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During the crusades, the artisans and bankers of northern Italy profitted from selling armor to both sides. During WWI the munitions makers and bankers made fortunes while the young men of Europe came home permanently scarred. It's the ssame with most wars. Those who do the financing and the arming end up richer and more powerful. Those who fight the wars end up with table scraps.

And now the EU bankers are taking over Europe, only fighting wars when it's necessary....like Ukraine. This is not what the people voted for. The question is beginning to arise...can they vote their way out of it?

In the US, we still have the right to vote ourselves out from under the bankers' domination. But everyone and everything is so manipulated that no decent candidates can get through.

This cannot end well.

Why would Ukraine not want to join the EU ? It should be all unicorns, leprechauns and pots o'gold. What could possibly go wrong for the average Ukrainian ?

How about, they get out from under the boot of the Russian bear that has starved, dominated and used their country as a buffer for generations?

Oh and by the way, there is nothing wrong with actual austerity. The problem is none of these countries is really practicing it. Most of them are simply lowering the increase of public spending. Estonia's model of austerity, you know where you actually cut stuff, is working just fine.

And before you get into banker conspiracies, bankers are nothing more than enablers - same as they are for individuals that get into debt trouble. The reason the bankers are always taken care of is because they will keep lending the money that allows these countries to run their social welfare states (effectively buying votes from the dependent class).

Much as the EU is rotten no doubt, but most Eastern European nations along with the Baltic's are much happier being under the Western European umbrella than at the mercy of Russia. Take a moment, remove infowars from your bookmarks and open your eyes. The Ukraine has had far more negative experience with Russia than it has the EU, so naturally the 75% ethnic Ukrainians in the Ukraine (as well as some percentage of others who feel themselves Ukrainians first) will gravitate to the West.

Anti-austerity message dominates May Day marches in Europe - May 2, 2014 - Opponents are outraged that the cuts will be implemented by a Socialist administration that many marchers in the capital and across France voted for two years ago.“This is not a government of the Left,” said Jean-Baptiste, an artist who goes by the name of Voltuan. “We have been betrayed. We voted for Hollande and now we are telling him ‘Give us our money back’. We want a real social policy.”

Greek workers use May Day to protest against reforms and austerity - May 1, 2014 - At a protest organised by the Communist Party outside the parliament building in central Athens, unemployed building worker Albert Disai said the government’s labour law changes have devastated workers’ rights: “They held out the hope that with these measures things would get better, but the only thing I see is darkness.” The Greek Communist Party Secretary General Dimitris Koutsoubas railed against the government and Brussels saying: “What we need right now is a strong opposition, that will open the road (for workers’ rights) and that can smash the monopolies of Europe, and allow the people’s voice to rule.”