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9 Reasons Why Public Schools Wallow In Mediocrity
American Thinker ^ | 3/9/2014 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 03/09/2014 7:14:13 AM PDT by Sioux-san

The nine main problems and a relevant link for each:

1) Bad Reading Methods. Whole word (also known as sight-words, Dolch words, and many other aliases) is an 85-year flop that never worked. Children are told to memorize words as graphic designs. For most children, that’s effectively the end of literacy. (Learn about phonics.)

2) Inane Math Instruction. New Math and Reform Math mix advanced concepts with elementary arithmetic, guaranteeing that children are confused and make little progress. Inefficient methods are taught. The rhetoric is that children are learning the meaning behind the numbers. For young children, this is an absurd notion. How many adults know the “meaning" behind 5+2 = 7? (Innumeracy by design.)

3) Contempt For Knowledge. Everywhere in the public schools, we hear this whine: “Why would children need to know THAT?” Many schools scorn the very notion that there is anything in particular the children need to know, even such basics as who was George Washington and how many ounces are in a pound. (Learning stuff is valuable. )

4) Inefficient Teaching Methods. Constructivism is the main handicap in the public schools. This method requires that teachers stop teaching; they must stand passively aside. Meanwhile children are supposed to figure out everything for themselves. This will be a slow and incoherent process. (How constructivism hurts minorities.)......

Here’s how you know that Common Core is up to no good. It does not try to fix any of these problems. Rather, Common Core embraces them all and recycles them into supposedly new standards.

Bruce Deitrick Price explains education theories and methods on his site Improve-Education.org.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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Like all bad institutions, Education cannot be fixed from within...get your precious babies out of their clutches. Find a legislator with the guts to push legislation for your tax money to serve your child and not the Dewey Dupes.
1 posted on 03/09/2014 7:14:13 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Mediocrity is being kind. Way worse that that, methinks.


2 posted on 03/09/2014 7:15:14 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

To fix public education, fix the families of students attending public schools.


3 posted on 03/09/2014 7:15:27 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Sioux-san

I can narrow it down to one reason...Government Control!


4 posted on 03/09/2014 7:17:12 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Sioux-san

Nine reasons?

NEA^9


5 posted on 03/09/2014 7:17:44 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Sioux-san

Number 10: Teacher Unions. (Actually my number 1)


6 posted on 03/09/2014 7:17:57 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: Sioux-san
There's one very important thing that needs to be remembered about this issue: We've deliberately blurred the distinction between education and schools.

All this talk about "why public schools wallow in mediocrity" is misleading. Public schools wallow in mediocrity because they are mediocre by design.

7 posted on 03/09/2014 7:19:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Sioux-san
Why Public Schools Wallow In Mediocrity
Back in the day, I would always ask whatever school official I was meeting with regarding "new and improved" teaching methods - Never got more that some BS psychobabble as an answer.
8 posted on 03/09/2014 7:23:54 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Sioux-san
Ah, but you overlook the great Progressive seeds being planted in the minds of the next generation. For example, children are taught that having even a PICTURE of a gun is a completely inappropriate behaviour warranting the most punitive consequences including a march to the principal's office and possible expulsion. And this is for the youngest and most impressionable wards of the government schools.

What chance does the Second Amendment have once the products of this indoctrination machine are the low information voting majority?

9 posted on 03/09/2014 7:29:36 AM PDT by trek
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To: Sioux-san

How about the gubmint keep their fangs out of education? There is no “right” to education, just like there is no right to anything but life and liberty. It is your own responsibility to educate your progeny, not mine or anybody else’s. Besides, it is about competition — if your children are educated, then they will compete against mine in the future; so, why should I (be forced to) spend my money on yours and why should you on mine? It is insane. Besides, if only select few are truly educated, then the value of education will be high and things matter.

When every freak holds a degree, what is the point of having education?


10 posted on 03/09/2014 7:30:30 AM PDT by sagar
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To: Sioux-san

There is only one - unions


11 posted on 03/09/2014 7:34:41 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: oh8eleven

Environmental Nazism, Socialism, Global Warming, Diversity and the list continues. Time for instruction that takes up huge hours throughout a child’s education, with one or more underlined in every class.


12 posted on 03/09/2014 7:35:35 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Take out the trash)
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To: Sioux-san

Only 1 reason is needed to be known: Schools are run by liberals.


13 posted on 03/09/2014 7:35:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Sioux-san

Social ambivalence instead of standards. There is no right or wrong. Johnny has no daddy, two mommies twelve step siblings...”what difference does it make” so long as he has a village?


14 posted on 03/09/2014 7:37:18 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Sioux-san

I can’t believe that the whole word reading method has not been discarded as ineffective decades ago. My older brother and sister (now in their 70s) were taught that way and according to my mother struggled with reading. I attended the same school, but was taught phonics. My children fortunately had a very good first grade teacher who watered down the whole word method again in vogue and taught them phonics. However the whole word method is still being used. Can’t someone in the education establishment finally acknowledge that phonics works best instead of continuing to cripple generations of people with poor reading skills?


15 posted on 03/09/2014 7:47:43 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Sioux-san

Busing city trash out to all the suburban schools.


16 posted on 03/09/2014 7:47:45 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Sioux-san

Whole word (also known as sight-words, Dolch words, and many other aliases) is an 85-year flop that never worked.

And yet...there it is, in the schools, STILL being used without causing the vast majority of people involved to wonder: WHY!!?


17 posted on 03/09/2014 7:51:50 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: fso301

If you want to fix family values via demographics then accept immigrants only from Asia. Strong family values and strong appreciation for education and respect for teachers. Had a buddy of mine in Brooklyn NY. Worked in a poor school initially mixed black and white in the 1970’s. Most of the students had an attitude, no respect for discipline. All rebellious and parents were weak. Then in the late 1990’s demographic change, Asian immigrants were moving in. Koreans and Chinese. Most were poor and barely speak English, but most had parents that made their kids understand that education is important and good grades in school meant chance to go to college. It was like night and day. The school has one of the lowest spendings per student, but the Asians excel. The only threat to discipline was Asian youth gangs. Outside of that the kids were well behaved. Parents will kick their butts if the teacher complained about the kid. By the time these Asian kids left HS they can read English, do math and enroll in college. The only area they did not do well was verbal English.
Tony Brown a black journalist and talk show host once compared the failing grades blacks and whites shared compared to Asians, he joked about busing, “bus my kids to Chinatown”.


18 posted on 03/09/2014 7:56:17 AM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: Sioux-san

Parents who value education and discipline are an important factor. I have heard many a teacher, public or private, state “the nut doesn’t fall too far from the tree”. This applies to the social behaviour as well as the aptitude of the student. I could go on but I think you can see the connection.


19 posted on 03/09/2014 8:13:39 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Sioux-san
Einstein's definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result. The feral-government/teachers-union criminal-complex has been running the public education system for over forty years. Time to kick them out.


20 posted on 03/09/2014 8:15:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: Texicanus
“the nut doesn’t fall too far from the tree”.
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If the parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were schooled in the government's godless SS schools ( single-payer and socialist-entitlement K-12 schools) what type of nut is eventually produced?

( Just wondering.)

Hm....Probably parents who think their godless, single-payer, and socialist-entitlement SS school was good.

21 posted on 03/09/2014 8:19:34 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: fso301

To fix public education,
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Schools that are single-payer, socialist-entitlement, GODLESS, and with attendance **forced** and paid for through threat of police and court action CAN NOT BE FIXED.

( Yeah, I am shouting but I shouldn’t have to shout out the obvious.)


22 posted on 03/09/2014 8:22:37 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hey, they don’t call them low information voters for nothing. It ain’t their money so don’t try to educate them with facts.


23 posted on 03/09/2014 8:23:46 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: CodeToad
Only 1 reason is needed to be known: Schools are run by liberals.
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Single-payer, compulsory-funded, compulsory-use, and socialist-entitlement schooling has **always** been run by liberals. It was a Prog idea in the 1800s. Progs have always controlled teacher training and curriculum development. The Progs have always been pushing the envelope of society's morals and ethics.

Fundamentally, SS schooling ( single-payer and socialist-entitlement schooling) can not be fixed precisely because it is built upon a foundation of socialism! In just one to three generations of SS schooling the nation voted in Franklin D. Roosevelt!

Nearly every teacher in this nation ( even in private schools) was trained by godless Marxists in Marxist-run colleges and universities. Even if the teacher is not a Marxist, the training does leak through into the godless classroom.

Also....Please remember that government K-12 schooling was the nation's first single-payer and socialist-entitlement program. At its best it was merely generically lukewarm in its Protestant worldview. Since the 1960s they have been utterly godless.

24 posted on 03/09/2014 8:32:19 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Sioux-san
Bruce Deitrick Price is a consist IDIOT. ( Yeah! I am shouting.)

The fundamental reason government schooling fails is that it is godless SS schooling ( single-payer and socialist-entitlement) schooling. It is a abominable institution that compels attendance and funding through threat of police and court action. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip.)

25 posted on 03/09/2014 8:36:08 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Sioux-san

That should be “consistent”.

I would certain appreciate it if FR would get an edit option.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 8:37:17 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Sioux-san

Government control. Department of Education should be eliminated. The government is controlled by fools so what would one expect the outcome to be? Disaster.


27 posted on 03/09/2014 8:44:39 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Alberta's Child

That was the last point the author made at the end of the article - this was all intentional. The University Schools of Education churn out the socialists who run the govt. schools and most the private schools, too.


28 posted on 03/09/2014 8:48:45 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

A couple of years (IIRC) ago I read that a major US corporation stated that new hires coming out of our school systems were NOT un-educated. They were un-educable!!

Hopeless, and public school spends approximately $300,000 per student for 12 years of school.


29 posted on 03/09/2014 8:49:13 AM PDT by Thom Pain (If you like your country you can keep it. Period.)
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To: Texicanus

BTW, one of my kids (son) was street smart and skilled (hands on type) but did not fair well (flunked out) in college. The other (daughter) excelled and has several degrees and near perfect GPA to prove it. Both are professionals in their respective fields and doing well. Son always asks daughter to compute his income tax when she does hers (because of her finance and accounting background). Daughter is always amazed that son earns more than her. Son is always amazed he cons her into doing his tax returns for free.

Which is to say, parents should know that each child is unique and has the potential to excel if encouraged to obtain the right education. One educational model does not fit all.


30 posted on 03/09/2014 8:58:59 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: wintertime

I got your point - You don’t think much of the author (first time I have ever read any of his stuff). Bottomline is parents for the last couple of generations are a product of the System. Some may know something is wrong, but refuse to do anything serious to rectify the situation. Their children’s education is their sole responsibility, but they are letting the Govt. serve as dangerous babysitters who brainwash children into compliant fools — happy to take govt. handouts and/or sit on his/her arse for the rest of his/her life in a classroom or mom/dad’s basement because the decent jobs just aren’t there. People are starting to catch on, but my, we are slow learners and even slower responders.


31 posted on 03/09/2014 9:03:40 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Thom Pain

I have noticed that about a lot of the ‘younger generation’ — no use whatsoever for anything us old fogies can tell them - despite poor performance and remedial training, they fully expect to get good reviews and lots of raises. If they don’t, the company is in for some real hissy fits.


32 posted on 03/09/2014 9:09:12 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Fee
If you want to fix family values via demographics then accept immigrants only from Asia.

True but as they Americanize, what do you do about the pattern of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrant children? What we are seeing in the education system is a direct result of the culture wars. Barely literate 18 year olds will vote Democratic.

33 posted on 03/09/2014 9:10:26 AM PDT by fso301
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To: wintertime
Schools that are single-payer, socialist-entitlement, GODLESS, and with attendance **forced** and paid for through threat of police and court action CAN NOT BE FIXED

Why then do Asian students excel?

34 posted on 03/09/2014 9:13:10 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Sioux-san

I have attended both religious schools and public schools as have my children. I have yet to find a bad one. A teacher or two, yes, but overall, they were quite able to teach those who wanted to learn.


35 posted on 03/09/2014 9:17:47 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Time to kick them out.
Agree they keep passing the uneducated for the sake of funding.


36 posted on 03/09/2014 9:23:09 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Sioux-san

The best antidote against liberal ideology begins at home around the dinner table. Educate your kids and answer their questions. Don’t depend on the school system, whether private or public, to supply all the answers.

If they have no questions, something is very wrong and needs to be researched. If the questions are too political or sexual for their age level or never about academics, something is out of balance. Find out what’s going on and get involved. Get them out of that school and its environment.

I know it’s easier said than done, but it can be done. Like child predators, liberals want your children. Don’t let them have them.

BTW, grand parents should get involved since we are footing the bills in many cases, if you get my drift.


37 posted on 03/09/2014 9:28:29 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Sioux-san
My mom and grandparents used to read to me and with me at night and on weekends. A teacher is only with your child a certain amount of time each day and her attention is divided amongst 25-35 kids. If kids don't read except when they are in school (and then only certain classes) that is very little exposure to written words. It's not enough for them to get good at it.

I can't understand parents complaining that their child isn't a good reader. You are the parent. You'd better take up the slack because you brought that kid into this world, you are with them for 18 years, you are the one who is there at night, you are the one who has only a few kids around, not a huge group of them, you are the one who should be making sure that child keeps up.

38 posted on 03/09/2014 10:07:03 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: stocksthatgoup

Get back to traditional teaching-—Not a quick fix. The Union is a big part of the problems—but the real problem is how teachers are taught to teach.


39 posted on 03/09/2014 10:26:20 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Texicanus
Parents who value education and discipline are an important factor. I have heard many a teacher, public or private, state “the nut doesn’t fall too far from the tree”. This applies to the social behaviour as well as the aptitude of the student. I could go on but I think you can see the connection.

That's half the reason why Catholic schools are so good. Even for scholarship kids the parents have to pay a share of the tuition. So now they have 1) looked for a better school for their kid and 2) have put some financial "skin" in the game, so they are invested in their child's success.

40 posted on 03/09/2014 10:45:30 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: wintertime
Single-payer, compulsory-funded, compulsory-use, and socialist-entitlement schooling has **always** been run by liberals. It was a Prog idea in the 1800s.

It was largely a scheme to turn Catholic kids into protestants.

41 posted on 03/09/2014 10:49:01 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: fso301
Why then do Asian students excel?

Because their parents don't expect them to learn solely in the classroom.

42 posted on 03/09/2014 10:52:50 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: fso301

The Asian students excel because they are expected to excel.


43 posted on 03/09/2014 10:58:37 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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Because their parents don't expect them to learn solely in the classroom.

That was my original point to a poster who seems to be of the opinion that letting kids go, or not go to whatever their parent considers to be a school is a preferable means of ensuring that everyone has a baseline education

44 posted on 03/09/2014 11:11:04 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Sioux-san
About one percent of what I know came from a school. And I think that would hold true whether or not I went to a public or a private school.

The one common denominator among well-educated people is a love for reading. Since I was about 12, I devoured books as fast as I could read them. Not just dime-store novels (though admittedly a lot of that) but non-fiction books on history, science, technology and social studies as well.

I remember in high school working my way through Winston Churchill's books which allowed me to run circles around my history teacher at the time. I can still remember correcting him on a point concerning WW2 and it pertained to Germany declaring war on the United States after Pearl Harbor. My teacher maintained that it was the U.S. that declared war on Germany first. Actually, as I was able to point out, the U.S. declared war on Germany only after they had declared war on the U.S. first. Of course, I got the "why don't you come up here and teach the class yourself if you're so smart" attitude.

Point is, all schools can really do is give you a rudimentary understanding of all the various subjects. For any in-depth understanding of any particular subject, you must do your own reading.

45 posted on 03/09/2014 1:29:11 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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Why then do Asian students excel?
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Because they are doing well **in spite** of the government's godless K-12 SS schools ( single-payer and socialist-entitlement schools).

Their parents are afterschooling them by way of paid and unpaid tutors ( often cousins) and after school study clubs.

46 posted on 03/09/2014 3:02:53 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: fso301

When did the government become the big mommy and daddy ensuring that “ everyone has a baseline indoctrination”? ( oops! “education”)

Government can’t and isn’t ensuring anything except a lot of wasted tax dollars.

When government “ensures” anything that means police and court action. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip.)


47 posted on 03/09/2014 3:07:38 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Get back to traditional teaching-—Not a quick fix. The Union is a big part of the problems—but the real problem is how teachers are taught to teach.
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The fundamental problem is that compulsory government schooling was a Prog idea from the beginning to turn Catholic immigrant children into Protestants.

Fundamentally, Progs have always controlled teacher training and curriculum development. Progs have always pushed at the boundaries of society’s morals and ethics.

Fundamentally, government schools is single-payer and socialist-entitlement schooling and was easy pickings for the the unions.

Unions are a symptom. Getting rid of them is like giving a tylenol to a person with a crushed leg.


48 posted on 03/09/2014 3:13:49 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: A_perfect_lady
My mom and grandparents used to read to me
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Your mom and grandparents did what homeschooling parents do. In other words, you were “afterschooled”.

Where are the studies that prove classroom teaching does anything at all? Unless the informal tutoring done by parents and by paid professionals ( “afterschooling”) is measured, it is impossible to know if institutionalized teaching is in any way effective.

It is completely possible that the institutional schools are merely sending home a curriculum for the parents, tutors, and child to follow in the home.

49 posted on 03/09/2014 3:19:20 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
Because they are doing well **in spite** of the government's godless K-12 SS schools ( single-payer and socialist-entitlement schools). Their parents are afterschooling them by way of paid and unpaid tutors ( often cousins) and after school study clubs.

Isn't that how the public education system was designed to operate?

50 posted on 03/09/2014 4:16:25 PM PDT by fso301
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