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Vanity.....Bergdahl scenario input from former Nam era Army SF/POW
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Posted on 06/06/2014 1:32:57 PM PDT by CGASMIA68

This from a former Army Special Forces and POW in Vietnam. Subject: Re: SGT BERGDAHL

Here is where I am on this thing. Everyone is talking except Sergeant(PFC at time he went missing) B. If it was mine the first things I would be addressing would be in order:

1. If he was with three Afghan soldiers what role did they play in his disappearance?

2. The blurry description of what happened to him makes it appear more and more as if he was not on guard or patrol when captured, including one from an Afghan that he was sitting on the crapper.

3. Over a long period of time he made many statements which have now come back to become part of the lore surrounding his disappearance.

4. He was accused of spending too much time with the Afghans and even trying to learn their language(had he not gone missing this would hardly be something to damn the man for but to commend him for).

5. One of the Taliban in the release party is quoted as telling Bergdahl that he would be killed if they ever saw him again(hardly what one would tell a man who 'converted to Islam and joined the enemy').

6. Interviews with Afghans not directly under American control and protection are totally worthless as they were in Vietnam.

7. How closely has his association with Afghan 'allies' been looked at and why would his equipment,except that normally carried on the belt,being in his tent be such a positive sign that he deserted when two reports said he had his rifle(go back to the report he was seen on the crapper)?

8. Did he leave his 'post' or exit the main 'outpost' with no one seeing him(except those three pesky Afghans)?

9. His past statements show no love for the Taliban and in fact ask why more was not being done to protect the villagers from them.

10. Have our Afghan allies he was accused of spending too much time with been boxed to ascertain their truthfulness or are they also missing?

11. Put no credence in the fact that he was not until late in his captivity called a POW because that trails a change in DOD policy as to how such missing soldiers will be referred.

12. He was known to greatly admire the Special Forces and how they conducted their dangerous business among the Afghans and this hardly shows the intent to defect but past experience tells me that this admiration would not sit well with conventional troops and leaders.

ALL THINGS BEING SAID ARE BEING STATED BEFORE ANYONE TALKED TO THIS GUY?

LIKE ALL THOSE TALKING(ON AND OFF THE RECORD) I DO NOT HAVE A CLUE AS TO HOW EXACTLY THIS GUY ENDED UP IN THE HANDS OF THE ENEMY BUT FROM THE STATEMENTS BADMOUTHING HIM, MADE BY OTHERS, I SENSE THIS FELLOW WAS A TOUGH ENOUGH GUY MARTIALLY THEY NEVER SAID THEM TO HIS FACE BEFORE HE WENT MISSING.

IN THE END I BELIEVE WE SHALL ALL BE SURPRISED HOW THIS PLAYS OUT.

SADLY,I BELIEVE THIS ADMINISTRATION AND IT'S MILITARY/CIVILIAN SYCOPHANTS WILL SPIN THIS AS FAR AS POSSIBLE FROM THE TRUTH AS THEY CAN.

ONLY THE MUCH MALIGNED SERGEANT CAN SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS ONE.

HERO OR TRAITOR? I DO NOT HAVE A CLUE AND NEITHER DO MOST TALKING ABOUT IT.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bergdahl; bobbergdahl; bowebergdahl; gitmo
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Have you noticed that Daddy Jihad has been disappeared? The Obama Admin, realizing he was a skunk at the garden party, has hauled him out of the spotlight after his 15 minutes. But I remember his appearance and his statements.


21 posted on 06/06/2014 2:19:12 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
I've also noticed that Bowey is nowhere to be seen either.

Ubama's Wag-the-Bergdahls did not go as planned.

22 posted on 06/06/2014 2:21:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: CGASMIA68

Weak attempt at spreading disinformation to stop the truth from leaking out all over the place.

Weak, weak attempt.

Fellow platoon members won’t say things against each other unless they got a reason.

Mini-Bergdahl has all the earmarks of somethin’ that stinks to high heaven, and so does his pop, for that matter.

Global finance, US Soldiers on patrol in opium poppy fields, CIA and the White Hut heart Islam... all the stuff we see in the news obviously stinks, and it’s stinking obvious.


23 posted on 06/06/2014 2:23:50 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Oh, we won’t see him for years! Where are the Benghazi survivors? They’ve, apparently, been put on a desert island. Don’t mind if Daddy Jihad is forced to join them, that creep.


24 posted on 06/06/2014 2:25:02 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: CGASMIA68

Maybe Bergdude is an MKUltra dropout whose only use was the excuse to transfer 5 more CIA terrorists back into the field for them.


25 posted on 06/06/2014 2:31:23 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: CGASMIA68
Have we forgotten already?

From August 2013: US Military Caught Manipulating Social Media, Running Mass Propaganda Accounts

-PJ

26 posted on 06/06/2014 2:43:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: rlmorel

That’s what I’m thinking, Army Special Forces were not the type they wanted as POWs, and I don’t recall hearing of many taken alive.

Nick Rowe concealed the fact that he was a Green Beret.


27 posted on 06/06/2014 2:45:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: miss marmelstein
Where are the Benghazi survivors?

With the MA 370 passengers ?
28 posted on 06/06/2014 2:55:11 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: rlmorel
I would think the list of captured SF guys in Vietnam would be relatively small (comparatively speaking)

They never got Michael Hand, he disappeared on his own.
29 posted on 06/06/2014 3:03:25 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

A long list of missing folks!


30 posted on 06/06/2014 4:01:37 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: CGASMIA68

When his turn for fireguard came up, he was missing. But all kinds of political experts and untrusted foreign enemies are filling us in. What shows, is the broadcasting to the world of the lack of cohesion on that site and the consequence of kidnapping or desertion. The enemy will take advantage of that.


31 posted on 06/06/2014 5:06:30 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Exactly my thoughts....some things just don’t pass the sniff test


32 posted on 06/06/2014 5:19:40 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: rlmorel

Have to admit I don’t know even how to go about checking that....but I would think it is very small


33 posted on 06/06/2014 5:20:47 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: rlmorel

I don’t know how many were SF but I was able to find out that there a total of 1350 folks considered as POWs in Viet Nam. Some 765 were returned after the war. The rest are part of that POW/MIA effort. Many have had remains returned since 1973 and were KIA.

So some yahoo without official name or identifier claims to be super unique....Now I am even more suspicious


34 posted on 06/06/2014 5:53:24 PM PDT by Nifster
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