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John Wayne or Clint Eastwood ?
7-4-14 | kingattax

Posted on 07/04/2014 2:16:48 AM PDT by kingattax

John Wayne and Clint Eastwood are probably the greatest western stars and are the greatest American movie heroes for many people. Vote for your favorite.



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can't go against "the Duke".
1 posted on 07/04/2014 2:16:48 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Yep. “Life is hard. It’s even harder when you’re stupid.”


2 posted on 07/04/2014 2:18:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: kingattax

There is I doubt...John Wayne


3 posted on 07/04/2014 2:24:18 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Supposed to sai no doubt... Got to remember to turn off auto fill


4 posted on 07/04/2014 2:25:19 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: kingattax

Wayne. Clint is good but can’t match Wayne.

McClintock, Katy Elder, North to Alaska, The Alamo are just a few of my favs.


5 posted on 07/04/2014 2:36:34 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Stop the Stupid!)
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To: kingattax

John Wayne...84 westerns...the list is here

1930
The Big Trail

1931
The Range Fued

1932
Two-Fisted Law
Texas Cyclone
Ride Him Cowboy
Haunted Gold
The Big Stampede

1933
The Telegraph Trail
Somewhere In Sonora
Sagebrush Trail
Riders of Destiny
The Man From Monterey

1934
West of The Devide
The Trail Beyond
The Star Packer
Randy Rides Alone
The Man From Utah
The Lucky Texan
The Lawless Frontier
Blue Steel
Neath The Arizona Skies

1935
Westward Ho
Texas Terror
Rainbow Valley
Paradise Canyon
The New Frontier
Lawless Range
The Desert Trail
The Dawn Rider

1936
Winds Of The Wasteland
The Lonely Trail
The Lawless Nineties
King of The Pecos

1937
California Straight Ahead

1938
Born to The West
Santa Fe Stampede
Red River Range
Pals of The Saddle
Overland Stage Raiders

1939
Wyoming Outlaw
Three Texas Steers
The Night Riders
New Frontier
Allegheny Uprising
Stagecoach

1940
The Dark Command

1941
Lady From Louisiana

1942
The Spoilers
In Old California

1943
A Lady Takes A Chance

1943
War of The Wildcats (In Old Oklahoma)

1944
Tall In The Saddle

1945
Dakota
Flame of Barbary Coast

1947
Angel and The Badman

1948
3 Godfathers
Fort Apache
Red River

1949
The Fighting Kentuckian
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

1950
Rio Grande

1953
Hondo

1956
The Searchers

1959
The Horse Soldiers
Rio Bravo

1960
The Alamo
North to Alaska

1961
The Comancheros

1962
How The West Was Won
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

1963
Mclintock!

1965
The Sons of Katie Elder

1967
El Dorado
The War Wagon

1969
True Grit
The Undefeated

1970
Chisum
Rio Lobo

1971
Big Jake

1972
The Cowboys

1973
Cahill-United States Marshal
The Train Robbers

1975
Rooster Cogburn

1976
The Shootist


6 posted on 07/04/2014 2:36:34 AM PDT by cowpoke
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To: Nifster
The problem with Duke is he's a generation of old fashioned Hollywood writing that is campy IMO, whereas Clint is a true 'go 'head, make my day' tough guy, always trying to do right.

They're both equal unto themselves as Americans and patriots, so it comes down to a matter of taste and 'watchability.

I can sit through any Eastwood flick, but I have yet to sit through an entire "She wore a yellow ribbon"

Clint Eastwood

7 posted on 07/04/2014 2:40:03 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: knarf

+1


8 posted on 07/04/2014 2:53:25 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: kingattax
"The hell I won't."
9 posted on 07/04/2014 2:59:05 AM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: kingattax

John Wayne’s a personality.

Clint Eastwood is a FORCE.
When our daughter was eight, she thought she was in love with him and was CRUSHED to learn that, at sixty three, he was too old for her.
She couldn’t understand the concept.


10 posted on 07/04/2014 3:04:02 AM PDT by b9 (II Timothy 1:7)
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To: kingattax

John Wayne was mostly in westerns, and when it wasn’t a western, he was not comfortable in the role.
Clint Eastwood has had a much more diverse acting career, but has has many more R rated movies with more interesting story lines and roles.

Clint Eastwood - better actor and director

J


11 posted on 07/04/2014 3:07:06 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: kingattax

I think it’s an unfair comparison as they are so different and from different generations/different genre westerns, etc.

I rate both #1 and put them in different categories.

Each clearly stands at the top of a different kind of western........

No, not a cop-out. Just the truth.


12 posted on 07/04/2014 3:13:04 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: kingattax

John Wayne.


13 posted on 07/04/2014 3:16:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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To: kingattax

Clint Eastwood but I suspect it has more to do with my age than anything.


14 posted on 07/04/2014 3:32:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: kingattax

Clint wayne...

Why not have them both. Like marriage, what does it matter.


15 posted on 07/04/2014 3:55:24 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: cowpoke

Thanks for the list.


16 posted on 07/04/2014 3:59:41 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: Dixie Yooper

The Quite Man. Hubby has worn out multiple copies.


17 posted on 07/04/2014 4:02:01 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: Dixie Yooper

Dang phone. The Quiet Man.


18 posted on 07/04/2014 4:04:02 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: kingattax

John Eastwood or Clint Wayne, which shall it be?

I’m partial to Clint Eastwood. John was at the top for his time but Clint is a much better actor.


19 posted on 07/04/2014 4:05:34 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: kingattax

Happy 4th to the KINGofttax! Hope you and your family have a wonderful day. Now on to my usual JW screed:

There was a time when I was known on FR as the Duke’s #1 fan! After a thread about the Duke, I would get private messages from people sending me wonderful photos of THE MAN, lol.

That being said, it is unbearable for me to ever read threads on John Wayne because of the intense ignorance shown about acting values, patriotism and the Duke’s personal history.

He was one of the greatest film stars of the golden age of movies. He was a brilliant actor who trained, worked and delivered on every picture. Look at his body of work from “Stagecoach” to “True Grit.” If he didn’t know how to work out of westerns (and most actors can work in more than one genre) what do we make of his performances in “They Were Expendable”? and “Island in the Sky”? If he didn’t know how to act why did the greatest film directors clamor for his time?

Movies are a popular art but they are an ART. And not everyone has a good take on this form. It takes a trained eye and some training in theater, film history and culture to truly comprehend what comprises a good movie and more difficultly, what makes a good screen performance. The combination of sensitivity and concentration, amazing physical dexterity, humor and charisma are what make The Duke a great actor and a great star.

Until conservatives return to the arts instead of run from them, we will always be at a disadvantage in a liberal world.

Happy 4th to you!


20 posted on 07/04/2014 4:07:54 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Happy 4th to you as well :)


21 posted on 07/04/2014 4:15:03 AM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: prisoner6

And those are the fluff ones he used to pay the bills during the roughly twenty years he was the no. 1 box office star in Hollywood. Others, such as Stagecoach, Red River, and The Searchers are not only iconic Westerns they are among the best cinematic art ever made. Sorry, Clint, but only Unforgiven comes close to meeting that standard.


22 posted on 07/04/2014 4:19:31 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: kingattax

John Wayne, without a doubt.

The Duke is a movie genre all by himself. Hollywood actors can be divided into two categories: John Wayne and everybody else.


23 posted on 07/04/2014 4:20:01 AM PDT by Jack023
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To: katana

Yup! My youngest son bought me a really cool but not complete blu ray set of his early years. One of the best gifts I’ve been given.

Stagecoach and The Searchers have been poping up recently on our cable.

Not a Western but another film I enjoyed was The High and The Mighty.


24 posted on 07/04/2014 4:26:41 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Stop the Stupid!)
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To: katana

Hmmm...this thread has me thinking....not good as I need to get to bed.

In any case my favorite western is The Magnificent Seven. I wonder if John Wayne could have played Chris. I can almost imagine him in some of the dialogue.

Don’t get me wrong the casting was great as it was. I was just thinking...


25 posted on 07/04/2014 4:32:24 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Stop the Stupid!)
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To: Roses0508

Not a western! Unless you are referring to western Ireland.


26 posted on 07/04/2014 4:33:41 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: kingattax

My favorite Western movie of all time is “The Outlaw Jose Wales”.

I must have seen “Kelly’s Heroes” more times than I want to admit since I was a little boy when it came out.

Never-the-less, Clint Eastwood played a lot of characters that were like James Bond, sociopathic. John Wayne’s characters were always solidly good guys.

So I vote the Duke!


27 posted on 07/04/2014 4:33:55 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours IRS!)
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To: kingattax
I love the older actors (Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, et al), but I'm sorry - Clint Eastwood is the best Western actor hands-down.
Even if it was only "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly", but there's way more.
28 posted on 07/04/2014 4:39:19 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: kingattax

“MAKE MY DAY”


29 posted on 07/04/2014 4:44:09 AM PDT by kenmcg (b)
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To: Psalm 73

Like someone earlier said, it has to do with age. I am turning 50 this year, so I’ve got to go with Clint, as I have seen more of his work. One of my favorite movies is Gran Torino.


30 posted on 07/04/2014 4:49:08 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: kingattax

Gary Cooper, super duper; Montana born.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSFJdbqYiTc#t=24


31 posted on 07/04/2014 4:57:39 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ("When leftists don’t get their way, they start shooting people and bombing buildings." - rr)
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I’ve never forgiven Clint Eastwood for “The Bridges of Madison County.”


32 posted on 07/04/2014 4:57:45 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: kingattax

Ahhh...a trick question.


33 posted on 07/04/2014 4:57:58 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Cyclone59
"...it has to do with age..."

I was enamored with the cowboy movie-star John Wayne when Clint was just another guy on the weekly series "Rawhide" (I'm 56).
Over the years, though, I've been won over by Clint's slowly building persona - a (slightly) more varied, complex character than The Duke.

34 posted on 07/04/2014 4:58:52 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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"I’ve never forgiven Clint Eastwood for “The Bridges of Madison County.”"

But did you vote for the star of "Bedtime for Bonzo" for president?

35 posted on 07/04/2014 5:00:47 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: miss marmelstein
"Until conservatives return to the arts instead of run from them, we will always be at a disadvantage in a liberal world."

Couldn't agree with you more. American conservatism is a solutions based philosophy; where we identify a problem we turn to free markets, human ingenuity and an appeal to universal morality to seek an answer. This is true in virtually every endeavor except the arts (and by that I include the visual arts, music, literature, cinema, etc.) For some reason, conservatives have, starting in the 20th century, willingly ceded this ground all together (with a few exceptions).

While our unique culture and distinct American civilization may be founded on traditional values, the arts are the means by which values are transmitted and related from one generation to the next. We have allowed the left to dominate this area, much to our own peril.

36 posted on 07/04/2014 5:11:19 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: kingattax

Eastwood Wayne was a cross Dresser


37 posted on 07/04/2014 5:13:16 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom…)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I have banged on about this for years. There are conservatives here who will not allow their children to appear in the high school musical because their kids will become gay. I’m not making this up. But that’s often the first step to introducing children to good music rather than the dreck they generally listen to. The parents, themselves, think that John Wayne movies are “camp” without even understanding what that word means. If I go over to Democratic Underground today, I will be assaulted by ignorant political comments. But if I go to a movie thread, I will read intelligent remarks - far more intelligent than most I read here. I’m shocked and disheartened by that. This has got to change.


38 posted on 07/04/2014 5:24:14 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: kingattax
I'm greedy, so I'll say "both". My favorite westerns are Hondo and The Outlaw Josey Wales. I'd hate to have to choose between them.
39 posted on 07/04/2014 5:32:01 AM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: kingattax

Two different generations, two different acting styles, two different personalities, and BOTH love America.

I love ‘em both.


40 posted on 07/04/2014 5:32:36 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: kingattax

Hmm.. That’s a tough one.

I’d have to say Audie Murphy.


41 posted on 07/04/2014 5:37:28 AM PDT by cizinec ( For the Republic!)
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To: kingattax

John Wayne was at his finest in “The Searchers.”


42 posted on 07/04/2014 5:40:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: cizinec
Check out “The Unforgiven” which probably features Murphy's best performance (outside of “The Red Badge of Courage”) as a cattle rancher with cowardly tendencies. John Huston always cast him as a coward - using the brilliant technique of casting against type.
43 posted on 07/04/2014 5:42:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Indeed. I dual majored in history and art history with a minor in studio art...while on an Army ROTC scholarship. IMHO, when taught properly, those are perhaps the two most comprehensive disciplines in the liberal arts, and while I don't work directly in either field, not a day goes by that I don't employ the research and critical thinking skills I learned and refined in my studies.

Communists of all varieties have shown how effective imagery can be in promoting their lies; just imagine if conservatives decided to make an effort to employ them to promote the truth. I saw Dinesh D'Souza's new film last night...he gets it.

44 posted on 07/04/2014 5:44:30 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: kingattax

I bet you if you asked “Blondie” the same question HE would choose the “Duke”.

But ole “Blondie” is a very close 2nd.

Here is a thought ... imagine if John Wayne was the top cowboy in the Whitehouse today ... how different things would be.


45 posted on 07/04/2014 6:03:01 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: kingattax

Randolph Scott


46 posted on 07/04/2014 6:06:24 AM PDT by twister881
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To: Joe 6-pack

You will find dozens of people here who put down history and art history degrees while admiring only engineering degrees. (I think it’s mostly engineers writing in!) In fact, both of these disciplines are, as you say, wonderful tools for developing critical thinking skills. My only beef is that I had to memorize 4,000 photos of art work for my final exam only to see the 3 I had overlooked as questions. Sigh. We took most of our classes at the Metropolitan Museum of Art walking through the Egyptian wing.

The National Review this month has this problem as its cover article. The main gist of the article was that we need to forget about film and concentrate on the novel...


47 posted on 07/04/2014 6:10:05 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: cripplecreek
"Clint Eastwood but I suspect it has more to do with my age than anything."

Good point. That's why I'm 'writing-in' Randolph Scott.

48 posted on 07/04/2014 6:12:44 AM PDT by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: miss marmelstein
I went to Gettysburg College (at the time, a great place for a history degree; the department has tilted well to the left in the years since). I had access to all the museums in Baltimore, DC and Philadelphia all within a two hour drive.

And yes, I'm well aware of the disdain and scorn heaped upon liberal arts degrees around here. What is missed is that it's not the disciplines in and of themselves, rather the fact that those disciplines have been entirely ceded to the left.

49 posted on 07/04/2014 6:22:03 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

And they’ve been ceded to the Left because the Left knows how very important these fields of study are.


50 posted on 07/04/2014 6:29:32 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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