Skip to comments.John Wayne or Clint Eastwood ?
Posted on 07/04/2014 2:16:48 AM PDT by kingattax
John Wayne and Clint Eastwood are probably the greatest western stars and are the greatest American movie heroes for many people. Vote for your favorite.
Yep. “Life is hard. It’s even harder when you’re stupid.”
There is I doubt...John Wayne
Supposed to sai no doubt... Got to remember to turn off auto fill
Wayne. Clint is good but can’t match Wayne.
McClintock, Katy Elder, North to Alaska, The Alamo are just a few of my favs.
John Wayne...84 westerns...the list is here
The Big Trail
The Range Fued
Ride Him Cowboy
The Big Stampede
The Telegraph Trail
Somewhere In Sonora
Riders of Destiny
The Man From Monterey
West of The Devide
The Trail Beyond
The Star Packer
Randy Rides Alone
The Man From Utah
The Lucky Texan
The Lawless Frontier
Neath The Arizona Skies
The New Frontier
The Desert Trail
The Dawn Rider
Winds Of The Wasteland
The Lonely Trail
The Lawless Nineties
King of The Pecos
California Straight Ahead
Born to The West
Santa Fe Stampede
Red River Range
Pals of The Saddle
Overland Stage Raiders
Three Texas Steers
The Night Riders
The Dark Command
Lady From Louisiana
In Old California
A Lady Takes A Chance
War of The Wildcats (In Old Oklahoma)
Tall In The Saddle
Flame of Barbary Coast
Angel and The Badman
The Fighting Kentuckian
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
The Horse Soldiers
North to Alaska
How The West Was Won
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
The Sons of Katie Elder
The War Wagon
Cahill-United States Marshal
The Train Robbers
They're both equal unto themselves as Americans and patriots, so it comes down to a matter of taste and 'watchability.
I can sit through any Eastwood flick, but I have yet to sit through an entire "She wore a yellow ribbon"
John Wayne’s a personality.
Clint Eastwood is a FORCE.
When our daughter was eight, she thought she was in love with him and was CRUSHED to learn that, at sixty three, he was too old for her.
She couldn’t understand the concept.
John Wayne was mostly in westerns, and when it wasn’t a western, he was not comfortable in the role.
Clint Eastwood has had a much more diverse acting career, but has has many more R rated movies with more interesting story lines and roles.
Clint Eastwood - better actor and director
I think it’s an unfair comparison as they are so different and from different generations/different genre westerns, etc.
I rate both #1 and put them in different categories.
Each clearly stands at the top of a different kind of western........
No, not a cop-out. Just the truth.
Clint Eastwood but I suspect it has more to do with my age than anything.
Why not have them both. Like marriage, what does it matter.
Thanks for the list.
The Quite Man. Hubby has worn out multiple copies.
Dang phone. The Quiet Man.
John Eastwood or Clint Wayne, which shall it be?
I’m partial to Clint Eastwood. John was at the top for his time but Clint is a much better actor.
Happy 4th to the KINGofttax! Hope you and your family have a wonderful day. Now on to my usual JW screed:
There was a time when I was known on FR as the Duke’s #1 fan! After a thread about the Duke, I would get private messages from people sending me wonderful photos of THE MAN, lol.
That being said, it is unbearable for me to ever read threads on John Wayne because of the intense ignorance shown about acting values, patriotism and the Duke’s personal history.
He was one of the greatest film stars of the golden age of movies. He was a brilliant actor who trained, worked and delivered on every picture. Look at his body of work from “Stagecoach” to “True Grit.” If he didn’t know how to work out of westerns (and most actors can work in more than one genre) what do we make of his performances in “They Were Expendable”? and “Island in the Sky”? If he didn’t know how to act why did the greatest film directors clamor for his time?
Movies are a popular art but they are an ART. And not everyone has a good take on this form. It takes a trained eye and some training in theater, film history and culture to truly comprehend what comprises a good movie and more difficultly, what makes a good screen performance. The combination of sensitivity and concentration, amazing physical dexterity, humor and charisma are what make The Duke a great actor and a great star.
Until conservatives return to the arts instead of run from them, we will always be at a disadvantage in a liberal world.
Happy 4th to you!
Happy 4th to you as well :)
And those are the fluff ones he used to pay the bills during the roughly twenty years he was the no. 1 box office star in Hollywood. Others, such as Stagecoach, Red River, and The Searchers are not only iconic Westerns they are among the best cinematic art ever made. Sorry, Clint, but only Unforgiven comes close to meeting that standard.
John Wayne, without a doubt.
The Duke is a movie genre all by himself. Hollywood actors can be divided into two categories: John Wayne and everybody else.
Yup! My youngest son bought me a really cool but not complete blu ray set of his early years. One of the best gifts I’ve been given.
Stagecoach and The Searchers have been poping up recently on our cable.
Not a Western but another film I enjoyed was The High and The Mighty.
Hmmm...this thread has me thinking....not good as I need to get to bed.
In any case my favorite western is The Magnificent Seven. I wonder if John Wayne could have played Chris. I can almost imagine him in some of the dialogue.
Don’t get me wrong the casting was great as it was. I was just thinking...
Not a western! Unless you are referring to western Ireland.
My favorite Western movie of all time is “The Outlaw Jose Wales”.
I must have seen “Kelly’s Heroes” more times than I want to admit since I was a little boy when it came out.
Never-the-less, Clint Eastwood played a lot of characters that were like James Bond, sociopathic. John Wayne’s characters were always solidly good guys.
So I vote the Duke!
“MAKE MY DAY”
Like someone earlier said, it has to do with age. I am turning 50 this year, so I’ve got to go with Clint, as I have seen more of his work. One of my favorite movies is Gran Torino.
Gary Cooper, super duper; Montana born.
I’ve never forgiven Clint Eastwood for “The Bridges of Madison County.”
Ahhh...a trick question.
I was enamored with the cowboy movie-star John Wayne when Clint was just another guy on the weekly series "Rawhide" (I'm 56).
Over the years, though, I've been won over by Clint's slowly building persona - a (slightly) more varied, complex character than The Duke.
But did you vote for the star of "Bedtime for Bonzo" for president?
Couldn't agree with you more. American conservatism is a solutions based philosophy; where we identify a problem we turn to free markets, human ingenuity and an appeal to universal morality to seek an answer. This is true in virtually every endeavor except the arts (and by that I include the visual arts, music, literature, cinema, etc.) For some reason, conservatives have, starting in the 20th century, willingly ceded this ground all together (with a few exceptions).
While our unique culture and distinct American civilization may be founded on traditional values, the arts are the means by which values are transmitted and related from one generation to the next. We have allowed the left to dominate this area, much to our own peril.
Eastwood Wayne was a cross Dresser
I have banged on about this for years. There are conservatives here who will not allow their children to appear in the high school musical because their kids will become gay. I’m not making this up. But that’s often the first step to introducing children to good music rather than the dreck they generally listen to. The parents, themselves, think that John Wayne movies are “camp” without even understanding what that word means. If I go over to Democratic Underground today, I will be assaulted by ignorant political comments. But if I go to a movie thread, I will read intelligent remarks - far more intelligent than most I read here. I’m shocked and disheartened by that. This has got to change.
Two different generations, two different acting styles, two different personalities, and BOTH love America.
I love ‘em both.
Hmm.. That’s a tough one.
I’d have to say Audie Murphy.
John Wayne was at his finest in “The Searchers.”
Communists of all varieties have shown how effective imagery can be in promoting their lies; just imagine if conservatives decided to make an effort to employ them to promote the truth. I saw Dinesh D'Souza's new film last night...he gets it.
I bet you if you asked “Blondie” the same question HE would choose the “Duke”.
But ole “Blondie” is a very close 2nd.
Here is a thought ... imagine if John Wayne was the top cowboy in the Whitehouse today ... how different things would be.
You will find dozens of people here who put down history and art history degrees while admiring only engineering degrees. (I think it’s mostly engineers writing in!) In fact, both of these disciplines are, as you say, wonderful tools for developing critical thinking skills. My only beef is that I had to memorize 4,000 photos of art work for my final exam only to see the 3 I had overlooked as questions. Sigh. We took most of our classes at the Metropolitan Museum of Art walking through the Egyptian wing.
The National Review this month has this problem as its cover article. The main gist of the article was that we need to forget about film and concentrate on the novel...
Good point. That's why I'm 'writing-in' Randolph Scott.
And yes, I'm well aware of the disdain and scorn heaped upon liberal arts degrees around here. What is missed is that it's not the disciplines in and of themselves, rather the fact that those disciplines have been entirely ceded to the left.
And they’ve been ceded to the Left because the Left knows how very important these fields of study are.
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