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Cheeseboarding
Simple Justice ^ | 06/09/2014 | Scott H. Greenfield

Posted on 06/09/2014 8:47:13 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Old guy in the cell: What are you in for?

New guy in the cell: I aged cheese on wooden boards.

Old guy: Oh. (Moves away slowly.)

From Walter Olson at Overlawyered, the FDA has interpreted the Food Safety Modernization Act to preclude the aging of cheese on wood boards. Much as you may not think this touches your life, it does if you happen to enjoy any better cheese than velveeta. From CheeseUnderground:

A sense of disbelief and distress is quickly rippling through the U.S. artisan cheese community, as the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) this week announced it will not permit American cheesemakers to age cheese on wooden boards.

And, one would presume that this also means cheeses aged in France on wood boards won’t be allowed into the country. There will be mass cheese seizures at the border, with camembert dumped into the Atlantic like bales of marijuana.

But don’t despair, cheese lovers. Monsanto-Halliburton Cheese Corporation products never touch wood. And a little recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH) has never been conclusively proven to harm any child.

If you were concerned that Gibson Guitars presented an unnecessary show of force when the SWAT team rolled in to seize the offending ebony fretboards, it won’t be much prettier to have the armored vehicle crash through a cheesemaker’s door.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.simplejustice.us ...


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Food
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; cheese; fda
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1 posted on 06/09/2014 8:47:13 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Personally I don’t belive in Raw milk, however I think if people want to risk drinking it and they see benfit who am I to stop them.

I take the same stance on this cheese board thing, if you wanna eat it go ahead.

If you get sick, not my problem, if your child gets sick and dies, again, not my problem, your problem and you handle the consequences yourself.


2 posted on 06/09/2014 8:55:19 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Rusty0604

Gibson and Cheeseboarding are just the beginning of the push to remove anything and everything that makes life a little nicer for the drones. Drones aren’t allowed to have anything nice.

I love Gibsons and real cheese.

How dare I?


3 posted on 06/09/2014 8:56:41 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Rusty0604

I thought cheeseboarding was some new form of interrogation.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 8:56:52 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: GraceG

However, the nanny state liberals don’t feel the same.


5 posted on 06/09/2014 8:57:10 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Ray76

That’s just for Packers fans.


6 posted on 06/09/2014 8:58:18 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: GraceG
I take the same stance on this cheese board thing, if you wanna eat it go ahead.

Hate to break it to you, but this is the way most of the world has made cheese for most of history, and it's still the way it's done in most of the world.

Cheesemaking is a process of controlled spoilage. This is true no matter what kind of aging board it sits on.

7 posted on 06/09/2014 8:58:36 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: GraceG
Raw milk spoiled store-bought milk for me. I cannot drink anything from a store any more. Raw milk is so much better than anything else.

And it makes the ultimate in home made ice cream.

8 posted on 06/09/2014 8:59:19 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Rusty0604
If they had their way, this would be every Cheese Shop:

Customer: It's not much of a cheese shop, is it?

Owner: Finest in the district!

Customer: Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please.

Owner: Well, it's so clean, sir!

Customer: It's certainly uncontaminated by cheese....

9 posted on 06/09/2014 8:59:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

LMAO.


10 posted on 06/09/2014 9:00:13 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Oberon

I hate the food Nazi’s bitching about our food supply.

We already have one of the most safe food supplies inthe world already, and they keep creating this “food safety crisis” in order to seize more power.


11 posted on 06/09/2014 9:01:27 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Rusty0604
And a little recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH) has never been conclusively proven to harm any child.

Actually it has never been proved to harm anyone or anything, including the cows given it. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good smear.

Oh and by the way because of the < bleep > storm kicked up by these people rBGH is rarely if ever used any more.

Which is partly why the cost of dairy is going up and up and up.

12 posted on 06/09/2014 9:01:53 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: GraceG

Take it you don’t care much for cheese as this is how the majority of cheeses - anywhere - are made.


13 posted on 06/09/2014 9:02:05 AM PDT by apoxonu
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To: Oberon

“The alternative is to live in a world of tasteless sanitary perfection. Every effort to eliminate any possibility of harm brings us closer to assured mediocrity, where humans will only be able to taste flavors made in labs and designed to meet the expectations and demand of the lowest common denominators.”


14 posted on 06/09/2014 9:03:26 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: ShadowAce

Know how the red-neck died drinking milk?

The cow kicked him.


15 posted on 06/09/2014 9:04:31 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: apoxonu

[ Take it you don’t care much for cheese as this is how the majority of cheeses - anywhere - are made. ]

Actually i love cheese and eat a fair amount every day.

I was making a point about how even if I don;t agree with the ways of making cheese I don;t begrudge anyone’s right to eat it.


16 posted on 06/09/2014 9:04:54 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Rusty0604

studies have shown that wooden cutting boards have less pathogens than plastic cutting boards. what influence does palstic have on cheese making?


17 posted on 06/09/2014 9:05:10 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: GraceG

I’ve learned a lot about raw milk the last couple of years. Since moving to KY I’ve met quite a few people that are seriously into it. It caused me to do some reading.

The only way they legally “sell” it here is to sell shares in the cow. And the cool thing is that when raw milk goes bad, it doesn’t rot. It becomes cheese.

But here is the creepy part: When the FDA targets a small family dairy (I’m talking a cow or two), they will watch and wait until the husband is gone, or even both husband and wife, leaving teenagers there, and then come in, identify themselves and start asking a lot of intimidating or, conversely, seemingly harmless questions. And if they get the answers they want, charges are filed.

More and more our government looks like the SS. The nation is becoming so fascist that anyone wanting to earn a living without working for a large corporation has to constantly watch their back or jump through insurmountable legal and regulatory hoops.

It’s easier to just do the Greek thing - Cash only...


18 posted on 06/09/2014 9:07:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Rusty0604

[ “The alternative is to live in a world of tasteless sanitary perfection. Every effort to eliminate any possibility of harm brings us closer to assured mediocrity, where humans will only be able to taste flavors made in labs and designed to meet the expectations and demand of the lowest common denominators.” ]

Some auto immune diseases have been linked to people growing up in a TOO STERILE environment, their immune system sits there looking for stuff to defend against and doesn;t find anythign so it attacks their own body.

Cases of Asthma are very rare rurally vs. urban.


19 posted on 06/09/2014 9:08:00 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Rusty0604
Exactly how many people have died are have become seriously ill from cheese that was cured on a wooden board? As compared to mass produced cheese that was contaminated because it was over handled during processing?

This applies to all foods that are heavily processed. Processed foods are the reason for excessive use of preservatives, salt, and chemicals.

20 posted on 06/09/2014 9:08:26 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: dfwgator

Simply one of their best. I like it more than even the Parrot sketch.


21 posted on 06/09/2014 9:08:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: jimfr

The gov’t doesn’t care about facts. This is probably crony politics.

“But don’t despair, cheese lovers. Monsanto-Halliburton Cheese Corporation products never touch wood.”


22 posted on 06/09/2014 9:09:49 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Ray76

“I thought cheeseboarding was some new form of interrogation”

It is! You hang ‘em upside down, and spray Cheez Whiz up their nose.


23 posted on 06/09/2014 9:10:49 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GraceG

You are correct. I warn everyone that constantly cleaning their kid’s hands with anti-biotic wipes is not a good idea.


24 posted on 06/09/2014 9:12:01 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Actually, rBGH has never been proven to increase net production. It has been proven to increase mastitis and reduce the overall productive lifespan of cows.

The cost of milk is not the result of Luddites, but over-regulation by agencies without oversight and government market intervention.
Conservatives are generally opposed to both of the latter.


25 posted on 06/09/2014 9:12:26 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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To: cuban leaf

[ But here is the creepy part: When the FDA targets a small family dairy (I’m talking a cow or two), they will watch and wait until the husband is gone, or even both husband and wife, leaving teenagers there, and then come in, identify themselves and start asking a lot of intimidating or, conversely, seemingly harmless questions. And if they get the answers they want, charges are filed. ]

The FDA has become the defacto enforcement arm of the Big Food and Big Drug monopolies who keep their monopoly on power by claiming they do everything for the “public good”...

Sounds like Big Government doesn’t work out very well for the little/medium sized guy.


26 posted on 06/09/2014 9:14:20 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

if there were no ‘food safety crisis’ there’d be little need for the food nazis... or the taxes that support their little empires

same with police and crime. they let them out early so crime will increase... driving up the cries for more protection and the acceptance of higher taxes (to keep you safe, dontcha know)


27 posted on 06/09/2014 9:18:11 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Rusty0604
This issue and others from the FDA are based on a valid concept of minimizing the danger to susceptible individuals. If one person can be kept from harm by the increase in regulation, then this is the proper use of government [Liberal Truism!]

A counter-argument is that many people believe that the ever increasing move to antiseptic lifestyles from birth on does real damage to the individual's immune system. Yet this is harder to prove and has no 'point of advocacy' group and is beneficial only to the population and society as a whole.

Which viewpoint is the correct one becomes the issue. For me, it becomes an issue of wanting less government and less regulation and accepting a minimal increase in risk.

Free the boarded cheese!

28 posted on 06/09/2014 9:19:25 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Rusty0604
“The alternative is to live in a world of tasteless sanitary perfection.

Ground work for Soylant Green.

29 posted on 06/09/2014 9:19:36 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: GraceG
There is no science behind the decision to outlaw the wood, only speculation. This is not the same as the raw milk problem.

The powers that be once disdained wooden cutting boards based on this same argument of speculation they weren't clean. A scientific study showed it was a false premise, in fact wood had certain inherent antimicrobial qualities.

30 posted on 06/09/2014 9:21:39 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: antidisestablishment
Actually you are wrong on both counts in your first paragraph.

You are both right and wrong in the second. It is government over regulations which are pushed by the Luddites. Most regulations come from some bunch of city dwelling dumbos pushing some badly done research.

"Can you prove that your feeding the cow clover will never cause harm to anyone or anything ever? No?"

And the next thing you know there is a regulation against feeding cows clover.

31 posted on 06/09/2014 9:24:28 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
some new form of interrogation

cheeseboard

cheese (and bacon) boarding


32 posted on 06/09/2014 9:25:07 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Ray76

I thought cheeseboarding was some new form of interrogation.


I would have preferred us cheeseboarding them than waterboarding them. It would be less likely that Obama would be able to return the terrorists.


33 posted on 06/09/2014 9:26:06 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Cold Heart

[ A scientific study showed it was a false premise, in fact wood had certain inherent antimicrobial qualities. ]

Probably also depends onthe wood itself, I am sure some wood types are more anti microbal than others.


34 posted on 06/09/2014 9:37:59 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Rusty0604
If you outlaw wood board aged cheese, only outlaws will have wood board aged cheese. Pretty soon we will all be outlaws and the law will search us out. Kids will be told to turn their cheese eating parents into the cops. Cheese heads will not just be Packers Fans anymore but hippies, passing around the cheddar. This whole thin stinks like Limburger on a braunschweiger sandwich.
35 posted on 06/09/2014 9:38:28 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: SES1066

” This issue and others from the FDA are based on a valid concept of minimizing the danger to susceptible individuals. If one person can be kept from harm by the increase in regulation, then this is the proper use of government [Liberal Truism!] “

I absolutely LOATHE the whole PSA industry adfs that interrupt my iheart stream of Mark Levin every day, sammy and g-d damned sliders, the buzzed driver and buckle your seat belt PSAs all annoy me to a state of mild rage.

The government should never ever have to advertise common sense, ever if it has it has failed abnd society has failed.

The liberals demand we teach suvival of the fitest in the classroom and yet they also insist we coddle the same idiot they failed to educate in the government run schools stuff that is common sense...

It annoys the crap out of me.

I do cook my meat, i do buckle my seatbelt, I don;t drive after drinking booze.

Why?

Because it is common sense, not because the governmenr crammed the info down my throat.


36 posted on 06/09/2014 9:44:55 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

The enemy of the Amarican people is the two sided coin of big government and big business. It’s funny in a way. Liberals hate big business while conservatives hate big government. In reality they are two sides of the same coin and conserviatives and liberals are effectively played against each other. It’s why I very much see the republican and democrat parties as two sides of the same party constantly playing “good cop, bad cop” with us.

The enemy of big business/government is small business. And they are doing all they can to erradicate it.


37 posted on 06/09/2014 9:44:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: GraceG

I was a very sick child. I had a truckload of allergies, plus asthma. Was I kept in a hermetically sealed room? Hell no! I was given an epi-pen and an inhaler and told to go play in God’s back 40. Because of that the only thing I still have a problem with is asthma, and that’s not very bad since I moved to the country. let kids get dirty and explore, that’s the only way they’ll build a halfway decent immune system.

CC


38 posted on 06/09/2014 9:45:49 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: dblshot

We must protect the people from some made up crisis otherwise the dept. of protecting people from themselves from dumd decisions will lose it’s budget next year and they will have to lay people off, won’t someone think of the beurcrat’s children?


39 posted on 06/09/2014 9:47:15 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Rusty0604; All
Blessed are the Cheesemakers.


40 posted on 06/09/2014 9:49:50 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: GraceG

You should adopt a Longer View of Progressive tyranny. They will keep squeezing, and be startled when there is a massive reaction.


41 posted on 06/09/2014 9:50:47 AM PDT by jonascord (Laeti vescimur nos subacturis)
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To: dblshot

Does this mean aging in wooden casks may soon be next?

DK


42 posted on 06/09/2014 9:54:48 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: GraceG

Damnit, my body decided I was lactose intolerant two years ago so the only milk products I can have are those treated or well aged cheese, most of which are aged on wood.


43 posted on 06/09/2014 9:55:24 AM PDT by Raymann
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To: Raymann

Damnit, my body decided I was lactose intolerant two years ago so the only milk products I can have are those treated or well aged cheese, most of which are aged on wood.

Kroger makes a decent lactose free milk called “Carbmatser” milk that isn’t half bad and has a really good protein to calorie ratio.


44 posted on 06/09/2014 10:03:13 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

“milk that isn’t half bad...”
Only drink the good half:)


45 posted on 06/09/2014 10:08:17 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: GraceG

The wood does more than just absorb excess moisture. It imparts distinctive flavors absorbed by the cheese, depending on what wood is used and how the wood is treated. Cheddar, Swiss, and many other aged cheeses would not taste the same without the wood, which has been in-use for over a millennium.


46 posted on 06/09/2014 10:09:20 AM PDT by apoxonu
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To: Rusty0604



47 posted on 06/09/2014 10:12:05 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: left that other site

And home made whiskey, although it is illegal and I would never drink it. I just mean I like it in a metaphysical sense. Yeah.


48 posted on 06/09/2014 10:13:53 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: jstaff

Single Malt? LOL!


49 posted on 06/09/2014 10:22:01 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Actually, there is propaganda on both sides, but you are either uniformed or ?

Even the USDA admits that it increases mastitis in this pro rBGH article.

Less partisan studies, such as this by Canadian Veterinarians, show a marked increase in mastitis and an increase in culling (thereby decreasing the productive life of a cow).

I have no problems with farmers choosing to use the drug or not, but allowing the market to decide is the best route. Anecdotally, my friends who own dairies chose not to use rBGH for the reasons stated above--long before the consumer scares made it popular. And BTW, arguing that not adopting a change can be the reason for any change (such as price) is not remotely logical.

50 posted on 06/09/2014 10:26:55 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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