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Why is science fiction so hard to define?
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| July 30, 2014
| Quentin Cooper
Posted on 08/02/2014 8:55:22 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
I finally watched Blade Runner after hearing it praised for decades. It really did nothing for me. I didn’t understand what was going on and found it quite leaden. But, maybe I too should give it another try.
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posted on
08/02/2014 9:59:41 AM PDT
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jocon307
To: T. P. Pole
For me, if it is internally logical, I can suspend disbelief for the duration of the story. I think most readers may even skim the technical parts of some novels and simply accept the premises.
To: reformedliberal
Think of the androids as humans, the police as angels, and Eldon Tyrell as God. Then watch it again.
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posted on
08/02/2014 10:51:19 AM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
To: EveningStar
I don’t like having to click through 20-100 pages to get the “names” (and some of the media sites love linking to umpteen dozen youtube clips, each of which then attempt to load).
Bloated page load and overhyped page clicks.
I can search for more info on films if I feel the need.
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posted on
08/02/2014 12:24:19 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
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To: EveningStar
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08/02/2014 12:28:41 PM PDT
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08/02/2014 1:58:07 PM PDT
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posted on
08/02/2014 1:58:33 PM PDT
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trisham
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Gadzooks! It takes forever to get to the list...
and then their choices are terrible.
Such as 1954's Them! not on the list while 1951's The Thing from Another World at 67 and The Day the Earth Stood Still at 31. These three should be in the top five, not for their special effects but for their plots and believability that survived across the 60 plus years since they were produced.
Today's sci-fi films are 99.9% special effects, .01% plot and no believability as the target audience are 10 to 14 year old boys & girls (and many of today's grown men & women with the same maturity level) who will come back to see the film over and over and over.
Some days I almost wish... Helen had never said "Klaatu barada nikto" to Gort--
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08/02/2014 3:03:13 PM PDT
by
Bender2
("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
To: EveningStar
See the final director’s cut on blu-ray.... far superior to prior versions even though the changes are small and subtle.
Bladerunner is a visual masterpiece, considering it’s one of the last of the “analog” sci-fi films, in that it had no CGI, all props and camera effects.
It has a few awkward spots, but all in all is amazing.
To: HangnJudge
I like Primer. Filmed by a conservative for 7K
Won Sundance.
Worth the watch, again and again.
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posted on
08/02/2014 3:28:13 PM PDT
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Chickensoup
(Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
To: T. P. Pole
bump
I always thought a good sci-fi story could come from everyone living in tall towers, shopping, restaurants, movie theaters, schools are all in the towers, all towers connected by bridges, some nice and some ghetto. Going outside being a very rare thing, might even be illegal depending on the story.
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08/02/2014 3:42:19 PM PDT
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GeronL
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To: reformedliberal
There were probably a lot of readers skipping the 7-page instruction on the inner-workings of how a tank fires a tank shell in a Tom Clancey novel too.
I made that up but some of his books had stuff like that in them.
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posted on
08/02/2014 3:43:56 PM PDT
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GeronL
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To: Chickensoup
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posted on
08/02/2014 3:46:54 PM PDT
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GeronL
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To: GeronL
Going outside being a very rare thing, might even be illegal depending on the story.
Asimov's The Caves Of Steel and The Naked Sun covered some of that territory. Humanity lived in crowded megacities, always crowded and always indoors. No one ever saw the sun. The protagonist shook in fear, as in a phobia, when he had to step outdoors.
They were written as detective stories, but explored the consequencies of living in such crowded circumstances. The planet Solaria (one of the 50 human colonized planets) in the second book explored the consequences of people living in extremely isolated circumstances.
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08/02/2014 3:56:51 PM PDT
by
EvilOverlord
(Socialism makes workers into slaves and couch potatoes into kings)
To: EvilOverlord
interesting
More books to look up and put on the long long list
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08/02/2014 3:57:46 PM PDT
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GeronL
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To: GeronL
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posted on
08/02/2014 3:58:58 PM PDT
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Chickensoup
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To: GeronL
Have you read the Foundation Trilogy and his fourth add on? the fifth isn’t worth it.
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posted on
08/02/2014 4:00:47 PM PDT
by
Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup; GeronL
Well, the fifth one, Foundation and Earth is essentially a sequal to The Naked Sun, as it shows the evolution of Solaria's society 30,000 years after The Naked Sun takes place. It takes Solaria's isolation to an extreme.
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08/02/2014 4:07:08 PM PDT
by
EvilOverlord
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To: EveningStar
Who can take seriously a list of the “best” 100 sci-fi films that includes dreck like Pacific Rim, Avatar, The Truman Show, The Prestige?
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posted on
08/02/2014 4:48:38 PM PDT
by
TrueKnightGalahad
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To: Chickensoup
I did read the Trilogy at some point. I dunno about that fifth thing.
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08/02/2014 5:56:10 PM PDT
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GeronL
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