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While Penn State recovers, NCAA could help by lifting bowl ban
cbs sports ^ | 7-29-14 | Dennis Dodd

Posted on 07/29/2014 2:14:16 PM PDT by FlJoePa

CHICAGO -- There's a statement to be made, a huge one at Penn State.

A nation's outrage may not have diminished over the Jerry Sandusky scandal but the story is certainly off the front page. It was two years ago this month that the NCAA overreached into a sordid criminal matter, forever changing history.

So much upheaval, so much collateral damage. The group of innocents from that day two years ago are still being punished. They don't talk about it much anymore, but they live it each day.

"I think we've done everything right," Penn State linebacker Mike Hull said. "I don't think we did anything wrong in the first place."

But those Nittany Lions players are still suffering the same penalties that were handed down in 2012. Among them, a four-year bowl ban that affected young adults who had nothing to do with the scandal. That alone may have turned up the current heat on the NCAA and president Mark Emmert.

It's one thing to take four years to penalize Southern California or to take Jim Tressel out at the knees. It's another to tell those innocent Penn State players in a tangential way that they're going to be paying for the criminal sins of a predator.

"It was basically the worst thing you can do to the program," Hull said Tuesday at Big Ten media days, "aside from the death penalty."

They came to Penn State to play football. They will leave better men. Contrary to some predictions, Penn State football did not burn to the ground. Far from it. Bill O'Brien kept the program afloat, winning eight and seven games despite having no postseason to sell to his players or recruits.

That's 15 wins, the same amount as a fully loaded Michigan had in the same two seasons.

The NCAA healed some wounds by giving Penn State back some scholarships last year. This year would have been the beginning of a four-year span during which Penn State would be reduced to 65 scholarships per year. That's basically down to the FCS (Division I-AA) level.

That won't be the case. It looks like NCAA's attempted arson of the program will be doused. There's a future for Penn State football, something that couldn't be assured two years ago. In that sense, the ongoing lesson is that the NCAA never should have punished the innocents in the locker rom.

It's time, then, for that statement.

Penn State integrity monitor George Mitchell is close to issuing another update on the school's compliance progress. The NCAA assigned a lengthy list of targets for the school to adhere to in the wake of Sandusky (Athletics Integrity Agreement).

Last year's Mitchell report (see above) was encouraging, as was a December update. A similar favorable report must lead the NCAA to rescind the remaining two years of the bowl ban.

"It would obviously be big," coach James Franklin said. "We don't even talk about it but I do think it would be a shot of enthusiasm and excitement."

There are no bad outcomes to rescinding the ban. We all know the NCAA could use a huge PR bump. Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said in criticizing the NCAA eight days ago that "cheating pays." Emmert fired back with a Monday letter stating criticisms of enforcement are "inaccurate."

Why even go there when positive perception of the association may be at an all-time low? Ending this Penn State affair is not only common sense, it's good business sense for the NCAA. A group of five congressmen wrote Emmert recently asking that all the Penn State penalties be dropped.

"Continuing these unprecedented sanctions harms innocent student athletes and further erodes the increasingly specious credibility of the organization," the letter said.

Thankfully, Franklin's bombastic arrival has put the happy back in Happy Valley. It has overshadowed the dark times. No matter what the situation, there will be no excuses for one of the most vibrant coaches in the country.

"It's very black and white, we live by that," Franklin said of the penalties. "If someone tells us something different down the road -- [it's] gravy, icing on the cake, bonus."

Penn State is in the process of proving what was evident all along. It is one of the five or 10 schools in the country that could survive such sanctions. It happened at USC. It's happening in State College. Penn State was picked fourth in the Big Ten East by the media. The Nittany Lions finished second and third in their division in the first two years post-Sandusky. That's not football Armageddon.

What's amazing now is the players are all out there for the thrill of it. That's the way it's supposed to be, right? Franklin can't sell his players or recruits on a postseason rainbow.

Out of an ugly past has come some purity.

"You play for more than just going to a bowl," Hull said. "You prove yourself every single Saturday out there. You play because you love the game."

Every day that goes by, all of them at Penn State are able to talk more football. O'Brien told reporters last spring he had 67 scholarship players. Then he went out and beat Michigan and Wisconsin while winning those seven games.

Franklin goes into this season with 72 scholarship players, 13 less than the maximum. There will be no excuses from a football program on the mend. Let's hope there is common sense from the organization overseeing it.


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Mike Hull (Sr. Canonsburg): "I think we've done everything right, I don't think we did anything wrong in the first place."

Damn straight Mike.


1 posted on 07/29/2014 2:14:16 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa
I said from the beginning that the only reason everybody piled on Joe Paterno and Penn State football was to take the heat off former PSU President Graham Spanier, who was the architect of the gay friendly atmosphere at PSU which led to the abuse.

The NCAA is a willing co-architect in that atmosphere and seeks to do the same thing by mindlessly piling on rather than addressing the root of the problem.

2 posted on 07/29/2014 2:31:15 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Penn State got rid of the closet homosexual Spanier only to go and hire a lesbian Athletic Director. They never learn.


3 posted on 07/29/2014 2:35:03 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Flavious_Maximus
Spanier was probably bi rather than homo, but I get your point. They've learned nothing.

The next Jerry Sandusky may very will be a dyke abusing little girls.

Meanwhile, the NCAA plays along with this Kabuki show by punishing PSU football.

4 posted on 07/29/2014 2:39:09 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Vig - Ziegler explains this best. People didn’t react to a 5 alarm fire because they weren’t TOLD about a 5 alarm fire.

I dislike Spanier as much as any conservative alumnus, but you’re barking up the wrong tree here (imo). Over thinking, when Occam’s Razor really answers a lot of the questions.

Ziegler claims to have spoken to Spanier for dozens of hours on the phone in the past 2 years. JZ considers him the most slam dunk/innocent guy in the whole mess - above Joe even.


5 posted on 07/29/2014 2:44:38 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa
It was two years ago this month that the NCAA overreached into a sordid criminal matter, forever changing history.

I don't agree that it was overreach at all - Sandusky had access to a Nittany Lions office and team facilities long after he stopped working for Penn State, and the program covered up for him after an assistant coach apparently heard Sandusky raping a small boy in the team showers. That's a football program which has lost all perspective on what really matters - their conduct deserved far more severe sanctions than the slap on the wrist they ended up with.
6 posted on 07/29/2014 2:46:54 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Other than there being 1) no coverup and 2) no rape in the shower, you make a very compelling argument.


7 posted on 07/29/2014 2:54:56 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I don’t think it was overreach either.


8 posted on 07/29/2014 3:40:24 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: FlJoePa

First I’ve heard that Sandusky was cleared of the sex (Source?) with a minor in the shower. Or are you telling us the minor was asking for it?


9 posted on 07/29/2014 4:44:26 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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Well, first of all Victim 2 (the McQueary shower victim) didn’t testify. The prosecution didn’t want to call him.

It’s common knowledge who he is - a former Marine now living the good life courtesy of PSU and the ATM machine they set up.

In the trial, w/ no victim #2 (and no evidence other than McQueary’s testimony), js was somehow still convicted on a bunch of fondling type charges (w/ regard to V2), but acquitted of the rape charge.

You know - the rape charge that espn used to turn rational people into people like you?


10 posted on 07/29/2014 4:56:32 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa; Jim Robinson

It seems that the showers were involved with multiple victims, Source: http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/22/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky-trial/ and even his adopted son was prepared to testify against him. But you imply that because the shower victim in the most highly publicized episode didn’t testify that none of the shower abuse happened.

It’s not my website, but if it were, someone who is as dismissive of child rape as you comport yourself to be would be banned and all traces of you erased from any server I had access to. Not my call, but you are disgusting beyond words.


11 posted on 07/29/2014 5:29:36 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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To: Go_Raiders

You seriously linked a poorly written CNN blanket article about the convictions, and asked Jim Rob to kick me off this site?

Your level of ignorance about this case can not possibly be measured or fixed. Just go about your happy way.


12 posted on 07/29/2014 5:38:08 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

13 posted on 07/29/2014 5:49:33 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

Every single item in your little cartoon is factually incorrect, but carry on, media sycophant.

This thread was about the ncaa dropping sanctions against PSU. If you have something to say about the topic at hand, then chime in.


14 posted on 07/29/2014 6:00:01 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

15 posted on 07/29/2014 6:03:26 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

I’m done with you. Joe was never accused of, or charged with a crime. What you are participating in is character assassination. Seems to fit you well. Piss off.


16 posted on 07/29/2014 6:10:21 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

17 posted on 07/29/2014 6:12:03 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: FlJoePa

Scoreboard:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/sandusky-son-takes-part-penn-st-sex-abuse-documentary-article-1.1586788

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/10/superior_court_finds_no_errors.html

http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/state-supreme-court-turns-down-jerry-sandusky-appeal,1458597/

I guess the ignorance of the superior court and the state supreme court cannot be measured or fixed, either. When your viewpoint conflicts with reality, it’s pretty unlikely that Reality is wearing the dunce cap. But then again, your handle indicates no possibility of bias, so I guess you must have read all the evidence and interviewed all the witnesses and come to such a contrary conclusion using your super intellect in a way that law enforcement and the courts never could.

I hear OJ still needs help looking for the real killer. Give him a call, genius.


18 posted on 07/29/2014 6:12:46 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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To: Vigilanteman
The next Jerry Sandusky may very will be a dyke abusing little girls.

If anything you will find that in any government school where clamlickers are left in charge of kids that they take their hatred of men out on the little boys.

19 posted on 07/29/2014 9:07:54 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: COBOL2Java
The natural disposition is always to believe. It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing. - Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments

20 posted on 07/30/2014 2:19:48 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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