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Why is science fiction so hard to define?
BBC ^ | July 30, 2014 | Quentin Cooper

Posted on 08/02/2014 8:55:22 AM PDT by EveningStar

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To: GeronL

Yeah. Guilty. Pages in any novel that read like a Cabela’s catalog, complete with SKUs, are also skippable.

There are also a LOT of SHTF-type novels written by proud former military logistics officers and they include the spread sheets to prove it. These are the sorts of stories that presuppose that the survivors have millions of dollars to spend, are all Marines/Seals and had the foresight to begin their redoubts in 1980.

The scary side of all the above is even with every fictional advantage and toy, the potential survival rate is 50/50. And that’s if they avoid war with a still-functioning government.

So, bottom line, especially if you don’t have all this knowledge, equipment and training (and likely even if you do): embrace the suck.

You have to just read this stuff for entertainment, anyway. They aren’t tutorials.


41 posted on 08/02/2014 7:10:32 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

very true


42 posted on 08/02/2014 7:13:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: EveningStar; Perdogg; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued; Bender2; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; sickoflibs; ...

Neil deGrasse Tyson?! I’m not surprised he likes the boring “Contact”.

I tried to watch that “Cosmos” show but he is soooooooooooooooo boring.


43 posted on 08/02/2014 8:36:42 PM PDT by Impy (Think for yourself)
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To: EveningStar

SciFi is many different sub genres. As far as the printed word, there were the pulp guys who started and continued writing in such organs as Fantasy And Science Fiction, Amazing Stories, and the like. Azimov, Heinlein and Bradbury got there start there. Guys like Kurt Vonnigut did not. His type of writing was not recognized by the pulp guys and was called by some Ghetto SciFi. Of course that was back in the 70s when I was still reading the pulps. I don’t know nor necessarily care what the dominant paradigm is in SciFi.


44 posted on 08/03/2014 3:40:03 AM PDT by Vaquero (HDon't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Which of the umpteen version of Blade Runner do you speak??
They present different realities.


45 posted on 08/03/2014 3:43:04 AM PDT by Vaquero (HDon't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: jocon307
I finally watched Blade Runner after hearing it praised for decades. It really did nothing for me. I didn’t understand what was going on and found it quite leaden. But, maybe I too should give it another try.

DONT watch the directors cut unless you've read the book. Watch the theatrical cut. It is narrated by Ford and explains what's going on.

46 posted on 08/03/2014 3:47:36 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Unless you have read the book DONT watch the directors cut without the narration. Unless you’re a mind reader you will have no idea.


47 posted on 08/03/2014 3:49:53 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: GeronL

Foundation should have stayed a trilogy. Period


48 posted on 08/03/2014 3:50:58 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

All versions have the clues to the secret, but the Director’s cut has them laid out best.


49 posted on 08/03/2014 8:21:50 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Impy; NFHale; Bender2; BillyBoy

“Contact” was ridiculous. More like a comedy. The superrich crazy guy who can single-handedly build a launch pad/ship (and hide it, too !). The right-wing Christian terrorist (played by Gary Busey’s lookalike son, no less), because we all know how often they blow-up stuff, right ? Worst of all, we don’t get to see space aliens and civilizations, we just get to see Jodie’s dead father, the doctor dude from “St. Elsewhere.” And, of course, Matthew McConnaughey as the charming/romantic hippie-dippie rev.

If I had paid money to see this in a theater, I’d have wanted to make “contact” with the producers via a well-placed right hook.

I saw “Cosmos” over 3 decades ago as a kid, I had no intention of watching what was a pretty open leftist circle-jerk of a remake.


50 posted on 08/03/2014 8:29:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I generally don’t like directors cuts....Riddley Scott is no exception. A good editor makes a movie as someone should have impressed upon Scott with the horrible Prometheus.


51 posted on 08/03/2014 9:05:11 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
If I had paid money to see this in a theater, I’d have wanted to make “contact” with the producers via a well-placed right hook.

:D

I don't recall if mom took us to see it in the theater or not. All I know is I never watched it a second time. Pointless garbage, I don't get how anyone could like it.

I wouldn't have minded the leftist propaganda on "Cosmos" that much if it had at least been REMOTELY interesting, I was watching it and found my self examining spots on the wall, "hmm is that moth I killed yesterday", and then I fell asleep. Whoever decided to put Tyson on tv should face a firing squad.

52 posted on 08/03/2014 10:56:01 PM PDT by Impy (Think for yourself)
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