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While Penn State recovers, NCAA could help by lifting bowl ban
cbs sports ^ | 7-29-14 | Dennis Dodd

Posted on 07/29/2014 2:14:16 PM PDT by FlJoePa

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Mike Hull (Sr. Canonsburg): "I think we've done everything right, I don't think we did anything wrong in the first place."

Damn straight Mike.


1 posted on 07/29/2014 2:14:16 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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I said from the beginning that the only reason everybody piled on Joe Paterno and Penn State football was to take the heat off former PSU President Graham Spanier, who was the architect of the gay friendly atmosphere at PSU which led to the abuse.

The NCAA is a willing co-architect in that atmosphere and seeks to do the same thing by mindlessly piling on rather than addressing the root of the problem.

2 posted on 07/29/2014 2:31:15 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Penn State got rid of the closet homosexual Spanier only to go and hire a lesbian Athletic Director. They never learn.


3 posted on 07/29/2014 2:35:03 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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Spanier was probably bi rather than homo, but I get your point. They've learned nothing.

The next Jerry Sandusky may very will be a dyke abusing little girls.

Meanwhile, the NCAA plays along with this Kabuki show by punishing PSU football.

4 posted on 07/29/2014 2:39:09 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Vig - Ziegler explains this best. People didn’t react to a 5 alarm fire because they weren’t TOLD about a 5 alarm fire.

I dislike Spanier as much as any conservative alumnus, but you’re barking up the wrong tree here (imo). Over thinking, when Occam’s Razor really answers a lot of the questions.

Ziegler claims to have spoken to Spanier for dozens of hours on the phone in the past 2 years. JZ considers him the most slam dunk/innocent guy in the whole mess - above Joe even.


5 posted on 07/29/2014 2:44:38 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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It was two years ago this month that the NCAA overreached into a sordid criminal matter, forever changing history.

I don't agree that it was overreach at all - Sandusky had access to a Nittany Lions office and team facilities long after he stopped working for Penn State, and the program covered up for him after an assistant coach apparently heard Sandusky raping a small boy in the team showers. That's a football program which has lost all perspective on what really matters - their conduct deserved far more severe sanctions than the slap on the wrist they ended up with.
6 posted on 07/29/2014 2:46:54 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Other than there being 1) no coverup and 2) no rape in the shower, you make a very compelling argument.


7 posted on 07/29/2014 2:54:56 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I don’t think it was overreach either.


8 posted on 07/29/2014 3:40:24 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: FlJoePa

First I’ve heard that Sandusky was cleared of the sex (Source?) with a minor in the shower. Or are you telling us the minor was asking for it?


9 posted on 07/29/2014 4:44:26 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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Well, first of all Victim 2 (the McQueary shower victim) didn’t testify. The prosecution didn’t want to call him.

It’s common knowledge who he is - a former Marine now living the good life courtesy of PSU and the ATM machine they set up.

In the trial, w/ no victim #2 (and no evidence other than McQueary’s testimony), js was somehow still convicted on a bunch of fondling type charges (w/ regard to V2), but acquitted of the rape charge.

You know - the rape charge that espn used to turn rational people into people like you?


10 posted on 07/29/2014 4:56:32 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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It seems that the showers were involved with multiple victims, Source: http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/22/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky-trial/ and even his adopted son was prepared to testify against him. But you imply that because the shower victim in the most highly publicized episode didn’t testify that none of the shower abuse happened.

It’s not my website, but if it were, someone who is as dismissive of child rape as you comport yourself to be would be banned and all traces of you erased from any server I had access to. Not my call, but you are disgusting beyond words.


11 posted on 07/29/2014 5:29:36 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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You seriously linked a poorly written CNN blanket article about the convictions, and asked Jim Rob to kick me off this site?

Your level of ignorance about this case can not possibly be measured or fixed. Just go about your happy way.


12 posted on 07/29/2014 5:38:08 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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13 posted on 07/29/2014 5:49:33 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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Every single item in your little cartoon is factually incorrect, but carry on, media sycophant.

This thread was about the ncaa dropping sanctions against PSU. If you have something to say about the topic at hand, then chime in.


14 posted on 07/29/2014 6:00:01 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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15 posted on 07/29/2014 6:03:26 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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I’m done with you. Joe was never accused of, or charged with a crime. What you are participating in is character assassination. Seems to fit you well. Piss off.


16 posted on 07/29/2014 6:10:21 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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17 posted on 07/29/2014 6:12:03 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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Scoreboard:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/sandusky-son-takes-part-penn-st-sex-abuse-documentary-article-1.1586788

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/10/superior_court_finds_no_errors.html

http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/state-supreme-court-turns-down-jerry-sandusky-appeal,1458597/

I guess the ignorance of the superior court and the state supreme court cannot be measured or fixed, either. When your viewpoint conflicts with reality, it’s pretty unlikely that Reality is wearing the dunce cap. But then again, your handle indicates no possibility of bias, so I guess you must have read all the evidence and interviewed all the witnesses and come to such a contrary conclusion using your super intellect in a way that law enforcement and the courts never could.

I hear OJ still needs help looking for the real killer. Give him a call, genius.


18 posted on 07/29/2014 6:12:46 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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The next Jerry Sandusky may very will be a dyke abusing little girls.

If anything you will find that in any government school where clamlickers are left in charge of kids that they take their hatred of men out on the little boys.

19 posted on 07/29/2014 9:07:54 PM PDT by Rodamala
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The natural disposition is always to believe. It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing. - Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments

20 posted on 07/30/2014 2:19:48 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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