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Black preschoolers more likely to face suspension
www.wtop.com ^ | 3/21/14 | Jesse J Holland

Posted on 03/21/2014 7:15:01 AM PDT by armydawg505

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Black students are more likely to be suspended from U.S. public schools -- even as tiny preschoolers.

The racial disparities in American education, from access to high-level classes and experienced teachers to discipline, were highlighted in a report released Friday by the Education Department's civil rights arm.

The suspensions -- and disparities -- begin at the earliest grades.

Black children represent about 18 percent of children in preschool programs in schools, but they make up almost half of the preschoolers who are suspended more than once, the report said. Six percent of the nation's districts with preschools reported suspending at least one preschool child.

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Could there be a reason for this? Maybe it has something to do with the evening news where every single crime story involves black criminals shooting, stealing, etc? Or is it just evil, white racists are work again?
1 posted on 03/21/2014 7:15:01 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

Having been bitten, spit on, and cursed at by a few, I’m not all that surprised... and this was at church.


2 posted on 03/21/2014 7:16:18 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: armydawg505; GeronL

How many preschoolers even GET suspended?


3 posted on 03/21/2014 7:16:41 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Oberon

“Black students are suspended from school at a rate disproportionate to their numbers.” And blacks commit crimes way out of proportion to their numbers. So what’s the point of the article???


4 posted on 03/21/2014 7:17:45 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

Why even do these “reports”? Why waste time researching and pooling?

Why not just write down the results that are most politically correct and that fit your agenda best and be done with it.


5 posted on 03/21/2014 7:18:11 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: armydawg505

Naaaaaah, really?


6 posted on 03/21/2014 7:18:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: armydawg505
Six percent of the nation's districts with preschools reported suspending at least one preschool child.

Subset of all of the nation's districts with preschools...

Subset of reporting districts...

Subset with at least ONE child suspended...

How many people are we talking about here?

7 posted on 03/21/2014 7:18:41 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: armydawg505

I am sure behavior has nothing to do with this...


8 posted on 03/21/2014 7:19:13 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: a fool in paradise

With children suspended more than once.


9 posted on 03/21/2014 7:19:54 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: armydawg505

Perhaps they need to behave better.
Perhaps the black community needs to parent better.
Perhaps children need fathers.

Or maybe the white mofos are the problem.


10 posted on 03/21/2014 7:20:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: armydawg505

Stop with the racist whining.

Racism is an old subject. Those whining about it are now stuck in the past, and trying to make something where there is no longer something.

Sorry but Obama has been the end of American racism.

And also, racial baiting. Just stop it.

Now.


11 posted on 03/21/2014 7:22:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: armydawg505

Well, “color” me surprised.


12 posted on 03/21/2014 7:24:23 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: armydawg505

Do anyone date say the obvious: black kids are more likely to misbehave.

No, it’s evil whitey picking on innocent black chilren.


13 posted on 03/21/2014 7:25:57 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: dfwgator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJD1ba9iQGs

And they don’t show the worst of it.

“Culture”


14 posted on 03/21/2014 7:26:02 AM PDT by Salamander (SNEK!!!)
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To: armydawg505

Could the reason be related to welfare, which disproportionately harms black families? Could the reason be related to single parent families, which are a problem nationwide but disproportionately so in black families? Could the problem be related to our fragmented popular culture, in which Black Entertainment Television shows far more thuggish behavior to its black viewers than Univisión and Country Music Television show their Hispanic and white viewers?

The “disproportionate” disciplinary actions may have nothing to do with racism (except the destruction inflicted by racists in the Democrat party) and everything to do with really bad family decisions - and the resulting bad behavior from children in those families. Note: I watched a few minutes each of BET, Univisión, and other targeted networks, and I found BET to be uniformly material I would not want my own children to watch because of the celebration of violence/rudeness/thug culture, and Univisión to be not much different from regular television other than the language and a tendency to soap opera situations.


15 posted on 03/21/2014 7:27:06 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: armydawg505

In other news, more pit bulls than golden retrievers are destroyed for attacking people. But it’s not that we are being unfair to pit bulls.

And more men are in prison than women. Is it because the criminal justice system is sexist?

i.e. each case is unique and we must examine whether the individual kid’s actions deserved it. Race should be irrelevant. If black kids do the activities that deserve the punishment, well, their race may be somehoe involved with why they did what they did, but the higher numbers don’t mean they are being discriminated against because of their race any more than the higher number of men in prison means they are being discriminated against because of their sex.


16 posted on 03/21/2014 7:27:27 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Jewbacca

It’s like when Richard Pryor visited a prison to prepare for “Stir Crazy”, he really thought that black men were being picked on, but when he left he thought, “Thank God We Got Penitentiaries.”


17 posted on 03/21/2014 7:27:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: armydawg505

It’s not the children, it is the adults who raise them.


18 posted on 03/21/2014 7:28:10 AM PDT by just me (GOD BLESS AMERICA Amen)
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To: armydawg505

The welfare system in this country pays the least employable women to have children by the most exciting, i.e., dangerous men they can find. Then we try to rescue those children by putting them in preschools with better role models than their parents. Then the women have more children.

We don’t even have to address innate differences, racial or individual. The welfare system has a dysgenic effect on populations and a socially destructive effect on the family. Better to pay welfare candidates NOT to have children than to have children.

Whites lag blacks. Where will the descendants of “white trash” as opposed to “poor whites” be in two generations? Then see what happens to low income white families as jobs disappear and welfare incentives become more acceptable and more attractive.


19 posted on 03/21/2014 7:28:50 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Altura Ct.

I’m sure parenting has everything to do with this.


20 posted on 03/21/2014 7:29:03 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: cuban leaf

“Teenagers”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2585898/Liam-Neeson-saves-stray-dog-teenagers-throwing-stones-it.html


21 posted on 03/21/2014 7:29:11 AM PDT by Salamander (SNEK!!!)
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To: heartwood
Where will the descendants of “white trash” as opposed to “poor whites” be in two generations? Then see what happens to low income white families as jobs disappear and welfare incentives become more acceptable and more attractive.


22 posted on 03/21/2014 7:31:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
The Legacy of Idiocracy. Obama's Vision for America
24 posted on 03/21/2014 7:33:00 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Don’t you know it’s worse now than it was in 1950 Selma, Alabama? Why, just the other day I saw the police dogs snapping and the fire hoses spraying some young, defenseless, poor, troubled, at-risk, left-behind, hungry, disadvantaged, held-back, and otherwise just not able to keep up because of circumstances beyond their control, newborn infants in the tent set aside for the coloreds next to the local hospital where their mommas had just given birth. Next time you wish to write such an insensitive set of sentences, you just remember my words young fella, and you just look around. Perhaps we all need to understand the privilege we do not see as our bright skin is white like the lily-devils that play in the meadows of inequality and that it has blinded us to such things! Why, in this single matter alone, it is obvious, legislation must be passed that for every child of non-European lineage lashed at the whipping-post of preschool suspension, seventeen chalky-skinned babies must be given up to the liberal-arts university of their parent’s choice, to be raised in whatever manner deemed fit by the council of non-white-devil studies.


25 posted on 03/21/2014 7:36:35 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: armydawg505

Lack of fathers. That’s the reason, period.


26 posted on 03/21/2014 7:38:57 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: armydawg505

Its because far too many of them are being raised in multi generational dependency households, more often than not without fathers, and damned often by mothers who are basically children themselves.

They show up to school without basic social skills or discipline and as such wind up getting into more trouble.

This has nothing to do with the color of their skin.


27 posted on 03/21/2014 7:40:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Oberon

When I was in elementary school, our bus route got combined with a route for kids from the black side of town. It was my first encounter with black kids in large groups and it was extremely unpleasant. Everyone was poor in this town so it had nothing to do with that. It just so happens that most white kids have dads who are somewhat involved and most black kids don’t.


28 posted on 03/21/2014 7:41:04 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

You’re right about that. Too many Black men love to have sex, but they don’t want to bear the responsibility of parenting.


29 posted on 03/21/2014 7:43:33 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: armydawg505

I suspect that is because in preschool, is the first time they come face to face with any kind of discipline.


30 posted on 03/21/2014 7:44:28 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: armydawg505
Overall, the data show that black students of all ages are suspended and expelled at a rate that's three times higher than that of white children.

They fail to mention that this occurs at mainly black schools, with suspensions given by black teachers, organized by black school administrators. Its an observable fact that children without two parents and a strong home life are much more prone to misbehavior, ADHD, etc... 70% out-of-wedlock births DOES have consequences.

31 posted on 03/21/2014 7:45:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: armydawg505

You have to understand the basis of liberalism/humanism in order to understand their point.

Instead of evil coming from within, liberals assume that evil behavior is always in reaction to environment or provocation.

So, they instantly assume that these preschoolers are being discriminated against by the school because they are the ones acting up disproportionately.


32 posted on 03/21/2014 7:47:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PoloSec

And more precisely, it’s probably the first time they’ve encountered being denied their base drives and desires.


33 posted on 03/21/2014 7:49:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: skinndogNN
You’re right about that. Too many Black men love to have sex, but they don’t want to bear the responsibility of parenting.

An issue that Barack Hussein Ubama only touched upon during his primary run (leading to Jesse Jackson making the "someone should cut his nuts off" comment).

Mere talking points to get votes for Mr. Obama (who's own daddy ran out on him AND his mommy did too!). Now the issue is "racist" if you bring it up.

34 posted on 03/21/2014 7:52:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: armydawg505

That fact in itself means nothing.

Sorry, libs, but time to start admitting that they are suspended more (if true) because they act up more.

Period.


35 posted on 03/21/2014 7:55:00 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ClearCase_guy

What you suggest is not allowed, because it would be racist to say that the black community need to be better parents, or that children need fathers, or any of that.

So then we come back to white mofos being the problem. If only whites didn’t try to pass judgement on black behavior, then there would be no problem to discuss.


36 posted on 03/21/2014 7:56:23 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: armydawg505

It is of course racist to even consider that disparities in discipline could be the simple result of disparities in behavior.


37 posted on 03/21/2014 7:56:43 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: PoloSec

I live in an area that is predominantly black and Hispanic.

The difference in the “parenting styles” of the two groups is quite amazing, even at very young ages.

I will very often see a Hispanic family together of dad, mom and the kids at the store. A black man seen with woman and kids is unusual enough I do a bit of a double-take.

The black mommas will walk down the sidewalk of a busy street with tiny little children trailing them 20 or 30 feet behind. Never even look around. Makes my skin crawl and I want to go hold the child’s hand and protect her. Which of course would be a VERY bad idea, so I don’t.

Black mommas will scream the most appalling threats at their very young children in public, and fairly often will hit them really hard, and not in a “spanking” type of way.

I think it is almost a truism that parenting styles this different are likely to produce different behavior in very young children.

It should be unnecessary, but I’ll say it anyway. I’m referring to a general tendency among this group that I’ve observed. I’m not trying to say it applies to every member. I have black friends who are very kind and loving parents to their children.


38 posted on 03/21/2014 7:57:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: armydawg505

Muslim children are more likely to strap on bomb belts and blow innocent people to bits!Is this profiling?


39 posted on 03/21/2014 7:59:38 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: armydawg505

No parents. No discipline. No concept of social behavior. Children of any color should be penalized for bad behavior. That is how civilization is supported.


40 posted on 03/21/2014 8:06:04 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: armydawg505

It could also be a government issue. Say you have a private preschool in a small town in Kentucky with all white children. Kid acts up and hits another kid. The teacher knows the parents and some level of trust exists. The teacher grabs the kid, marches him to the corner, and makes him stay there until he settles down. Parents pick the child up at the end of the day and say “we’ll have a talk with our son when we get home. Sorry for the problem and thanks for handling it.”

Now imagine it’s the middle of Washington, D.C. In this case, the preschool worker is being paid by the government. They are so afraid of lawsuits that they can’t touch a child. So a kid acts up and hits another kid. They can’t touch the misbehaving child, but they can’t let him in stay in class for fear of a lawsuit from the child that go hit. Suspension is the only legal remedy.


41 posted on 03/21/2014 8:10:31 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Our man in washington

Less dads in the family than others and massive government meddling IMO.


42 posted on 03/21/2014 8:12:14 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: armydawg505

And that is the case throughout the world, wherever they live, not just in America. They would say it’s because of racism, but many races are discriminated against. I think it’s the dysfunctional culture.


43 posted on 03/21/2014 8:12:46 AM PDT by punditwannabe
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To: ClearCase_guy
Or maybe the white mofos are the problem.

From the original article:

**Losen said it's appropriate to discipline a 4-year-old, but a more appropriate response might be moving them to a different educational setting with additional services.**

It's the teacher's fault. < /sarc >

44 posted on 03/21/2014 8:14:24 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: armydawg505

“Could there be a reason for this?”

Probably because they’re still pooping in their pants.


45 posted on 03/21/2014 8:17:34 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: armydawg505

The evil racist members of the teachers’ union are at work again.


46 posted on 03/21/2014 8:24:31 AM PDT by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: cuban leaf

Exactly. No one ever complains about the disproportionate number of men incarcerated. For any category of crime. But then, men are unPC so maybe that is just OK.


47 posted on 03/21/2014 8:40:31 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: armydawg505

disproportionate to their numbers.”

…they’re over achievers. That’s all.


48 posted on 03/21/2014 8:48:59 AM PDT by albie
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To: the OlLine Rebel

ANY time someone says stats show that racism/sexism/name your ism is responsible for one group or another being unfairly treated, I use the male vs female prison population statistic and ask if thier single stat is all they have. I then propose that the numbers may be different for the same reason prison numbers are different. i.e. it is quite fair and the responsibility of those they are inferring - falsely - are being unfairly treated.


49 posted on 03/21/2014 8:53:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Sherman Logan

You are quite right in your observation.

It’s overstated that dads aren’t around for blacks. That is a key issue but it is only part of it - after all, would those men be real good dads?

The women tend to be extremely abusive. It is not “lack” of discipline, but poor discipline. As you stated often there is total ignorance and uncaring about what the kid is doing. If it keeps the kid out of her hair, that’s fine with her. Too lazy to pay attention and do something. But if it’s something that annoys HER, she will haul off and beat the $:&;&//-@& out of the kid.

Meanwhile, I saw a Judge Judy that made my blood boil. These women thugs actively support the thug culture. This woman was on there who actually told her cute little 5yo boy that he needs to go beat up some kid who dissed him. Whatever it was, it was appalling how she proudly mouthed off how she did this. Judge Judy was agape. Never mind me. They actively promote this trash life. That poor little boy who still looked basically nice, needed to be taken from that trash.


50 posted on 03/21/2014 8:54:25 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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