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Marine Lands Jet Vertically Without Nose Gear
Yahoo News ^ | 6/27/14 | Ralphie Aversa

Posted on 06/27/2014 12:12:23 PM PDT by Kartographer

Mahoney slowed down and called for help. He was flying solo and communicated with a landing signal officer, who can act as a co-pilot of sorts from the ground. Mahoney approached the USS Bataan at about 300 feet, so the LSO could see the landing gear and diagnose the issue. The LSO, nicknamed "Paddles," confirmed that the nose gear did not come back down.

It was then that Mahoney was informed of a stool built for this particular situation. By lining up the nose of the jet with this invention, it was possible for the pilot to conduct a vertical landing. Mahoney had no experience with this.

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I wonder how long it took after landing for his buttocks to unclench the seat? ;-)
1 posted on 06/27/2014 12:12:23 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

“It was then that Mahoney was informed of a stool built for this particular situation.”

___________________________
thinking to himself “Oh, sure...NOW you tell me...”


2 posted on 06/27/2014 12:15:57 PM PDT by ransomnote
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Sounds like the Navy knew it had a nose gear problem already, and prepared for the possibility.


3 posted on 06/27/2014 12:16:02 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Kartographer
To view the video (which, by the way, was broadcast in English) I was forced to endure a TIDE commercial in Spanish!
4 posted on 06/27/2014 12:21:36 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Kartographer

It’s a Harrier for goodness sake, built to take off and land like a helo. Still a good days work. Sand bags have been used for helicocpters like this before.


5 posted on 06/27/2014 12:25:03 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: Talisker

Harriers are known as “lawn darts”. Good thing it was just the nose gear. Good job by the pilot and crew to save it.


6 posted on 06/27/2014 12:26:19 PM PDT by Rick66
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To: Kartographer
When I first saw the headline, I thought, "Great. Another F-35b crap-up".

Then I saw the video and realized it was a Harrier.

7 posted on 06/27/2014 12:28:06 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Kartographer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go8lugwx9Ek

Why does Yahoo video suck so much?


8 posted on 06/27/2014 12:29:24 PM PDT by cynwoody
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Marine Lands Jet Vertically Without Nose Gear!!!

Holy Crap! says I. I've got to see this. Oh. It's a Harrier they are designed to land vertically. I was expecting to see an F18 settling tail first into some contraption rigged to catch it. An aircraft designed to land vertically and doing so isn't really that stupendous of a feat.
9 posted on 06/27/2014 12:29:38 PM PDT by 762X51
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To: Kartographer

BUTT CLENCH PING !


10 posted on 06/27/2014 12:30:40 PM PDT by Einherjar
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To: Talisker

Everything isnt a conspiracy. The Harrier isn’t known for gear failures. More like the Navy knew that gear failures happen on -every- plane in the inventory, bar none. But that the Harrier is the only one you could possibly settle down into a cradle with little more expense than a sawhorse,,,,with no damage.

Good planning ahead USN/USMC.


11 posted on 06/27/2014 12:32:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Kartographer

12 posted on 06/27/2014 12:32:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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I would think it would be a lot easier to get a large inflatable tube and lay it across the path of the jet so the pilot could see it and more easily judge the impact point (or yes, sandbags, foam, or whatever). Yes, the pilot did a good job with the stool, but why a stool that the pilot can’t see in the first place? Just saying.


13 posted on 06/27/2014 12:34:41 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Kartographer

Amazing!


14 posted on 06/27/2014 12:35:29 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 762X51

Easy to say when you aren’t in the pilot seat.


15 posted on 06/27/2014 12:35:44 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: cynwoody; Chode; SgtBob; B4Ranch; nascarnation

All in a days work Ping!

Beats having a 105 round tossed into yer bedroom...


16 posted on 06/27/2014 12:38:55 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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“It was then that Mahoney was informed of a stool built for this particular situation.”

Was it built in Blaine, Missouri?

Guffman

17 posted on 06/27/2014 12:39:32 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: 762X51

“and doing so isn’t really that stupendous of a feat.”

Sounds like you might not have been alone in that cockpit.

It already has a rep as one of the most difficult machines in our inventory to master. Coming in vertically on the gear has a small margin of error. But hitting the deck a couple of feet, one side or the other, probably won’t cause any issue.
But settling it down -precisely- into a cradle, without the shock absorbing landing gear, on the moving deck of a ship really was kinda a stupendous feat. Good flying Marine.


18 posted on 06/27/2014 12:39:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Kartographer

I’d have soiled my flightsuit for sure...but this came out much better than most “vertical landings” do.


19 posted on 06/27/2014 12:42:11 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Philsworld

A few feet away from the intakes, and a few more feet away from downward vectored exhausts. Why do you think they might not elect to use a big inflatable tube?


20 posted on 06/27/2014 12:42:16 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ransomnote

Did you *read* the article? They told him about it and he successfully landed on the stool.


21 posted on 06/27/2014 12:57:55 PM PDT by 22202NOVA (Tagline? I don't need no stinking tagline!)
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My eye is twitching, but I’m a Marine mom. More good landing stories in comments at link.


22 posted on 06/27/2014 1:04:45 PM PDT by huldah1776
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What’s the big deal? He’s a MARINE.

Semper fi
Do or die


23 posted on 06/27/2014 1:07:47 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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It was then that Mahoney was informed of a stool built for this particular situation.

May have made one of his own.

He then could have sent his "gently used underwear" to Obama.

24 posted on 06/27/2014 1:09:50 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: NTHockey

25 posted on 06/27/2014 1:10:22 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 762X51
I was expecting to see an F18 settling tail first into some contraption rigged to catch it.

That's what the headline sounds like. It made me think of the X-13 Vertijet.

26 posted on 06/27/2014 1:36:10 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Give Obama Power)
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To: cynwoody; Kartographer

I was imagining a landing with the plane vertical; with the nose pointed towards the earth and the tail sticking up in the air.

I doubt they would ever get the seat unclinched if that was the case.


27 posted on 06/27/2014 1:42:55 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Made me think of the old Harrier Skyhook project

This looks really impressive, but the Harrier can, and will (to anyone who's seen one at an airshow) stop and turn on a dime. Marine aviators are, universally, trained to a very high standard when it comes to maneuvering their aircraft. The beauty of the cradle is that it saved the centerline LITENING targeting pod, which would have been otherwise crushed ...
28 posted on 06/27/2014 1:50:31 PM PDT by tanknetter
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Bravo Zulu, Jarhead! Nice professional landing and interview. Semper Fi
TC


29 posted on 06/27/2014 1:50:32 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: DesertRhino
Everything isnt a conspiracy.

Well actually this WAS a conspiracy, by definition. Because more than one person conspired to create the nose "stool" to be used exactly for this situation. And, this situation could not occur without the plane trying to land, which would include a pilot at the controls. And, said pilot knew nothing about this nose stool.

Therefore the nose stool was create by multiple people without informing the very person who's life would depend on it's proper use. That's a conspiracy of silence, and a fairly serious one, since the life of the pilot would depend on him using it properly and pilots tend to like to know about their equipment and practice using them to keep from, like, dying.

So why do it? Only one reason comes to my mind - it was an issue they didn't want to worry the pilots about, because it would have meant more training, money, red tape, review problems, whatever for the Navy. BUT, it was also a problem they wanted to prepare for so as not to get a pilot killed over something they could prevent. Solution? Conspiracy. Make the nose stool, don't tell the pilot, only use it if necessary.

30 posted on 06/27/2014 1:59:53 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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it's pretty bad when it happens often enough that they have a ready made cradle...
31 posted on 06/27/2014 2:58:26 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: DesertRhino

use a heavy rubber bladder material. fill it with water. tie it down so it can’t move, whatever. But, make sure the pilot can see each end. Anything is better than a little stool the pilot can’t see in the first place. you know those bladders used to raise things off the bottom of the ocean? lots of other options that our tax dollars could come up with other than a stool.


32 posted on 06/28/2014 7:23:12 AM PDT by Philsworld
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It was then that Mahoney was informed of a stool built for this particular situation

There is a stool built for Just after this type of situation as well.

33 posted on 06/28/2014 7:40:37 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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Hoping they cover this in flight school for Ben.


34 posted on 06/28/2014 7:44:26 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: 22202NOVA

Yes. It’s just that article specified that he hadn’t heard about it before he had to use it, and i thought he’d probably like to have known about it before hand.


35 posted on 06/29/2014 11:54:26 PM PDT by ransomnote
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