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Who is a "Native American"? (vanity)
June 30, 2014 | me

Posted on 06/30/2014 11:04:07 AM PDT by reaganaut1

In our public elementary school, children are required to make a presentation about their "country of origin". I don't think students whose ancestors came from Mongolia should be forced to write about Mongolia -- it's none of the school's business.

One child in our daughter's class said her "country of origin" was America, since her ancestors came here more than a hundred years ago. Her teacher said that only "Native Americans" can claim the U.S. as their country of origin. I wonder if the use of the term "Native American" instead of the old "American Indian" is a way to suggest that someone whose ancestors have lived in the U.S. for generations is no more "native" than someone who immigrated here yesterday.


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1 posted on 06/30/2014 11:04:07 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

There is no such thing.

The Indians migrated over to the Western Hemisphere just like everyone else.


2 posted on 06/30/2014 11:07:35 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: reaganaut1

I made a distinction between recent immigrants and native-born recently to a Belgian. This reference resulted in a 5 minute discourse on defining our terms. The up-shot was, in her mind, there are no “native-born” Americans.


3 posted on 06/30/2014 11:09:23 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: reaganaut1

My country of origin is the United States. I was born here. I am therefore a native American.


4 posted on 06/30/2014 11:13:54 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: reaganaut1

These are “tribal americans”


5 posted on 06/30/2014 11:16:27 AM PDT by pass-the-biscuits-please
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To: reaganaut1

My Descendents signed the Declaration of Independence and my wife’s family dates back to the 1600s. I think we are both native Americans because we were here before America was a country.


6 posted on 06/30/2014 11:18:19 AM PDT by jrestrepo (See you all in Galt's gulch)
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To: reaganaut1

That teacher or whoever designed the curriculum is clearly of fairly recent immigrant origin, to think that every person has just one country of origin. There are those of us who cannot answer other than “American” because there just is no one country or group from which we arise. In my instance, despite having a surname that is as English as the day is long, it covers almost all of western Europe, the British Isles and several native tribes.


7 posted on 06/30/2014 11:18:26 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: reaganaut1
I always say I am. All of my relatives going back at least as far as the Civil War were born in the USA. Dumb teachers not with standing.

This what is annoying about liberals. Let's take St. Patrick's day for instance. This is a pet peeve of mine! Everybody and their brother Irish or not declare themselves Irish and go about getting drunk and stupid for a holiday that is not celebrated in Ireland in this manner. They eat food that is not eaten in Ireland. In Ireland it is a religious holy day, and cows are pretty scarce in Ireland. I have digressed. But it's crass and some say harmless. I disagree.

8 posted on 06/30/2014 11:24:06 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: reaganaut1

Oh, so teacher wants a paper on the original origin. I’d have my kid write a paper on the Garden of Eden and dare the teacher to not accept it.


9 posted on 06/30/2014 11:25:44 AM PDT by bgill
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To: reaganaut1

Where did “native Americans” come from? Certainly not this continent.


10 posted on 06/30/2014 11:27:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: reaganaut1

It infuriates my spouse’s family (Apache descendants) when I pull the family tree dating back to 1670 and tell them I am a native American. The spouse used to get irritated but has given up on me changing now.


11 posted on 06/30/2014 11:31:54 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: reaganaut1

A redskin.


12 posted on 06/30/2014 11:35:45 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: reaganaut1

In Canada they call them “aboriginal”, which is a lot more accurate, since everyone born here is a native American.


13 posted on 06/30/2014 11:38:09 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: All

I am a thirteenth generation American. How many generations are required before someone is “native”?


14 posted on 06/30/2014 11:40:01 AM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: reaganaut1

several years ago,
a big government HR/Personnel department sent “tell us your race” forms to all employees.
one fellow ticks the “Native American” box and returns the form.
shortly later, a Personnel lady calls him and tells him he had no business selecting “Native American”
his reply:
“I was born in Saint Louis, so I’m a Native American.” And since he’d answered her call, he terminated it.

At that time, (I just haven’t checked since is all) the law said the responder’s self-perception or self-identification was correct.


15 posted on 06/30/2014 11:50:42 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: reaganaut1

Hey, don’t worry about it. I’m Dakota Sioux.
Neither I nor any Indian friends and relatives of mine refer to ourselves as “Native Americans.” Only white liberals and their liberal Indian lackeys use that term.


16 posted on 06/30/2014 11:54:41 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: reaganaut1
Let me quote from a piece that I wrote 4 years ago, on the Ultimate Insult, for my Conservative Intelligence Center:

America is not a name dictated by the elements, nor emblazoned in the clouds over her. Rather, adapted from the name of a European explorer--the term "American," as member of a new ethnicity, was adopted by the European settlers, who had risen against the Mother country to achieve the freedom of their respective States, to represent a sense of common purpose--a purpose shortly reflected in their written Constitution . . . The confusion in Academia is demonstrated by the penchant to lump American Indian tribes together under the nomenclature "Native American"; a clear insult to proud peoples, who often laid down their lives, fighting to preserve their own unique nations in the lands of their fathers.

The original "Native Americans," then, are the descendants of those settlers who first made the "American" identification, as a self-description; those to whom that identification proclaimed adherence to an ethnicity born in those communities, rallying to the creation of a common purpose, born in a common historic struggle, and affirmed in a Constitutional Federation, dedicated to their "posterity."

Of course, the descendants of those whose forebears came afterwards, and won acceptance as "Americans," have generally accepted the same identification. The demonstration by Leftist theorists in academia, gratuitously imposing that identification on those who had laid down their lives to validate other identifications--proud tribal nations--is merely one more example of the arrogance of those who would deny history in the pursuit of cloudborne ideas.

William Flax

17 posted on 06/30/2014 11:56:46 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: reaganaut1

By the way, at most universities here, the department that specializes in Indian language and culture is called the “American Indian Department.”


18 posted on 06/30/2014 11:57:11 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: reaganaut1
I was born here
Both of my parents were born here
All four of their parents were born here.

After that, I don't know, or care.

19 posted on 06/30/2014 11:58:06 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: MNnice

See my post #17. You nail the issue, very well.


20 posted on 06/30/2014 11:59:58 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: reaganaut1

I always answer that with “Native American”, since I was born here.

If they object, I say I’m “African”, since my original ancestors came from there (according to science, and I have no problem with that).

If they object to that, I make them try to justify why they’re cherry-picking some specific number of generations, just to pidgin-hole me as “European”.

I’ve never gotten a coherent answer.


21 posted on 06/30/2014 12:01:22 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
I always answer that with “Native American”, since I was born here.

If they object, I say I’m “African”, since my original ancestors came from there (according to science, and I have no problem with that).

If they object to that, I make them try to justify why they’re cherry-picking some specific number of generations, just to pidgin-hole me as “European”.

I’ve never gotten a coherent answer.

Indeed! The scientists tell us that the hominids originated in African, so anyone born in America is an African-American.

22 posted on 06/30/2014 12:04:16 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: reaganaut1

Me. I was born in Brooklyn, NYC so that’ll make me a Brooklyn-American.


23 posted on 06/30/2014 12:15:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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I am Ani-Yun-Wiya (if you don’t know, look it up)

I say what difference does it make what we are called?


24 posted on 06/30/2014 12:24:19 PM PDT by Boonie
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To: Gunpowder green

Based on the most recent immigrant in my direct line, I’m a third-generation American myself, but I had ancestors on both sides of my family in the colonies prior to the Revolution.


25 posted on 06/30/2014 12:32:11 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: bgill

Better yet, write about the Flood and where the “natives” had to migrate from and their ancestral origins. Use DNA evidence to confound them even more.


26 posted on 06/30/2014 12:35:52 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: jrestrepo

My dad’s side can be traced back to William Bradford. I usually just claim “American”, since I was born here - as was my daughters. Although I do mix is up on the school forms occasionally and put “Texas”; or check all the ethnicities, as I’ve got a little bit of everything. I’m a Heinz57, if you will.


27 posted on 06/30/2014 1:54:38 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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To: reaganaut1

A native American is an American who was born American.


28 posted on 06/30/2014 3:04:50 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: reaganaut1

I am a native American!!! I was borne in Albuquerque, NM on April 21, 1938. Should I be getting special treatment?


29 posted on 07/01/2014 5:29:13 PM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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