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(Freeper) Master Sergeant Christopher Grisham found guilty in right to carry trial
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Posted on 03/31/2014 12:40:49 PM PDT by Altariel

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To: RightOnTheBorder

” Texas cops are legally allowed to disarm you while they assess a situation”

According to what part of the Second Amendment?

Oh, right, I keep forgetting that The State may ignore the Constitution when it best serves her interests.....

Which Texas governor signed that gem into “law”?


21 posted on 03/31/2014 1:12:41 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: DannyTN
It sure seems as though he was ‘profiled’ by the officer, doesn't it? If so, he's being made an example of. **sigh**
22 posted on 03/31/2014 1:14:21 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
Just watched the dashcam. Porky pig never requested he relenquish his weapon and went batshit becuase the guy touched the buttstock while the “officer” was grabbing at him. What a pathetic jury to convict on anything.

Agreed.

23 posted on 03/31/2014 1:18:48 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: ravenwolf

If the 'good' ones don't get a pronto handle on the lunatics/thugs in their midst, it'll likely end up as a distinction w/o difference.

24 posted on 03/31/2014 1:26:35 PM PDT by tomkat (can hear the whirlwind comin')
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To: Altariel

I live close to Fort Hood and there are lots of soldiers coming home from war. I think that the Police are more cautious in places like that. Just saying.


25 posted on 03/31/2014 1:29:41 PM PDT by NativeTxn
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To: Altariel

Resisting an unjust arrest is still a crime?


26 posted on 03/31/2014 1:29:59 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Altariel

Since when has violation of the second amendment by police been an official “police duty”?


27 posted on 03/31/2014 1:34:56 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Bandoliers?

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28 posted on 03/31/2014 1:40:41 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: NativeTxn

Killeen, unfortunately like too many towns around military bases, isn’t the best of places to begin with. Lots of gang activity.

Temple, however, is a bit further away. Army folks aren’t unheard of there, but they weren’t as common as coppers cove, Harker heights, and Killeen.

At least that was my experiences with Killeen/Ft hood and the surrounding areas in the 90s.


29 posted on 03/31/2014 1:43:30 PM PDT by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: Altariel
Assuming that state and/or federal law required the MSGT to *temporarily* surrender,peacefully surrender,his weapon to the cop (I don't know if that's the case or not) then he should have done so.In fact,even if the law *didn't* require him to do so he should have surrendered it and then sued for damages.And if,by chance,the cop was legally justified to demand the weapon in that situation then efforts surely should be made to change that law.

If we can't trust officers or senior enlisted men in our Armed Forces to carry weapons then who *can* we trust?

30 posted on 03/31/2014 1:44:19 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Altariel
Old News. From last year.

...and the spark that would have led to a new revolution died from lack of interest.

Hey, it's understandable considering the house mortgage, the payments on the new truck and boat and the kids with their soccer games on the weekend.

Truth be told, there ain't gonna be no revolution........

31 posted on 03/31/2014 1:50:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: chcknhawk

Best wishes.


32 posted on 03/31/2014 1:57:48 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

I was thinking this was Arizona at first, and remembered from living there many, many years ago it was open carry. My landlord carried a revolver on his hip at all times and at first it made me a little nervous because I’d only been around long guns, deer hunting stuff. Once I found out he was a veteran and he was a swell guy I didn’t worry about it again.

It is (was?) one of the really civilized aspects of living in Arizona.


33 posted on 03/31/2014 2:01:56 PM PDT by CH3CN
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To: Altariel
Just watched the video on youtube...about 15 minutes long.It looks like the police were basically trying to cover themselves to prevent disciplinary action being taken against them and/or to possibly avoid some kind of civil lawsuit.
34 posted on 03/31/2014 2:04:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: unixfox

I humbly suggest getting all sides of the story to find out who this guy (Grisham) is.

IMHO he is not one we want to champion our side.

As demonstrated and proved, he is wacko and guilty of Stolen Valor: https://www.michaelyon-online.com/stalking-soldier-arrested-disarmed-by-texas-police-some-facts-opinion-and-analysis.htm

The following from https://www.facebook.com/MichaelYonFanPage/posts/158735464175074

Michael Yon John — there is particular soldier who is a common denominator in the Soldiers’ Angels attacks, and the three soldiers I had problems with this time in Afghanistan. One soldier is in the middle of this, and he is one of those three. The other two were part of his “blocked by Michael Yon” facebook page. They would come on FB and curse at people and act like children, get blocked and brag about it. US Soldiers did such things, including one Captain Chris Carbone. Officer. US Army. Civil Affairs guy. Think he was winning battles in Afghanistan?

4-4 Cav was getting great press until Chris Carbone and the other two soldiers decided that good press is not what 4-4 Cav needed. Keeping in mind that none of these soldiers where in 4-4 Cav. Two were Civil Affairs, one was intelligence. (How smart is that?) They didn’t mind destroying the good press that 4-4 earned and deserved.

The problem soldier is wrapped tight with Blackfive (Matt Burden, Godfather of Blackfive, is a boardmember at SA), Mudville Gazette, and the rest of that small clan who really could care less about the troops downrange. If they cared, they would have left me alone to tell Soldier stories.

I was doing it every chance I got, but Soldiers’ Angels officers are a principal reason for my problems downrange. Wonder why I am not telling Soldiers’ stories? Ask the Mary Ann Phillips who wants unarmed Dustoffs to wear Red Crosses into hot LZs. What does Mary Ann know about gunfire? Phillips, an SA “leader”, fully supports sending unarmed people into combat. Don’t lie about it Mary Ann...I’ve got your email traffic. Make my day.

(Those extra casualties could help the SA bank account and fund more fun trips to concerts and golf tournamets.)

They’ve been attacking since 2010 when I said Menard and McChrystal should be fired. (They then were fired.) That’s where it started. I asked Patti about this yesterday but instead of taking time to answer (after she reached out initially), she went soap-opera with it and dragged her organization right there it belongs; into the spotlight.

If they were reputable leaders of a volunteer organization, they would not spend so much Soldiers’ Angels resources attacking a lone American writer. They got the attention they wanted. Now what?

That’s all. Cheers.


35 posted on 03/31/2014 2:21:03 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Also in the interest of full disclosure:

Veteran Disarmed

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3004605/posts

Trial Of Soldier (FREEPER) Chris Grisham, Who Carried AR-15 Rifle On Public Street, Goes To Jury

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3080237/posts


36 posted on 03/31/2014 2:55:22 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: saganite

“I think resisting is a catch all charge no matter what you do.”

Of course it is. The videos of the police pounding the crap out of someone while screaming ‘stop resisting, stop resisting’ are quite revealing.


37 posted on 03/31/2014 3:39:06 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Altariel

Still a nutter.


38 posted on 03/31/2014 3:39:46 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: tomkat

If the ‘good’ ones don’t get a pronto handle on the lunatics/thugs in their midst, it’ll likely end up as a distinction w/o difference.


I think so also, though it seems to be procedure more than an individual thing, either way i think it will just get worse.


39 posted on 03/31/2014 4:00:15 PM PDT by ravenwolf (hat many years.ost void of pend us)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Would’ve been sumpin if had occurred on 11/12/13...


40 posted on 03/31/2014 4:03:15 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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