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When to tell kids about abortion?

Posted on 05/13/2014 6:53:25 PM PDT by MNDude

At what age do you think you should first teach kids about abortion, and what do you tell them?


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KEYWORDS: abortion

1 posted on 05/13/2014 6:53:25 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

Perhaps as early as the pro-aborts shove sex education down their gullible gullets.


2 posted on 05/13/2014 6:55:29 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: MNDude

Tough question. Some would rather just not tell them until it actually comes up. Its hard to broach the subject in a way that doesn’t seem forced.

I don’t draw a distinction between abortion and murder, so around the same time you tell kids what murder is, that some human beings kill other human beings for their own selfish desires.

If you teach your kid the Bible, they will be made aware of murder, and the murder of children, in the context of sin and evil.


3 posted on 05/13/2014 6:57:45 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: MNDude

After they understand procreation and when they ask.


4 posted on 05/13/2014 6:57:57 PM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: MNDude

hey kid! you’re pretty lucky... 1 in 4 get chopped to pieces

all in the name of enlightened self interest


5 posted on 05/13/2014 6:59:38 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: redhawk.44mag

I agree. Once they know the reproductive function, it’s safe to talk about it. It’s not as though the word “abortion” won’t appear as an issue within half a year or year of then. That’s when mommy decides to kill the baby inside. Kids seem to “get it.”


6 posted on 05/13/2014 7:02:49 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MNDude

Well, at what age do you first teach children where babies come from. You would have to have had that discussion first.


7 posted on 05/13/2014 7:03:27 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: MNDude
At their mother's breast.



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Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

8 posted on 05/13/2014 7:06:03 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: MNDude

It should be mandatory that each child is informed fully about it, at an age where they can grasp what it means, before they can be aborted.


9 posted on 05/13/2014 7:09:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: MNDude

My oldest was about 7 when SHE asked ME what abortion was. I gave her an honest, but non-graphic description. It was important for me to stress the difference between “deliberate” and “accident”, since she knows that I myself had a premature baby who died.

As my kids get older, I will elaborate, but until they reach their teen years I think it’s best to answer only what they ask themselves. YMMV


10 posted on 05/13/2014 7:11:16 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: MNDude
When discussing the world at very young ages, we mentioned that some people killed babies. At older ages, we showed the kind of people that did these things to the offspring. We contributed to pregnancy crisis centers and went to rallies. In reading years, articles were given to read, analyze and write reports on as they concerned baby killing. Historical antecedents were given all the way back to Molech and cultic worship. In nearly all cases, one doesn't even need to discuss the wrong - they get it because their consciences are tender and they understand what abortion really is given the facts of what it does.

There is no too young. There is always an applicable way to discuss evil.

11 posted on 05/13/2014 7:12:38 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: MNDude

30?


12 posted on 05/13/2014 7:20:11 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MNDude
I am a counselor at a pregnancy resource ministry. I recommend when they are of age to understand the Gospel. That way, they understand evil, sin, and very basic theological foundation for not aborting.

If you need some verses, let me know.

13 posted on 05/13/2014 7:21:32 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: MNDude

About age 3.


14 posted on 05/13/2014 7:25:04 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: MNDude
When it is necessary.

Just as you would not expect a child to carry a 100 lb weight you should not expect them to carry knowledge that is too heavy either.

That is what a parent does.

15 posted on 05/13/2014 7:26:03 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Viennacon

It may, as you say, be a tough question - but you are right on with the answer.


16 posted on 05/13/2014 7:31:55 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MNDude

I had the same question. But when my kids were told by all their school mates how great Obama was and that their parents were voting for Obama because he cares bla bla bla....I told my children 7, 9 and 11 that one of the biggest reasons I do not like Obama is because he believes that it is okay for someone to kill their baby while it is still in their mommy’s belly. I want to get through to them while their common sense is alive and well and not washed away by “educators” like most of their school mates will. I tell them it would be like back in the 1860s voting for someone who is in favor of slavery. There is n more important issue...it tells you everything you need to know about a politician.


17 posted on 05/13/2014 7:32:27 PM PDT by Phillyred
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I don't quite concur with the first dozen responses.

We brought my adopted daughter back from China at age 2, and she appeared in every LifeChain and March for Life (I am the director) until now. There really never was a time she didn't know what abortion means. But that is also because she was saved from abortion in China by an unnamed, unmet heroic Chinese mother and father whom we have always prayed for. And she is staunchly prolife age 15.
18 posted on 05/13/2014 7:34:38 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: Salvavida

“If you need some verses, let me know.”

If you have time I (and I’m sure others) would appreciate it.


19 posted on 05/13/2014 7:35:14 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: redhawk.44mag

“After they understand procreation and when they ask.”

Seems sensible; and tell them that it morally permissible only when deemed absolutely necessary, on the basis of sound medical advice, to preserve the life of a pregnant woman. This eventuality arises extremely rarely, given the present state of medical knowledge and practice.


20 posted on 05/13/2014 8:20:01 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: MNDude

it’s a wonderful thing, why not tell them as soon as possible? it’s just like any other operation. /sarc


21 posted on 05/13/2014 8:23:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sitetest
About age 3.

That's when they learn about squashing bugs.

22 posted on 05/13/2014 8:31:00 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: MNDude

There is a phase children go through whee they have more trouble separating real and imagined. That age when they start having vivid nightmares. I would try to wait until that stage is past, around age 7 or 8. Around the end of that stage they enter one where they are very much into right and wrong, black and white, no shades of gray. That is a great time to introduce the topic and set their minds to understanding abortion is wrong.


23 posted on 05/13/2014 8:55:04 PM PDT by freemama
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I won’t be discussing it with my adopted under 10-year-olds yet unless it comes up. But it will definitely be discussed one day.

Someday when they’re mature enough we’ll also have to talk about the fact that they are lucky to be alive. Their biological mother could easily have aborted either of them. She had aborted at least four pregnancies before they were born.


24 posted on 05/14/2014 3:59:51 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: dr_lew

My younger son was three when we went to our first March for Life. Had to tell him something.


25 posted on 05/14/2014 5:18:54 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: MNDude; Harmless Teddy Bear

I would be far more focused on telling them how to avoid the issue, entirely- that is, abstinence before marriage/ self-awareness (Do you want children? And how to avoid it it if not AND the health risks associated with the various forms of birth control so that they can make the best choices possible). As a practical issue as well as a spiritual one.

I guess the direct answer to your question is as close to puberty as possible & not sooner.

“When it is necessary.
Just as you would not expect a child to carry a 100 lb weight you should not expect them to carry knowledge that is too heavy either.

That is what a parent does. “ (-HTB)

I think you nailed it. As a society, we do this way too much, about way too many things. The cares of adulthood will come soon enough. Kids should be able to be as carefree as possible. It may get me in trouble, but I would exclude them from Pro Life activities until they are old enough for it to be an issue to them- if for no other reason than to protect them from the ugliness of the opposition.
jmho


26 posted on 05/14/2014 8:41:46 AM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: MichaelCorleone; MNDude; Fester Chugabrew; Viennacon; redhawk.44mag; sten; Cboldt; workerbee; ...
If you have time I (and I’m sure others) would appreciate it.

The following is an excerpt of my training manual to work at a pregnancy resource center. Pardon me as it took longer than expected to find my manual. I just moved.

There are two viewpoints:

1- Sanctity of human life and quality of human life.

2- Sanctity of human life has an absolute value, which is based on the fact that God created man in His own image.

Quality of human life has a relative value, which his added on personal attributes such as the absence of physical or mental defects. Society determines which factors are important, but is usually focuses on wantedness and usefulness.

In the biblical view, there are four main ideas that form the life at conception viewpoint: So if you were to explain this to a child (or anyone else for that matter), I'd encourage you to have these down: Creation, Man’s fall, God’s redemptive plan, and pre-born human life.

CREATION: The sanctity of human life is established by God

Genesis 1:26-27

Having been created in the image of God, man was endowed with moral and spiritual capacities. God assigned the value to man to serve and to be in fellowship with Him, special from all of creation.

THE FALL: The sanctity of life is denied by man.

Genesis 3:8-24

Instead of remaining obedient to God, Adam and Eve chose to go their own way. God punishes them, and death enters creation. For the wages of sin is death – Romans 6:23. This brings about a significant change in their relationship to God, to each other, and to their environment.

Genesis 4:8-10

A man kills his brother, and God judges sin. Even though man is fallen and loses a correct view of life, God still views life as worthy of protection.

Note: At this point, capital punishment as a function of government is not instituted yet, but will become an instrument of grace in Leviticus. All legitimate forms of discipline (biblically derived) are instruments of grace designed to reaffirm the sanctity of life, and turn the wicked heart back to God. This is not part of the manual; but it is part of a broader discussion of progressive revelation and how God uses the three governments of family, church, and civil government to institute His will.

Genesis 9:6-11

Violence and evil become so widespread that God doesn’t allow man to free fall into sin unchecked. He restores by bringing justice with the flood; and afterwards, gives a new promise and a new command.

REDEMPTION: The sanctity of human life is restored by God

John 1:12-13; Romans 8:14-17; Galatians 4:4-7

Those who repent of their sins and trust Jesus Christ are restored to fellowship as His children. God’s purpose in creating man is fulfilled in Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 4:24; Colossians 3:10

Those who repent of their sins and trust in Jesus Christ come to resemble God the Father. In Christ, they are recreated in God’s image.

Matthew 22:36-40; Matthew 25:37-40; Galatians 6:1

As those who know God and are made anew according to His image, we are called to demonstrate His loving concern for mankind.

Exodus 20:13; Proverbs 24:11-12; Numbers 35:33; Isaiah 1:10-17

God expects his people to stand for righteousness and justice. Those who fail to do so will be held accountable.

SANCTITY OF PRE-BORN LIFE

Psalm 139:13-16

David acknowledges that God “knit” him together in his mother’s womb and that, as a result, he is “fearfully and wonderfully made.”

Psalm 51:5

David repents of his sin of adultery with Bathsheba and acknowledges his participation in sin from his conception. He is stating that, as an unborn child or fetus, he stood before God as a sinner because of the sinful nature which had been passed down from Adam.

Job 10:8-12

Like David, Job speaks of God being intimately involved in his life from the time he was conceived.

Genesis 25:23; Jeremiah 1:4-5; Isaiah 49:1-25; Galatians 1:15

God deals with human beings as creatures made in His image and determines His plan for them before they are born.

Matthew 1:18-20; Luke 1:15; Luke 1:24-56

God’s concern for mankind intensifies to the point of identification. In the incarnation of Jesus Christ, God becomes man. His incarnation befins with His conception. Wen Mary, who has just become pregnant with Jesus, comes to see Elizabeth, who is six months pregnant with John the Baptist, Elizabeth acknowledges that Mary is the mother of her Lord (Jesus). John leaps for joy in her womb. His joy is the result of being filled in the Holy Spirit before birth, which is a supernatural event. But the fact that John cold experience an emotion such as joy is not a miracle from the standpoint of prenatal development.

Genesis 16

Hagar experiences a crisis pregnancy, and is helped an comforted by an angel of the Lord. Despite the sinful circumstances surrounding his birth, Ishmael is a valuable human being in God’s eyes, and plays a significant role in human history.

Not an exhaustive study, but it's effective. If you can remember four points, and the corresponding Scripture, you will be good.

27 posted on 06/07/2014 3:18:36 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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