Posted on 05/10/2014 2:47:21 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
I wonder if a "limited redistribution" of wealth includes selling the Vatican archives, the Vatican library, Vatican papers, vatican treasures, etc, etc to various museums and other institutions around the world, and then "redistributing" the wealth that would be procured from this?
Some may say that words have been misinterpreted. If so, then clarify without any possible misunderstanding. But... if there is no misinterpretation, then why not include these in the redistribution of wealth?
THE KEY BEING
You DISTRIBUTE what YOUR TO GIVE
but
You REDISTRIBUTE what OTHERS HAVE
REDISTRIBUTE is GIVING whats NOT YOURS in the first place..
I take the Pope’s remarks as a criticism of the United Nations.
About 90% of the money allocated by UN for Humanitarian and Economic Development aid from funds contributed by First World counties for redistribution to Third World counties is stolen, skimmed or purchased at inflated prices by UN employees,well connected grifters and the kleptocrats in the Third World.
UN aid contracting is basically a license to steal by the unscrupulous well connected in the feeding chain
Only about 10% at best actually ends up going to help the the intended recipients.
Pope is telling the UN to stop ripping off the charitable contributions sent to help the poor and needy in less advantaged countries
Nothing the government does is charitable
Why not include their banking, as well?
They are said to be worth $10 to $15 billion.
This sounds like the debate that raged in my house during my entire formative years. My mom was Catholic and my Dad brought up Baptist. She wanted 10% of the income to go to the church and charity, my dad said he gave at the office and would give more when and if he felt it was needed and he was able, and he wasn’t listening to the Priest until the Catholic Church used it’s assets to help the poor. My mom would say you don’t get rid of your history and past tradition when we can give now.
So I ended up a Catholic that doesn’t tithe but gives to charity regularly.
I will start the bidding at $10.
I think liberals need to learn to be more charitable with their own money. Most conservatives already are. I don’t want to bankrupt the Church because like it or not Atheism and Extremism are both industries that it takes money to combat. Still, the Church could tighten it’s belt a bit, but they do so much that people are not even aware of. Catholic charities, for one, does not just help Catholics.
I moved to the Philippines last year, a country that is mostly Roman Catholic (tho the Protestants are growing exponentially, as people find Christ!). I see the poverty of the hordes here and wonder why the RCC does so little to help them. Instead, they readily take the poor people's money and send a portion of it to Rome. The majority of RC's here are among the poorest.
The Roman Catholic cult is rife with liberal policies and redistribution is just a part of it. They love to display their wealth and brag about it all the time, as if it is something proper.
But, Jesus said ...
Matthew 19: 21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” 25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” 26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” 27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?” 28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[e] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.
Let’s trust government with the dispensation of our property. After all, in the 20th century, governments were responsible for the deaths of 260 million people.
Were these private individuals, or government people he was telling this to?
The phrase was “legitimate redistribution of benefits,” meaning that a country that has huge prosperity and also huge taxes, as Latin American countries do, should be able to have drinkable water and passable roads for its citizens. In Spanish or Italian, the word was not “REdistribution,” but a word equivalent to distribution or sharing.
I think the Pope is a bit of a statist, which is not a good thing, and is touchingly innocent in his reliance on the State to see to this. But on the other hand, he’s also calling on governments to remember that the point of all their taxing and enforcement powers is not to enrich themselves (which they all do, especially here in the US, where anybody who goes into government emerges as a millionaire) but to use this money to provide the benefits of development to the people of their country.
HA!
If you have no problem with an external agency deciding how to distribute your worldly goods then you have no reason to complain when some external agency decides how to distribute the goods owned by the Vatican.
when private people decide to give voluntarily it is charity.
when government confiscates money from private people and gives it to who they like, that’s not charity, that’s tyranny.
i have given this “pope” a lot of slack and benefit of the doubt. no more.
Does it include the pope’s golden throne?
If you believe that everything you have is given you by God for His purposes (anyone want to debate that?) then if anyone takes that away from you by force they are thwarting the Will of God.
God expects us to decide what is equitable.
God wants voluntary giving, giving freely without coercion, not forced giving. if he wanted forced giving, he’d also want forced worship and he would have made us so we had no choice but to worship him.
Voluntary is the key word. Equitable is a satanic diversion.
But it may shut their stupid progressive mouths for a few.
Not a minute before that is anything the church says on the topic legitimate or non-hypocritical. The vatican is one of the biggest hoarders of wealth on the planet.
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