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Bradshaw on Peyton: If you like losing Super Bowls, hes your guy
NBC Sports ^ | June 19, 2014 | Michael David Smith

Posted on 06/19/2014 1:01:09 PM PDT by kingattax

Former Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw says current Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning is great — as long as you stop watching after the regular season ends.

Bradshaw said during his his one-man show, America’s Favorite Dumb Blonde, that he views Manning as a regular-season star and a playoff choker.

“Peyton Manning, considered the best quarterback to play the game today. Nobody would argue with that — if you like winning good during the season and losing Super Bowls, that’s your guy,” Bradshaw said, via PFT Commenter.

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a lot of fans are going to say that was a cheap shot.
1 posted on 06/19/2014 1:01:09 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

And a lot of us will agree.


2 posted on 06/19/2014 1:02:46 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: kingattax

Bradshaw is your typical sports announcer PC liberal. He has to be if he wants to keep his job. With that said, I don’t put too much stock in what he says about anything.


3 posted on 06/19/2014 1:03:50 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: kingattax
Might be, but the fact is that Peyton doesn't play well in big games!

Maybe the fact is that playing the best teams you need to have a running game, which Peyton's team ignore since Peyton is the star.

Elway didn't win his Super Bowls, until Denver got a 1st rate running game.

4 posted on 06/19/2014 1:05:23 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: kingattax

Considering his position as a studio analyst, it was.

Look we are not talking about a guy who does color commentary or play by play during the game.

Bradshaw is a studio voice for Fox’s NFL studio show.

For him, that is uncalled for.If I were Peyton, I would never do another Fox interview until he personalty apologized.

You never would have heard those words come from NFL voices in the past.

Low, very low Terry.


5 posted on 06/19/2014 1:06:21 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: kingattax
Yep, what a loser.


6 posted on 06/19/2014 1:07:27 PM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: kingattax
Yup, it's a shot and it's on the cheap side.
7 posted on 06/19/2014 1:09:14 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
And a first rate defense doesn’t hurt either. I would think that Mr. Bradshaw would not have been to any championship games if not for the Steel Curtain.
8 posted on 06/19/2014 1:09:20 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: freedomson

Great pic.
Truly a stand-up guy.
I’m not a Colts fan, but Mannning is a class act.


9 posted on 06/19/2014 1:09:38 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: kingattax

It is a cheap shot. Which doesn’t make it false.


10 posted on 06/19/2014 1:10:38 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: kingattax

cheap shot indeed


11 posted on 06/19/2014 1:10:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: VerySadAmerican

PC, I agree. He didn’t have much good to say about Hillary on Fox the other day though and he is qualified to speak on football being a 4time super bowl champ in 6 yrs. A feat still not bested.


12 posted on 06/19/2014 1:11:19 PM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: kingattax

Just uncalled for.


13 posted on 06/19/2014 1:12:25 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: kingattax

It memory serves, Tom Brady has lost more Super Bowls than Payton Manning. So why isn’t Brady “your guy”, dumbass?


14 posted on 06/19/2014 1:12:39 PM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yes, you need a running game and a good defense to actually win the Super Bowl. Problem is, Peyton Manning commands an enormous salary. With that amount of money going to Manning, his teams don’t actually have the room under the cap to build a decent team around him.

It seems to be the case league wide. Brady won his Super Bowls before he got his truly big money. The Steelers won a couple of Super Bowls before Roethlisberger got paid. The Giants did not win Super Bowls after Eli Manning got the money. The Ravens haven’t won since the gave Flacco the big bucks. It may not be a hard and fast rule, but it sure seems that having a big money QB is not necessarily the best way to build a Super Bowl winner.


15 posted on 06/19/2014 1:14:52 PM PDT by stremba
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To: sappy
Worst touchdown pass–interception ratio, season in modern era: 1:4 (6 TDs, 24 INTs), Terry Bradshaw, 1970
16 posted on 06/19/2014 1:15:00 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: VerySadAmerican

Didn’t Bradshaw also agree that the Redskins’ name SHOULD be changed? What happened to him?


17 posted on 06/19/2014 1:15:18 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: kingattax

I like Manning, but come on.....he’s 11-12 in his playoff history. He’s been knocked out in the first round of the playoffs, what, like 6 times ? He’s not in my top 5 of all time. Montana, Brady, Elway, Star & Young in any order you want.


18 posted on 06/19/2014 1:15:42 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Common Sense 101

Probably because Brady has also won 3 to Manning’s 1. If a QB wins 1 people can always say it was a fluke. Winning multiples kind of silences that kind of talk.


19 posted on 06/19/2014 1:17:04 PM PDT by stremba
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To: Common Sense 101

They’ve both lost 2. But there’s a lot of difference between being 1-2 and 3-2. 3 rings puts Brady in rarefied air, not many QB get that many. And 5 total trips even with 2 loses is also a rare feat.


20 posted on 06/19/2014 1:18:45 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: Jane Long

Yes he did.


21 posted on 06/19/2014 1:19:23 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

I know right? but 4 super bowl championships in 6yrs. and 1970 was his rookie year. His numbers really don’t compare at all to Brady, or Manning or Marino, but when you win 4, that’s really all that matters.


22 posted on 06/19/2014 1:21:06 PM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: Common Sense 101
It memory serves, Tom Brady has lost more Super Bowls than Payton Manning. So why isn’t Brady “your guy”, dumbass?

Your memory is not serving you. Try google.

23 posted on 06/19/2014 1:21:35 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: kingattax

As a Seahawk fan....I predicted the blowout (said it would be by at least 18) because Peyton relies on timing routs and adjusting the play to the defense he is presented at the line of scrimmage.

Seattle Just presses and plays physical and that throws off the timing...and they don’t do many stunts or odd tricks on defense.

That made it a competition between athletes and if you lined up both teams and ranked them on skill (offense vs defensive players for both teams).....only a few of the Bronco’s defensive lineman would have topped the Seattle offensive linemen.

my two cents.


24 posted on 06/19/2014 1:22:21 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (This town needs an enema)
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To: sappy

Rings count, a lot, but it’s not all about rings. Marino was a great QB....but the only Superbowl he went to, he lost.


25 posted on 06/19/2014 1:22:54 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: 2001convSVT
“And a first rate defense doesn’t hurt either. I would think that Mr. Bradshaw would not have been to any championship games if not for the Steel Curtain.”

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Bradshaw also had an outstanding running back in Franco Harris plus 2 of the best wide receivers of that era, Lynn Swann and John Stallworth. He had to because despite all the stats and hoopla, Bradshaw was really an erratic quarterback. In particular, he couldn't throw. His receivers had to do some spectacular acrobatics to catch any of the balls he threw. Bradshaw wouldn't have been touted as a great quarterback were it not for his teammates.

26 posted on 06/19/2014 1:24:24 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: LongWayHome

Agreed. No doubt!


27 posted on 06/19/2014 1:25:18 PM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: sappy

If you have to pick one guy I would go with Montana. Tremendous QB.


28 posted on 06/19/2014 1:27:00 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: kingattax
It's a team sport.

It's not right to put wins or losses on any one player. Way too many variables.

29 posted on 06/19/2014 1:29:14 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: kingattax
Bradshaw is really a dumb (what's left of) blond and proves you don't have to be smart to win Super Bowls.

He's too dumb to form an intelligent opinion!

30 posted on 06/19/2014 1:30:44 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Good point. That’s why it’s difficult to say one guy is it....but Manning, in my opinion, lacks big game talent. If I was picking a QB, in his prime, for my team, it would not be Manning.


31 posted on 06/19/2014 1:31:24 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: kingattax

I think Bradshaw ha shad too much sun on his noggin. And I am a longh time Steeler fan. Payton is 1 of the greatest ever, hands down. If not the greatest.
This past year he ran against a stupid Seahawk team that was flat out amazing! I can’t stand the stupid Seahawks but man what a great team they have right now.


32 posted on 06/19/2014 1:31:57 PM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: LongWayHome

The big problem I see with Peyton is actually his OCs. So much gets made of Peyton being so smart and calling his own plays and being almost a coach, but when the games get big coaching matters more and more. And his coaches never seem to push him in the right direction, they always seem comfortable letting Peyton be Peyton. You can see that in his SB loss to The Saints, anybody that’s ever watched Peyton knows he loves to throw to the left flat when the blitz comes from that side, you’ll see him do it 2 or 3 times a game... including the interception NO ran back for the TD that effectively won the game. Because they had 2 weeks to watch tape and lure him into that play with a fake blitz on that side the had the LB drop to cover Peyton’s favorite spot. Good coaches would have spent the 2 weeks telling Peyton not to do that pass because everybody knows he loves it and Gregg Williams will have a plan for it. But Peyton’s coaches never seem to want to control him like that.


33 posted on 06/19/2014 1:37:19 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: kingattax
Unfortunately, I have to agree with Bradshaw on this one. Look at how the Seahawks' defense literally mauled every traditional drop back quarterback during the last NFL season, including Peyton Manning.

In short, you need a quarterback that can pass well from the pocket but be able to run and escape the pass rush on an as-needed basis. That's why Russell Wilson was so effective--he could run to escape the pass rush if needed.

34 posted on 06/19/2014 1:38:53 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: discostu

Manning has bounced around in different systems with different coaching staffs so he has not had the stability like Brady has had, but in crunch time I don’t think Payton can hold himself together very well. I’ve seen his fall apart in the first round of the playoffs against teams he should have beat with ease.


35 posted on 06/19/2014 1:42:24 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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Ahhh, Chuck Noll’s Pittsburgh Steroiders————better winning through chemistry.


36 posted on 06/19/2014 1:48:13 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: LongWayHome

I wouldn’t say Manning has bounced around at all. He spent most of his career under Dungy, and when Dungy retired he was replaced by his QB coach. So that was all the same system, which boiled down to let Peyton call his own plays. Now he’s in Denver but the system still seems to be let Peyton do whatever he wants.

The problem is the self coaching player will eventually be out coached by a full time coach. Which sets him up for falling apart, because he’s got nobody to fall back on. If you put Peyton’s work ethic and smarts with a team that actually coached him he’d probably have 4 or even 5 rings. But somehow or another all his coaches seem to not want to do that.


37 posted on 06/19/2014 1:48:20 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: LongWayHome

With many of the great QB’s, you have a key WR that has a lot to do with the success of the offense, and the team. Imagine Montana without Rice, Bradshaw without Swann or Stallworth? Manning had Marvin Harrison for years, and put up some big numbers. Brady seems to be able to do good with just about any receiver.


38 posted on 06/19/2014 1:48:21 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Yup....which is why I would take Brady over Manning every day of the week.


39 posted on 06/19/2014 1:50:34 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: discostu

I think Manning lacks big game instincts. I won’t say he chokes, but he often comes up small, and you can’t coach that.


40 posted on 06/19/2014 1:52:06 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Roger Staubach


41 posted on 06/19/2014 1:53:57 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: All

in college, Bradshaw sat on the bench for 2 years and only got to be the starter when Phil Robertson (Duck Dynasty) quit football because he preferred to go duck hunting.

so if you love a backup bench warming QB, bradshaw is your guy.


42 posted on 06/19/2014 1:55:14 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: All

heres a question :

with the same lineup and Brady at QB instead of Manning, would the Broncos have beaten the Seahawks ?

my answer is NO. Seattle would have won no matter who the Broncos QB was.


43 posted on 06/19/2014 1:58:33 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: stremba

The Ravens haven’t won since the gave Flacco the big bucks.

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LOL. You do realize that it’s been only 1 season since Flacco got the big bucks, right?

And yes, we Ravens fans were in complete denial about the loss of leadership Ray Lewis’ retirement would mean for the team.


44 posted on 06/19/2014 2:01:23 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Common Sense 101

Because he was also won more maybe. 2 more to be exact. 1 less than Bradshaw.


45 posted on 06/19/2014 2:04:04 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Jane Long

Yep, but he didn’t have any suggestions for changing the Fighting Irish or the Seminoles etc. Again, if he was to say he’s for keeping the Redskin name he’s probably lose his job. It’s hard to find anyone these days who don’t have a price.


46 posted on 06/19/2014 2:10:13 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: kingattax

Jim Kelly lost four. John Elway lost three. Those are your guys for losing Super Bowls.


47 posted on 06/19/2014 2:10:13 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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To: freedomson

He never beat Florida.


48 posted on 06/19/2014 2:12:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: VerySadAmerican

“Bradshaw is your typical sports announcer PC liberal.”

Meanwhile Brett Favre is making political commercials for Thad Cochran in Mississippi.


49 posted on 06/19/2014 2:16:20 PM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Jane Long
Bradshaw was on FOX's new program "Outnumbered" yesterday morning....wifey and both thought he was either stroke-numbed or under the influence of something.

He could hardly get the sh*t out of his mouth.

50 posted on 06/19/2014 2:29:07 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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