Posted on 05/06/2014 9:10:00 PM PDT by logi_cal869
I just got done bookending a book with a movie (albeit documentary). I had missed prior threads here at FR here and here (I just got done hunting down whether this had been posted prior).
Seeing the posts on the topic, I almost let it go. Then I read the comments. The absolute statements of derision and dismissive/dissension on a plausible explanation for all the (non-LHO/JR) holes in the Warren Commission floored me.
I'm posting this as a "Recommendation": If you have any interest at all in the JFK assassination, no matter from what angle, and have an open mind, I highly recommend picking up the book, Mortal Error and watching the movie/documentary JFK: The Smoking Gun.
I highly encourage checking them out.
And while I realize I'm sticking my neck out here (given the veracity of opinion to the contrary last year), I don't care; the recommendation is too important not to make. I'd never heard of either the book nor the movie until just recently. With my open mind, I'd have appreciated a similar recommendation thrown my way; sadly, that never came and I just happened across the topic completely by accident searching for something else. I had seen the listing for "JFK: The Smoking Gun" prior but, frankly, didn't find it intriguing enough as all the other JFK analyses (CGI et al) had jaded me as being both inconsistent and too 'hyped'. For me, the JFK story comprises 2 parts: The 'Lee Harvey Oswald' story up to HIS assassination, and the post-Daley Plaza events through the Warren Commission. IMHO, without regard to LHO and that ongoing conspiracy, I think this resolves the bulk of it.
I highly recommend both or, at least, the movie as an opening to the book.
(for what it's worth, the movie is on Netflix streaming)
Read Mortal Error years ago. Sorry, Oswald acted alone.
Depends on what the meaning of "alone," is.
It is ok to read conspiracy theories, but we should balance them out with more sober, scientific books as well.
Read it years ago. Great read. Plausible and fills in a lot of blanks. Like why were the records sealed? A well thought out book. Glad you enjoyed it.
Was just in Dallas a week ago and went to the Daeley Museum and walked around outside. They have white X’s where the shots hit JFK, kinda morbid imho.
Thanks for the info, I’m interested to learn much more.
Just wondering, how can anyone overlook Ruby getting to Oswald and killing him, just too pat for me to accept.
Not really, when you look at how that went down. There were dozens and dozens of people there with no real organized control. It was just a media circus. Imagine large groups of people upstairs watching for the move to the armored van or vehicle, then running en-masse down stairwells then pushing and shoving, to get the best vantage point while the people already there jostled for the position they had. There were people shoving and pushing each other, standing on desks both upstairs and downstairs. People are yelling across the room, waving to get the attention of someone else, trying to pass information on phones to their paper, and so on.
Someone tries to restrict the area to authorized press passes, but nobody listens to him. He guides this person and that person with no pass away from the gaggle, and ten more surge into space. They have people camped in offices, using police telephones, etc.
The police who are supposed to be outside keeping people from walking in on the ramp past the truck aren't even paying attention to that, they are rubbernecking to the craziness inside.
Ruby, who knew the area well, just walked on the other side of the truck like a good gate-crasher would, looking like he knew where he was supposed to go. Which he did. All the policemen and detectives knew who he was because he had been there a lot, even handing out passes to the police department personnel for his all-girl review show. And they would thank him by name, and some would even go to the shows where they were sometimes given free drinks.
Not that outlandish to me. It was a crazy zoo with zero to little security and control.
Johnson was as corrupt then as Obama is now. I don’t know why people defend him. Guess it’s the same mentality as Obama supporters.
Everything WAS just too pat. During all the panic and confusion that ensued after the shooting they knew Oswald had done it and had apprehended him within 80 min. BS!
He was a lone gunman yet all the evidence had to be locked up until a time in the future when everyone involved would be dead. Yeah, right. He was a lone gunman all right. (eye roll)
The fact that Ruby could get to Oswald is not the whole issue. It’s the reason he claimed he shot Oswald, to spare Mrs. Kennedy of the ordeal of a trial. Come on......if you examine Ruby and his life, does that sound plausible? If so, I have a bridge that connects Alaska and Russia for sale, cheap.
What I found jaw dropping was that my young daughter, who took her sweet time going through the museum and listening to all the left leaning recordings of the JFK era, walked away saying that it didn’t add up. A kid, well, young adult really, but for her to decide that something was amiss just surprised me!
Chalk it up to one of the many things I will never know the truth about, too much garbage thrown into the mix to find the truth, if it’s even possible to get the truth! Damn, these creeps are really good at that aren’t they?!
Yes they are.
Actually, if you look at his life and the way he was, he isn’t someone who could be a hit man.
In my opinion it is far more unrealistic to see Ruby as someone more than he was.
Anyway, my comment was more towards the comment that there was no way Ruby could have gotten close to him without help. That flies in the face of what went on that day.
I have no problem with the conspiracy theorists on this. As long as someone doesn’t resort to ad-hominem attacks on me because I don’t believe there was a vast cabal involved, then I don’t mind reading them listening to them.
Not all evidence was “locked up.” Volumes were released and there is no evidence anyone other than Oswald shot JFK.
Yes and all put out by the government. The fox that guards the henhouse. It’s like believing this administrations account of Benghazi, the IRS scandal etc. If you are that naïve, fine, believe it but this isn’t the first administration to lie to the American people. I grew up during that time and for decades afterward there have been documentaries, books, articles and movies about it. I have seen eye witness interviews of people that said the government manhandled them and their accounts,they claim, were never put on the record. They seemed quite believable to me. I have a hard copy of the Warren Report.
“Volumes were released and there is no evidence anyone other than Oswald shot JFK.”
Of course not. Would you expect there would be considering who compiled it?
Ruby changed from his original claim of sparing Mrs. Kennedy. Unless you think you can’t believe your lying eyes you can see what he actually says in the video at the top of this link. If you watch the whole thing be aware that it shows graphic footage of Kennedy during and after the assassination.
http://jfkmurdersolved.com/ruby.htm
But the implication was the files were not released to hide damning facts, otherwise why not reads the fabrications? You can’t have it both ways.
I have no idea what you are referring to.
I am referring to your post no 9, where you stated that all the evidence was locked up for fifty years. My response was that not all files were locked up, that the Warren Report included thousands. Then you replied “yeah they’re all government files” indicating they’re all lies because they were produced by the Feds.
So, again, you can’t have it both ways. If they’re all lies, why would the Feds keep some secret? If the fact they’re holding files secret for half a century is indicative of evidence of another shooter, then they’re not all lies.
You can’t have it both ways.
Sorry. Didn’t know I was dealing with a literal nit picker. (Are you also a spelling/grammar Nazi in your spare time?) Let me rephrase for you. All the evidence that conformed to what they wanted the American people to believe was released. Anything that would implicate anyone in power or didn’t conform, wasn’t. Just like the cover up going on about Benghazi and the video. Look it up for yourself. It’s not difficult.
“So, again, you can’t have it both ways. If they’re all lies, why would the Feds keep some secret?”
Why does the Obama administration lie and hide information? Surely you can figure it out.
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