial airliner.


4 posted on 03/06/2014 2:04:57 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: nickcarraway

Shocked? Really?

If she is confident and competent, she just thinks “F-You buddy” and throws away the napkin and never even think about the incident again.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 2:05:15 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: nickcarraway

I vote HOAX. She posted the note on Facebook. Dead giveaway.


6 posted on 03/06/2014 2:06:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: 5thGenTexan

Nice try. So you actually now believe that the word, “honor,” is only used by Muslims?


7 posted on 03/06/2014 2:06:20 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: 5thGenTexan

Judging from the handwriting, I think you’ve nailed it...

The dot over the “e” is kind of a giveaway


8 posted on 03/06/2014 2:06:59 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: 5thGenTexan

A Muslim named ‘David’?


9 posted on 03/06/2014 2:07:47 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: nickcarraway

What first time? Oh yes, Oh btw ... Oh I’m a virgin airline.


10 posted on 03/06/2014 2:07:47 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: BwanaNdege

If a little thing like that puts her into shock then she shouldn’t be flying.


11 posted on 03/06/2014 2:09:04 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: DariusBane

This could be a hoax.

Remember the lesbians who put anti-homosexual graffiti on their own house, to make a statement of how society is homophobic??

Remember the nooses planted by blacks, who were making a political statement that society is racist?


12 posted on 03/06/2014 2:09:10 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego (t)
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To: 5thGenTexan

I completely agree. Methinks David might be the anglicized version of Daoud.


13 posted on 03/06/2014 2:09:44 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal (Go, Cruz! Go!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Or....`Daoud’?


14 posted on 03/06/2014 2:10:05 PM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: nickcarraway

In the sixties my sister was stationed at a training base (As I recall, in Texas.) A flight of Muslim princes and high born took off with a male controller. When they returned the controller was a woman. They all turned off their radios. Several planes were damaged. The commander was furious. As I recall, nothing happened to them because they were all important men. (I want to say they were Kuwaiti or Saudi, but it’s been too long for certainty.)


15 posted on 03/06/2014 2:10:28 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: nickcarraway

An ‘unliberated’ pioneer woman leading a covered wagon across Canada would have either punched the guy or laughed it off. Modern liberated women practically go into fainting spells.


16 posted on 03/06/2014 2:10:34 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: nickcarraway

This thread isn’t quite fully useful yet.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 2:10:51 PM PST by OKSooner ("As the riders went on by him, he heard one call his name...")
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To: nickcarraway; 5thGenTexan

Don’t the Canadians, like the Brits and Aussies, etc. spell it “honour” not “honor?” I’m guessing we’ll find that the woman pilot wrote this herself, just as so many lesbians and blacks have done in the past.


18 posted on 03/06/2014 2:10:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: DariusBane

That is what I’d do. I know because I’ve done it. I’ve thrown people out of my lab for pissing me off, just like a wadded up scrap of paper.


19 posted on 03/06/2014 2:11:15 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: nickcarraway

If the crew is in shock that there are idiots in the world maybe they aren’t fit to staff an airplane.


20 posted on 03/06/2014 2:11:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: nickcarraway

“In shock”?Over a note?Jeez,it’s not like somebody shot her dog.


21 posted on 03/06/2014 2:12:47 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Vigilanteman

My thoughts also.


22 posted on 03/06/2014 2:13:36 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: nickcarraway

What we invariably find in these cases is that the victim is usually the person who wrote the note.

That being said, I certainly would not want any person who would be “shocked” by a silly note to be in charge of navigating a vessel with me or my family on board. Anyone with that thin of a skin has no business being the pilot of an airship.


23 posted on 03/06/2014 2:13:43 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: OKSooner; Lazamataz

The picture you’re looking for was posted on another thread about this. Guilty as heck, but Laz would hit it.


24 posted on 03/06/2014 2:14:03 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: nickcarraway

Gasp! Not the note! Anything but the sexist note!


25 posted on 03/06/2014 2:15:51 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Liberty in our Lifetime - WWW.FreeStateProject.org)
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To: Ouderkirk

Which dot?


26 posted on 03/06/2014 2:15:56 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: OKSooner

Thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3130369/posts

Bright side: It appears she’s a natural blonde. Downside: Needs lips. Even a little would be nice.


27 posted on 03/06/2014 2:18:04 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: RKBA Democrat

Yes! The note! Posted on Facebook, no less!!!

(GD Hoax)


28 posted on 03/06/2014 2:18:54 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: nickcarraway

I can’t believe the cleaning crew gave it to her. I would have just thrown it away after making an editorial comment about the writer. Not worth the bandwidth to pass along some idiot’s ill will to others.


29 posted on 03/06/2014 2:19:43 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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To: nickcarraway
Even if this were real, I have three words of advice for this woman:


30 posted on 03/06/2014 2:19:48 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: nickcarraway

The most important thing to note in this story is that the napkin was Green Seal Certified.

I guess that makes up for the 20,000 pounds of carbon that the airplane leaves in the stratosphere every day.


31 posted on 03/06/2014 2:21:29 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: nickcarraway

This is such a non-story if even true. Big whup! as Rush would say.


32 posted on 03/06/2014 2:21:45 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Vigilanteman
If someone can be sent into “shock” by a stupid note of this nature, they probably shouldn’t be trusted to pilot a commercial airliner.

My thoughts exactly. The things that make people SHOCKED and OUTRAGED and OFFENDED these days is laughable.

Put on your big-girl pants, sweetheart, and move on.

33 posted on 03/06/2014 2:22:03 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: nickcarraway

So sick of these bullchit fake notes on TIPS and NAPKINS and the companies are always supposed to pay.


34 posted on 03/06/2014 2:22:40 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: OKSooner

35 posted on 03/06/2014 2:23:28 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: nickcarraway

How hard is it to check the passenger manifest for “David” and identify the guy?

Instead of all of this fainting over the note?


36 posted on 03/06/2014 2:23:38 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: BwanaNdege

If she is so “sensitive” as to be “in shock” just maybe she shouldn’t be piloting an airplane full of passengers.


37 posted on 03/06/2014 2:24:49 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don’t the Canadians, like the Brits and Aussies, etc. spell it “honour” not “honor?”

I, too, caught that, although there's a movement in Canada to do swap British spelling with American.

38 posted on 03/06/2014 2:25:36 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: BwanaNdege

I’m not sure about this, but in one of the “Airplane” movies, the stewardess walks into the cockpit and says to the pilot, played by actor George Kennedy, “You pilots are such MEN!”

He replies, “That’s why they call it a ‘cockpit!”


39 posted on 03/06/2014 2:27:42 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: nickcarraway
Totally off topic but since this thread is drawing a lot of interest, I'll go ahead and ask it.

In what cultures is normal for passengers to applaud the crew for landing the plane? I've encountered this frequently when traveling to South America and my recollection is that it also happened on Alitalia flights into Rome and Milan. I don't ever remember applause breaking out upon landing on a flight where the majority of passengers were American or British.

40 posted on 03/06/2014 2:28:00 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: hal ogen

Excellent question. Answer: NO! If she is so sensitive she has major personality disorders that says she should never be in charge of an aircraft.


41 posted on 03/06/2014 2:31:22 PM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: nickcarraway
Of course not. But it's use in this context, ie a woman's "place", coupled with the Muslim belief in "honor killing" I think it is a reasonable theory.

Why the jab at me? I think others got my meaning and seem to understand the correlation.

42 posted on 03/06/2014 2:34:38 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: 5thGenTexan

Why did the writer feel the need to change the spelling of honor (American) to honour (British)? Did he not know that both are correct.


43 posted on 03/06/2014 2:45:31 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: nickcarraway

Maybe she’s shocked that some guy decided to judge her for proudly abandoning her children daily for money.


44 posted on 03/06/2014 2:45:36 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: re_nortex

Happens on every flight that lands in Israel, too.


45 posted on 03/06/2014 2:45:36 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Reminds me of the lesbian waitress who claimed she received an anti-Lez message from a customer on a credit card receipt.


46 posted on 03/06/2014 2:47:12 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: nickcarraway

This is so not news. Meanwhile our freedoms in this country are falling apart and she surely does not have a clue about that.


47 posted on 03/06/2014 2:51:10 PM PST by Revel
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To: nickcarraway

The best response from her would be “what difference does it make”


48 posted on 03/06/2014 2:51:14 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: luvbach1

No idea. But the phrase “A woman being a mother is the most honor” also hints at English as a second language to me.


49 posted on 03/06/2014 2:52:07 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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A woman being a mother is the most honor” also hints at English as a second language to me.

Dead on. It's English-as-a-second-language awkward. However, could be a semi-literate American.

50 posted on 03/06/2014 3:04:01 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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