Skip to comments.Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years Shares One Thing In Common, And It Isnít Weapons
Posted on 05/06/2014 8:07:03 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty
Manasquan, NJ - Nearly every mass shooting incident in the last twenty years, and multiple other instances of suicide and isolated shootings all share one thing in common, and its not the weapons used.
The overwhelming evidence suggests the single largest common factor in all of these incidents is that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or had been at some point in the immediate past before they committed their crimes.
Multiple credible scientific studies going back more then a decade, as well as internal documents from certain pharmaceutical companies that suppressed the information show that SSRI drugs ( Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors ) have well known, but unreported side effects, including but not limited to suicide and other violent behavior. One need only Google relevant key words or phrases to see for themselves. www.ssristories.com is one popular site that has documented over 4500 Mainstream Media reported cases from around the World of aberrant or violent behavior by those taking these powerful drugs
On to the list of mass shooters and the stark link to psychotropic drugs.
Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebolds medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfathers girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
Mathew Miller, age 13, hanged himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) school shooting in El Cajon, California
Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanics file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hanged himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide hanging from a tall ladder at the familys Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hanged herself from a hook in her closet. Karas parents said . the damn doctor wouldnt take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil )
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareths father could not accept his sons death and killed himself.)
Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hanged herself in her familys detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and other drugs for the conditions.
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school
Missing from list 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds .
What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21 killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az
What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24 .. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or
What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Those focusing on further firearms bans or magazine restrictions are clearly focusing on the wrong issue and asking the wrong questions, either as a deliberate attempt to hide these links, or out of complete and utter ignorance.
I saw this article and was fascinated because the media, for some reason, has decided to ignore this fact and place the blame on firearms instead.
Who would have guessed? Crazy Drugs make people CRAZY!!!
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Search is your friend.
The ones not on drugs (and many on them) were almost all liberals.
A huge percentage of them were also leftists or children of leftist.
>>Search is your friend.<<
The FR search is not much of a friend. It leaves me high and dry more often than not and then laughs behind my back when my duplicate thread gets pulled.
It is a friend in the “Positively 4th Street” mold...
This crap did not go on 30 years ago. I am not totally dumping on daycare. But, when we were kids, we were taught impulse control by our stay at home moms.
re: Search is your friend.
The freerepublic search engine, IMO, is close to worthless. I have wasted more time searching with it than actually finding articles that I know for sure are there.
But Prozac does carry a warning about suicidal thoughts in adolescents. That age group, along with a few people from their twenties, are the other thing these people all have in common.
I quit taking Lexapro when I realized not only was it not helping, and had put at least thirty pounds on me, it had me so numb I couldn’t cry at my brother’s funeral.
Seems to have worked for me.
How can shootings not have guns in common? Logic fail.
But the addition of the drug angle is plausible.
Some people who can't handle what the drugs have done to their minds take a gun to themselves instead of other people, I suspect.
“Who would have guessed? Crazy Drugs make people CRAZY!!!”
Speaking of crazy drugs, don’t you just love the TV commercials for all those scarey drugs? They show happy people with butterflies, green meadows, blue skies, fluffy clouds, puppy dogs, etc. Then the latter half of those commercials are filled with all the legal disclaimers and warnings. “This drug may not be for everyone. Discontinue use and call your doctor if any of the following occur: rash, dizziness, disorientation, nausea, vomiting, suicidal thoughts, murderous impulses, body parts falling off, or death.”
I recall one commercial that mentioned death twice! Who would want to ingest such things?
[ Speaking of crazy drugs, dont you just love the TV commercials for all those scarey drugs? They show happy people with butterflies, green meadows, blue skies, fluffy clouds, puppy dogs, etc. Then the latter half of those commercials are filled with all the legal disclaimers and warnings. This drug may not be for everyone. Discontinue use and call your doctor if any of the following occur: rash, dizziness, disorientation, nausea, vomiting, suicidal thoughts, murderous impulses, body parts falling off, or death. ]
I usually retort that I would rather live with the original illness....
Bad skin, I can live with, death, i cannot...
The other commonality among mass shootings is that they always occur in a “Gun Free Zone”, aka “killing field”.
Thirty years ago, kids were also disciplined by teachers in schools rather than given chemical lobotomies. I've talked to some teachers who tell me that about 1/4 of the boys in any given middle school class are on Ritalin or worse.
Add onto your list, Army NCO Robert Bales, killing 16 Afghan civilians in 2012, and taking anti-malaria pills.
I think we can probably glean forty various shootings and killings by military personnel since 2001...to guys under some type of medication.
My own hometown in Bama: 2010...the girl I grew up down the road from was shot by her brother. Also shoot: the brother’s wife, his daughter, and the sister’s young son. The shooter, I knew from high school, would turn the gun on himself shortly after murdering the four. The local cops refused to do complete exam over the guy or his medication habits. They just wanted to close this mess, bury the dead, and move on. There are some indicators that he was under some daze in the hours before the shooting.
I think we could do a trend analysis over the statistics, and actually go back to the 1980s when prescription drugs started to be fairly common place, and show from that point going back....there weren’t that many shootings, all due to no medication delivery devices.
This deserves more attention and more analysis. We should demand thorough investigations and complete toxicology results in every single shooting (even if it’s only one person wounded or shot).
True, now when they come into the work force if you get a little blunt with them. “you’re yelling at them”. I would rather not hire anyone under 40, really it’s that bad.
This is an important enough topic to have more than one discussion
The bottom line question is how do you monitor those on mind altering drugs and prevent them from getting guns or access to guns?
No attempt at rigorous proof.
Basically, raising your voice at a kid might harm his self-esteem and get the teacher fired. Putting him on drugs that are the equivalent of an enforced cocaine addiction (Ritalin and Cocaine are very similar), on the other hand, is standard operating procedure.
If every mass shooting shared one thing in common, wouldn’t it be shooting...which requires a weapon?
Yes, the title is stupid, but the point is a valid one. The blame for school shooting doesn’t lie with access to firearms, every kid had a shotgun or rifle 50 years ago. So the question is what has changed, and what’s the common denominator? This epidemic of over-medicated children (thanks to trumped-up diagnoses of ADHD among kids who just need discipline) is a good place to start looking.
I do not believe that the poster of this article or the author of this article intended to post a scientific study in a peer reviewed publication. this is just as the article said that there is more in common than just guns. It is intended to raise awareness and open discussion.
People with serious mental issues are not all crazy & most are not at risk for becoming the next mass shooter. As such, they have a right to keep and bear arms like anyone else. Preemptively denying that right based on alleged mental issues is a slippery slope danger for all armed citizens, but especially when the regime in power is in a position to dictate who is and who isn’t mentally “fit.”
If we look hard enough, we are likely to discover that the people on the list have a lot in common beyond mind-altering prescription drugs and firearms. I suspect that within 24 hours of the violent event for which they are noted, nearly all of them consumed caffeine, high fructose corn syrup, alcohol, and nicotine; drove a motor vehicle;, watched TV or a movie; played a video game; used Facebook, twitter, or similar social media; read a newspaper; pet a dog; and spoke to God. I also suspect that nearly all of them have liberal parents and a sense of entitlement; suffer from anger issues and depression; had been under the care of a mental health professional; listen to heavy metal music; and self-identify as progressives and Christians in an unjust society. Which, if any of these factors caused or contributed to their violence is anyone’s guess. And let’s keep in mind that they were probably prescribed psychotropic drugs in the first place because they were already mentally unstable (as opposed to becoming mentally unstable as a result of taking the psychotropic drugs).
Wow...doctors and pharmaceutical companies are liable partly!
I don’t deny that the drugs might well make things worse in some or many cases, especially if taken improperly, which tends to happen. But it’s sort of obvious that people who are on psychiatric drugs exhibited symptoms of insanity, and were likely judged to be threats to others or themselves, prior to taking any meds. That’s exactly why they were prescribed the drugs.
A useful comparison would be occurrence of murderous/suicidal behavior by those on psych drugs, as a percentage of the total number on the drugs, versus percentage of murderous behavior by those not on psych drugs. Would there be even more suicides and homicidal rages if the meds didn’t exist?
Prior to the existence of these psych drugs, insane people were often institutionalized, and thus prevented from shooting up schools, etc. Now they are released. The meds make that a plausible alternative.
Would it help for parents of children and semi-adults on psych drugs to lock up the guns, ammo, explosives, etc., and control what their dependents are doing?
How about if parents of children and semi-adults on psych drugs kept their kids away from mass-murder training games and software? 90% of the mass killers seem to have been obsessive “shooter” game players (we can’t deal with that though — money and political contributions must flow).
This isn’t something that will ever get a lot of play in the approved media. The argument is that many people are helped by antidepressants and other psychoactive drugs. It’s a multibillion dollar a year industry affecting everyone from tots in kindergartens to geriatrics in retirement centers. Yeah, there are people who get serotonin boosts and the following crashes, and can’t deal. They go on a killing/suicide rage, but all those dead people don’t stack up against all the pharmaceutically happy people.
My take is that there are plenty of schizophrenics, borderline personality, and manic depressives who need help, but most people being prescribed antidepressants don’t need them. People can’t get a physical without being asked if they are depressed. “Yeah, Obama is president. My dog died. I lost my job, and my wife ran off with the garbage man.” There is no getting out of that doctor’s office without a Prozac, or whatever they hand out these days, prescription. Get those serotonin levels up high enough, and things aren’t so bad, until the crash. That’s when the demons come.
Maybe I get the lefties (You?) to give me a big fat (at least 7 digits) government grant and I can conduct a "study" to confirm or refute the hypothesis.
My take is that there are plenty of schizophrenics, borderline personality, and manic depressives who need help, but most people being prescribed antidepressants dont need them.
So what’s happening to the kids that’s causing them to have all these wild mood swings. Something is picking up and slamming down otherwise normal kids.
What is it?
The young ones are not going to be doing alcohol and nicotine.
But they will be doing sugar. Both in the form of high fructose corn sugar, (found in soft drink, relishes, pastries, icecreams etc) But also in the form of refined flour (found in pizzas pastas and white bread)—that converts almost immediately into sugar.
In this video a doctor shows how sugar follows the same pathway from the liver to the brain as ethanol—the active ingredient in alcohol. The reason sugar does this is because they are essentially the same. The sugar high and low is not like the alcohol high and low. Rather it is the same.
Here is a discussion of how —because they convert into sugar— carbs can make you crazy.
So there is reason to think that sugar is the gateway drug in kids for the by antidepressants and other psychoactive drugs.
I wonder about the school environment. The kids are in schools, the modern ones very prison like, with no natural light, flourescent lights, staring at technology for hours a day. PhysEd and recess have been seriously curtailed or even eliminated. In many cases how much liquid they can consume and how often they can pee are restricted. Newer schools have closed ventilation, heating and air conditioning systems. I wonder about air quality. It's an almost totally artificial environment.
We also have a unique situation where the kids on these SSRI drugs have been whiling away their time playing violent video games.
I agree the massive intake of carbs prescribed by the government FDA the last thirty years hasn’t helped matters at all. And now they tell us the science that led to recommending a high carb diet was both flawed and politically manipulated!
the massive intake of carbs prescribed by the government FDA the last thirty years hasnt helped matters at all.
Yeah both the high fructose corn sugar and the emphasis on carbs date back to the 1970’s. the interesting thing on one of the links I presented was that the FDA food chart that came out in the 1970’s which showed carbs as the place where people are supposed to get most of their calories—was pretty heavily politicized. Further, the data suggest that it is not fat that causes fat but rather the sugar.
The high fructose corn sugar was first introduced into darn near everything during the 1970’s
>>But they will be doing sugar.<<
I am a boomer and grew up eating all kinds of candy and sodas all the time.
I checked and I am not nor have I ever been a mass killer.
It was the permissive society inculcating the idea “if you want to do it, it is OK.” When you are told that from the moment you are born, you eventually develop a pathological sociopathic narcissism.
The death of shame was the death of many.
What do you think about GMOs and Chemtrails?
I checked and I am not nor have I ever been a mass killer.
Glad to hear that. But you need to know that people are different not only externally but internally. And there are always outliers. Always.
That said, I loved my sodas and candy too as a kid. Never noticed the ups and downs they caused. They never caused me problems that I was aware of. However, in recent years I have noticed the ups and downs —and the weigh gain—the sugars cause. So I’ve cut back considerably. I’m past 60.
Don’t know enough about them to have an opinion.
I’ve just been researching sugar for the last month or two for my own reasons and just noticed the connection between sugar and the SSRI drugs.
Most doctors have been taught that there is little or no spiritual element to mental illness. The fact is that there is no such thing as mental illness...it is all demon possession..period. And the mood altering drugs only give power and strength to those demons of the mind.
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Is it possible to address this crisis?
Yeah I saw that movie decades ago. Funny stuff at the time.
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