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Psychopaths: how can you spot one?
The Telegraph ^ | 3:00PM BST 06 Apr 2014 | Tom Chivers

Posted on 04/06/2014 1:09:33 PM PDT by null and void

We think of psychopaths as killers, alien, outside society. But, you could have one for a colleague, a friend – or a spouse

...These people lack remorse and empathy and feel emotion only shallowly. In extreme cases, they might not care whether you live or die. These people are called psychopaths. Some of them are violent criminals, murderers. But by no means all.

Professor Robert Hare is a criminal psychologist, and the creator of the PCL-R, a psychological assessment used to determine whether someone is a psychopath. “It stuns me, as much as it did when I started 40 years ago, that it is possible to have people who are so emotionally disconnected that they can function as if other people are objects to be manipulated and destroyed without any concern,” he says.

Slowly we are learning to think of mental illnesses as illnesses, like kidney disease or liver failure, and personality disorders, such as autism, in a similar way. “A high-scoring psychopath views the world in a very different way, It’s like colour-blind people trying to understand the colour red, but in this case ‘red’ is other people’s emotions.”

At heart, Hare’s test is simple: a list of 20 criteria, each given a score of 0 (if it doesn’t apply to the person), 1 (if it partially applies) or 2 (if it fully applies). The list includes: ...

A pure, prototypical psychopath would score 40. A score of 30 or more qualifies for a diagnosis of psychopathy. Hare says: “A friend of mine, a psychiatrist, once said: ‘Bob, when I meet someone who scores 35 or 36, I know these people really are different.’ The ones we consider to be alien are the ones at the upper end.”

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: murder; psychopathia; psychopaths; psychosis
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I wonder what percentage of our "betters" in government would score below 35?
1 posted on 04/06/2014 1:09:33 PM PDT by null and void
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2 posted on 04/06/2014 1:10:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: null and void

By their voter registration card.


3 posted on 04/06/2014 1:11:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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The best way is through a Weaver T-Series 24x 40mm Adjustable Objective 1/8 MOA Dot Reticle Rifle Scope.


4 posted on 04/06/2014 1:13:21 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: null and void

Just go to the DNC(Democratic National Committee). Being a psychopath is a requirement for participation.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 1:15:01 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: null and void

Don’t worry. I’m the one that should worry. I scored a 48.


6 posted on 04/06/2014 1:15:03 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The best way is through a Weaver T-Series 24x 40mm Adjustable Objective 1/8 MOA Dot Reticle Rifle Scope.

This, ftw

7 posted on 04/06/2014 1:15:41 PM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: null and void

You’re nuts if you go to a psychiatrist.


8 posted on 04/06/2014 1:17:31 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

POW! Right on target!


9 posted on 04/06/2014 1:17:46 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: null and void
To quote Wednesday Addams "I'm a homicidal maniac, they look just like everyone else." You can't really tell, just look at our politicians.
10 posted on 04/06/2014 1:20:54 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: null and void

When you feel uneasy around someone, it’s because they are a psychopath.


11 posted on 04/06/2014 1:30:45 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Noumenon

There was an article in the Herald this morning about Internet trolls which closely relates to this. Since my attempts to post things from the Herald here bring nothing but grief, I won’t. But the author is Eric Adler of the Kansas City Star.
He used terms like “Dark Tetrad”( sounds like a video game) and “everyday sadist.” Some people believe that things like Internet trolling enable the
Antisocial types to vent, thus preventing them from doing even more destructive things. I do not subscribe to this. After growing up arou d Toxic Narcissists, I believe the behavior just feeds on itself. Like most people I often wonder what Internet trolls do offline. Some people believe that most of them aren’t acting independently but part of organized disinformation campaigns, and usually paid.


12 posted on 04/06/2014 1:34:02 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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if they wear a bronc0bama pin or sticker on their car, they're a psychopath
13 posted on 04/06/2014 1:36:37 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: null and void
EXHIBIT "A"

14 posted on 04/06/2014 1:39:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Chode

I know where there is one right now. I used to see him on TV all the time, but he’s laying low recently for some reason.


15 posted on 04/06/2014 1:40:01 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Not always. I’ve been a notoriously bad judge of character all my life. A d as they mention, one of the characteristics is charm.
Think about some of the big cult leaders—Rajneesh, Jim Jones. Hersh Applewhite, Elizabeth Claire Prophet. I consider most or all of them to be at best narcissists, at worst, sociopaths and psychopaths. They didnt get where they were by making people uneasy. Quite the contrary.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 1:41:11 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: crazycatlady
Toxic Narcissists

17 posted on 04/06/2014 1:42:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: null and void
Here be the test online:

Test

I scored 4, but I didn't fill in the age or sexual "identity" question ("identity", LOL).

18 posted on 04/06/2014 1:42:13 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I think we reward the personality of a psychopath in today’s “values.” Americans vote for slickest and slyest - not the smartest and best. There is nothing exceptionally intelligent in OB. But he was a slick showman who lied with the best.


19 posted on 04/06/2014 1:43:10 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: null and void; GeronL

Some of them are professionally called abortionists.


20 posted on 04/06/2014 1:44:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: “Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?”)
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To: Noumenon

Sorry, I didnt mean to direct my post to you. I got excited—should have directed it to “all”.


21 posted on 04/06/2014 1:46:25 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: Chode

If it is a 2008, they’re just plain stupid. 2012 and you’re dealing with a killer.


22 posted on 04/06/2014 1:47:21 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: null and void

There are a couple of people in my immediate family who have some mental/emotional disorders. they aren’t probably psychopaths, but they are nasty people. They each have some measure of guilt which helps somewhat, but the one would surely kill me if he could without getting punished. thankfully, they aren’t psychopaths. They both would probably kill me, or the rest of the family, with no cares to stop them.


23 posted on 04/06/2014 1:49:27 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: crazycatlady

This. As much as we think of psychos as creepy, sinister looking people, most of the time they appear outwardly friendly and charismatic, they tend to maintain theor composure better in social situations and can put on a front of being a very nice, gentle person. I dont believe people have the innate ability to discern a sociopath from a regular individual. I do think animals have a better sense, dkgs in particular seem to be better attuned to abnormal people, they also read faces better than we do and can pick up on traces of deception, whether we listen to them or not is another story.


24 posted on 04/06/2014 1:54:30 PM PDT by RedForemanRules
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To: 1010RD
pretty much
25 posted on 04/06/2014 1:58:12 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Navy Patriot

Thanks. I got a 9.


26 posted on 04/06/2014 2:00:01 PM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: All

I scored 17.
The question about “feeling bad for tricking people” bothers me. If you don’t trick people, there’s no need to feel bad.

Some of the less well known characteristics of toxic narcissists and sociopaths are:
1. Needing constant praise.
2. Over the top fantasies concerning money, power, fame, sex
3. Secret sex lives.
4. Identification with famous and talented people, or seeing oneself, along with one or a few others as exceptional and above the usual rules( My ex-boyfriend was a perfect example of this when it came to his business partner with whom he was probably having an affair. He also liked to brag about famous people he knew.)

I learned this stuff from an article in the Seattle PI about 10 years ago. Also A Perfect Husband by Aphrodite Jones, so-so true crime book with one terrific chapter.

You can see how some of this stuff intersects with other problems such as bi-polar disorder or erotomania, which is what I suspect Anita Hill may ha e had.


27 posted on 04/06/2014 2:04:17 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: null and void
"I was a problem child"

I would say no, but my detested step-monster would say otherwise............

28 posted on 04/06/2014 2:07:19 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

You can’t tell a really, really good psychopath. A safe bet is to look for politicians...especially “progressives”.


29 posted on 04/06/2014 2:12:05 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: null and void
There are other tests on the main part of the site.
30 posted on 04/06/2014 2:13:11 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: crazycatlady
If you don’t trick people, there’s no need to feel bad.

You have an excellent point, sometimes, it is difficult to take the test properly.

It seems that you don't trick people, period, and that is a positive trait.

However the answer should be yes you WOULD feel bad if you did so.

On the other hand is it tricking you into the admission that you trick people by allowing you to look good by "feeling bad"?

31 posted on 04/06/2014 2:18:19 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: crazycatlady

Bipolars are very charming. They are truly like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.


32 posted on 04/06/2014 2:21:12 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: null and void
PSYCHOPATH SPOTTED:


33 posted on 04/06/2014 2:23:12 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

Now, now, just because they have a Massachusetts license plate does not mean they are a sociopath!


34 posted on 04/06/2014 2:27:14 PM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: Rodamala

Perfect vehicle for a destruction derby!


35 posted on 04/06/2014 2:35:22 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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"glibness and superficial charm, grandiose sense of self-worth, cunning/manipulative, pathological lying, emotional shallowness, callousness and lack of empathy".....I got it...I got it...- It is a car salesman..
36 posted on 04/06/2014 2:39:44 PM PDT by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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Straight up - while I'm certain no harm or hurt is intended by anyone with posts like this, the thing that bothers me about them is that they tend to add to the crushing stigma people with mental illness face. This is a topic that is very very personal to me.

I have two sons. One served ten years as an Air Force pilot and currently works as a contractor helping the air force train pilots. His future is bright. The other son was completely normal - until he wasn't. When he was in his early twenties he became very ill and was diagnosed with a serious (and rare) brain disorder - Schizoaffective disorder. In seemed to happen overnight. His future is not so bright.

I'm embarrassed to admit that, until mental illness hit our family smack in the face, I was probably one who would have jumped right on the "make fun of the mentally ill" band wagon. Now I know first hand there is nothing funny about it. Society jokes and puts down people who suffer from mental illness, yet these people have biological brain disorders through no fault of their own and deserve the same compassion as people with any other illness - but they rarely get it.

When a family announces they have a child with diabetes or cancer, they find their circle of support grows closer. They are surrounded by compassionate friends and community. Not so with mental illness. Families dealing with mental illness very often see friends draft away and a community that seems indifferent at best to their suffering.

People laugh and make light of mental illness, not because they are bad people, but because there is so much misinformation out there about these devastating illnesses. The problem is, while a very small percentage of people with mental illness become dangerous, those are the only mentally ill people that the media pays any attention to. It is mind-numbingly unfair. The vast majority of people suffering with mental illness are someone's mother or father or brother or sister and they are simply suffering silently with few good options for real help.

I apologize if I sound preachy. Honestly I do not mean to be. I'm just hoping people will think a bit about what mental illness really is and understand that those affected need our compassion and prayers (by the way, for any fellow Catholics, we have a patron Saint of Mental Illness, Saint Dymphna. ).

Because of our son's diagnosis, we got involved with the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) several years ago. Since 2006, I have been a teacher and I am my state's program director for a 12-week family education program for families with loved ones diagnosed with mental illness. The 12-week course is free to family members who want to learn about their loved one's illness and learn problem solving skills and communications skills to better help their ill relative. The program is called Family-to-Family I am currently half way through teaching my 15th F2F course. If you know of anyone with a family member suffering from mental illness, please tell them to contact their local NAMI affiliate to see if this program is available in their area. It was a life saver for our family.

Lastly, as long as I am talking about NAMI, I hope I can make a blatant plug for our annual fundraiser called NAMIWalks for the Mind of America. This is a walk that takes place in cities all across the country as a way to raise money to do things like provide the family to family course, peer support classes and family support groups. You can find more info here: NAMIWalks Just click on your state to find the NamiWalk activities in your area and to find a team to join and/or donate to.

Thank for listening.

37 posted on 04/06/2014 2:41:33 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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Thanks for sharing.


38 posted on 04/06/2014 2:48:41 PM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: Hostage
Bipolars are very charming.


39 posted on 04/06/2014 2:49:37 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: null and void

According to research most are politicians and CEOs.


40 posted on 04/06/2014 2:56:04 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Navy Patriot

I also scored 4, but did enter my age & gender. :-)

I heard something on the radio a few days ago about identifying psychopaths. They were testing people for empathy by seeing if they would yawn when another person in the room yawned. If they didn’t, they were suspect.

It made me start to yawn just listening to them talk about it!


41 posted on 04/06/2014 3:31:10 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: JaguarXKE

Very sorry to hear about our second son becoming ill in his early twenties. That must have been (and must be) totally devastating.

I reread the comments here and most people aren’t making fun of mental illness, but are making the logical connection between politicians in general (especially Democrats such as Clintons and Obama) and psychopathic behavior. There are definitely many symptoms among those people.


42 posted on 04/06/2014 3:50:00 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Cannot believe no one has yet pointed out that Obama clearly scores at least a 30 on this......clearly a psychopath......


43 posted on 04/06/2014 4:15:07 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: Rodamala; null and void

hey, now! Not all us Massachusetts folks are that nutty!

But seriously, you see that type of car all the time in the suburbs of Boston - especially in the more well to do towns. But they are usually hybrids.

A friend of mine had a nanny who owned a car filled with such stickers. I had meet her a couple times but really kept my distance as I had no interest in getting to know her. At one point my friend mentioned the lady was interested in seeing me.

Yeah, right - I stayed the heck away until she departed for another job. Dating liberal women is just a total waste of time.


44 posted on 04/06/2014 4:28:40 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: warsaw44

Yeah? Marry one.


45 posted on 04/06/2014 4:30:16 PM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks null and void.


46 posted on 04/06/2014 4:34:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RedForemanRules
Children will avoid them if they have a sense about such things.
I've seen children run from people they don't know, and embrace strangers
they have a sense about. Intuition about bad people is strong in most kids.
47 posted on 04/06/2014 4:45:47 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: null and void
Generally, if a person self-identifies as a "progressive", they are a good candidate.
48 posted on 04/06/2014 4:48:20 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: warsaw44
Dating liberal women is just a total waste of time.

Noted. I am ready after having a presence on OKCupid for many years, to ditch it... in theory all they "should" have left there acter this Firefox faggotry they pulled are braindead homofascists anyways.

49 posted on 04/06/2014 5:05:22 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Navy Patriot

Scored 7 ... but I cheated. LOL


50 posted on 04/06/2014 5:30:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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