Posted on 03/07/2014 6:49:48 PM PST by Kartographer
I have people that I can call to get a script if I need one.
I also have a few months of medicine in stock as well as some antibiotics etc.
However, in addition to supplies on hand, I always try to figure out a way to provide necessities independent of suppliers. Self sufficient as much as possible.
Their message was simple:
“Enough! We need a new government.”
Cipro is the only one I can use. If I had to take it all the time that could be a problem but I don’t expect that would be the case with it. If I’m sick enough to have to have an antibiotic, I’ll take it. I am 80 and that’s a “bit” over 60. :o)
Pet stores and vet clinics for the same antibiotics for people, just different external packaging.
“the hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies will remain stocked and the banks will maintain stocks of other useful commodities.”
No, hospitals have no large supply of anything - they work on the same method as other stores such as Walmart. I’ll put an article on here tomorrow about where our medicines come from. Hospitals would run out in a week and pharmacies won’t have any, either. Banks will close.
“If you have meds that need refrigeration you also need electrical power. In a SHTF situation that may be dicey.”
Cipro doesn’t need refrigeration but it does last longer if it is refrigerated.
Well, the probability over all age groups is roughly the same as getting colorectal cancer, if that’s any consolation. But the problem has been noted after just a handful of doses, and when it happens it’s disabling.
If you have a true allergy to penicillan-class antibiotics you can’t take amoxicillan, etc., or the cephalosporins, but can take the floxins as you know, tetracycline, and azithromycin, among others.
IMO, the vast majority of us good people are utterly seething with hate and discontent, just below the surface. I have become convinced, after watching left wing liberal socialist pinko commie geeks, for years, that there is only one method left that will bring relief. I don't how many months or years it will be till 212 degrees is reached, but I am convinced it will be reached. It is also possible that the government might manufacture a Reichstag moment as well, and it will be ON.
And a week after that, western civilization would collapse and a week after that, the chronically ill would start dieing off.
It all depends on what SHTF scenario you are talking about though.
Ezekiel Emanuel sees this as a good way to get rid of surplus population
I’d bet he is taking notes
if you live in a rural/farming area, stores like Tractor Supply etc. sell antibiotics like penicillin. Getting needles can be a problem but vet catalogs sell them. lots of different medicines that farmers use are also fine for humans. Its amount goes by body weight that is listed with the meds.
In a real hit the fan event, it would be a toss up which would be emptied first, grocery stores or pharmacies.
Thank you for the ping!!!!
If the shtf is from natural causes or external attack and we have trusted leadership, we will be able to work together with the “system”.
If the shtf is from something like our current “system”, I hope the counterattacks are correctly targeted and resourses not wasted on Zombies.
Putin has clearly demonstrated they are paper tigers. I believe as soon as the proper terrorist are targeted and eliminated by patriots near them, the shtf would be quickly resolved.
The secret to eliminating Zombies is to destroy what is motivating and providing support to the Zombies. Not wasting resources on the Zombies themselves.
Thanks for the pings!
There’s always eminent domain and punitive taxation. What about confiscation at death if a person rec’d any benefits?
INSTEAD OF, “DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILDREN ARE”?
IT’S “DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR MEDICINES ARE?”
You’re probably like I was, would hear or read something about medicines being made in foreign countries and you dismissed it because your prescriptions always got filled at the drug store and that was that.
Within the past six or seven months, I had three instances when they were not totally filled at Walgreens drug store, and one that wasn’t filled FOR A MONTH. The first time it wasn’t bad, was a Thursday and they would have the medicine that coming Monday and I had enough to get me to Monday. The next time, a different medicine, and it would be a week before they got it. Again, I had enough to get me to that date, but I wondered why it would take a week.
The next time, this past April, a different medicine, they put their last two pills in a bottle for me and said they wouldn’t have any more FOR A MONTH. Stop right there – this got my attention really fast and meant something and maybe those other two times meant something and I didn’t click to those when they happened as they were resolved fairly quickly.
I’ve been thinking on that since then. I remembered a number of years ago, I read something about insulin being produced in only one overseas country and none being produced here, but I didn’t need insulin, so I ignored it. Insulin was available to buy here, so no big deal. Now, it’s produced in more than one country, but none produced here that I could find. There is a reason for this.
A couple of days ago, I decided to find out “where our medicines are”. It took many hours over two days to trace medicine and to find credible sources to believe. I copied information as I would find it and I did this over and over. I didn’t copy anything someone said on a blog, because that is not credible enough. I say that so you will know I was looking for truth, not opinion.
Here is an interesting tidbit – The FDA considers the country of origin of a drug to be confidential information. I believe that to be true, because I couldn’t find the country of origin of a drug (except insulin) and I searched to do that.
I could sum this all up with this statement: “More than 80 percent of the active ingredients for drugs sold in the United States are made abroad, …mostly in facilities in China and India that are rarely visited by government inspectors, who sometimes cannot even find the plants.”
That 80% includes brand names. That was a shock as I thought brand names would be made here in the good old USA in swell, clean, hygienic, drug company plants that developed these brand names. We can also add more percentage to that 80% by adding Carolina, Puerto Rico, for manufacturing drugs for our country (an Eli Lilly large plant is there manufacturing drugs including insulin). Also, Eli Lilly has a new facility in China and their emphasis is insulin.
How did this over 80% of meds made out of our country happen?
In the extreme early days of our country, everything we ate and used was made locally. Meat animals were grown locally or shot in the forests. We did import tea from England but our patriots dumped that in the ocean one day. Before glass companies started up in New England, our dishware for the colonies were brought from England. Glass companies began early on the east coast to provide what the settlers needed. I know about early glass and china because my house is full of it and learning the history was part of that collecting.
As advancements were made in travel, food and products began to be carried to other areas. Products and food began to be shipped even to other countries. Today, you go to the grocery and see a fresh pineapple with a tag from Hawaii.
Companies were listed on the stock exchanges and making profit for stockholders became the emphasis for companies. After a period of time, communication from country to country was easier, and companies began to make spreadsheets of profits available in this country using our workers, and profits available if they moved their manufacturing to other countries as they would pay employees there less money, meaning more profit. Today, with the internet and other means, companies can keep up with their overseas locations almost as if they were there.
Profit is why your medicines are made in foreign countries.
That is where our medicines are, that is where they originate – that is brand names, generics, and over the counter meds – almost everything. If something such as regional or world war, or loss of power, or collapse of currency, caused China and/or India and/or Puerto Rico, to stop exporting to us, millions of people here would die without their heart meds, blood pressure meds, antibiotics, the list goes on. In this case, it’s not trucks stopping, it’s ships not getting to our country in the first place for whatever reason.
Insulin:
Two companies produce almost all insulin – Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk (Novo Nordisk headquarters is in Denmark – two offices in the US, can’t find any production facilities in US – the company is in 75 countries). Your insulin is made in foreign countries. As of last year, Lilly also opened a large manufacturing plant in Puerto Rico and insulin also comes from there. For interest, take a look at Eli Lilly from their website:
“We are comprised of more than 20 countries, including the United States and Japan, the world’s two largest pharmaceutical markets – along with Australia, Canada and Europe (known as the ACE region).”
“A heritage more than 135 years strong: company founded on May 10, 1876
Headquarters located in Indianapolis, Indiana, U.S.A.
Approximately 38,000 employees worldwide
More than 7,400 employees engaged in research and development
Clinical research conducted in more than 55 countries
Research and development facilities located in eight countries
Manufacturing plants located in 13 countries
Products marketed in 125 countries”
Note manufacturing plants are located in 13 countries and I could not find one of those manufacturing plants in the USA.
Drug Safety:
I read reports that the FDA doesn’t have the manpower to go overseas often to inspect plants. I read instances where some of our drugs were contaminated in Chinese plants and Americans died due to that before the contamination was discovered.
I take 5 little pills in the morning after I eat and take another 5 little pills at night. I don’t take pills unless it is necessary, and I don’t want to be without these 10 small pills. Based on my research, they all have to come from overseas since I can’t find any made here. Also, based on my research, I wonder if one or more is contaminated? If you read the laws on inspecting drugs and read the info. put out by the FDA, your medicines are totally safe because they are inspected for quality control, etc. My comment to that is, “hogwash”. They make infrequent trips overseas to inspect but they don’t have their inspector there in all these plants all the time.
How to have drugs for a year stored:
The first time I went to my new doctor, I told him some things about myself so we could get acquainted. I said I was a “prepper”. He said, “What is a prepper?” I told him and he laughed and said, “I’ll give you a prescription for a year’s worth of medicine.”
If you ask your doctor for a prescription for a year’s worth of medicine, he/she can do that. Here is the problem: If you have insurance and use it, they aren’t going to approve paying for more than three months medicine at a time. That doesn’t mean you can’t get the medicine for that next nine months. What it means is, you have to pay the total cost of the drugs when you don’t use insurance. Not using insurance, and having the prescription, you can buy the whole nine months’ worth at one time.
Consider your medicines – which ones are critical to keep your heart beating and your blood pressure low enough you don’t have a stroke? We’re talking life and death here – which ones are critical to stay alive? Consider buying those for that nine months not using your insurance. If you can’t come up with that much money at one time, maybe you could buy two or three months at a time each month until you have all of it.
To have the max amount of meds in your house right now using insurance:
Re-fill your three month prescriptions (using insurance as usual), as soon as insurance allows - not when you have just a few pills left. That way you will have more pills available all the time.
If you are like me, I can’t keep up with when each med can be refilled. I am signed up on line with my Walgreens, and as soon as a med can be refilled, it is automatically refilled and waiting for me to pick it up. Consider doing this with your drug store if you want automatic refill as soon as it can be processed.
It is regretful our medicines are not made in this country. That is one product, one life and death product, that, in my mind, should have never left this country so it would be available and safe - even if it meant less profit.
I wouldn't say I was allergic to anything unless it was true. My entire body broke out in a rash due to penicillin and I was told never to take it again as it would be much worse the next time - parts of my skin would come off. My medical record says never to give me that and never to give me iodine.
I'm severely allergic to iodine. I have a permanent scar with no coloring in it (it ate the pigment in the skin) as in a hospital, I was given an iodine test under the skin and that skin came off and the iodine kept eating through layers of muscle and it had to heal from the bottom up. I wore a band aide over that place until it healed because it looked like I was a junky shooting up at that place. My medical record also says never to give me iodine.
I had cataract surgery a couple of years ago, and iodine is used to prepare the eye area for that surgery. The surgeon used something other than iodine to sterilize that area. I can't imagine what would have happened if iodine was used in my eye area.
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Revelation 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
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