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The year 2034, your predictions?

Posted on 08/02/2014 10:28:03 PM PDT by MNDude

It seems that with recent trends in economics, demographics, and morality in this country, there's great reason for much pessimism for the future. In any case, I'm curious to hear your predictions for 20 years from now. The state of USA? The world stage? Technology? Anything else you think it will be like in that year.


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1 posted on 08/02/2014 10:28:03 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

I’ll be dead by then ?


2 posted on 08/02/2014 10:30:06 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: MNDude

we are two nations, divided more or less on the old confederate borders.


3 posted on 08/02/2014 10:30:34 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: MNDude

If still moving, y’all will be able to hear the creaking miles away. The snarling, too..............


4 posted on 08/02/2014 10:31:13 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: MNDude

The USA will no longer exist. It will have disintegrated due to repeated administrations of insane leftists who will debt us into oblivion. Then patriot reactionaries will seize a small section of the country in the ensuing chaos, and the rest descends into minor anarchy.

The world will plunge into a second Dark Age, but it will actually be a golden age of sanity.


5 posted on 08/02/2014 10:31:33 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Same here, I’m counting on being with The Lord and friends an family


6 posted on 08/02/2014 10:31:40 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: MNDude

At one time I’d jokingly speculate that within five years I’d either be dead, or in hiding. Beginning to wonder about that now.


7 posted on 08/02/2014 10:32:52 PM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: MNDude; GeronL; Slings and Arrows

In the year 2525, if man is still alive....


8 posted on 08/02/2014 10:36:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: Viennacon

The world has forgotten what can happen when we put idealists in charge. Maybe once the morons fertilize the fields we can live in a sane world again.


9 posted on 08/02/2014 10:37:28 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

We can only hope. I’m just glad we live in a nation where the citizenry is armed.


10 posted on 08/02/2014 10:39:21 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: MNDude

If i’m still alive i’ll be 97 and won’t give a damn!


11 posted on 08/02/2014 10:40:05 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: a fool in paradise

President Hector Macho Commacho of the Unidos La Raza Partido announces plans to take land away from white “gringos” and “restore” it to Mexicanos. This Land Reform Program receives some support from the second-largest party in Congress, the Democrat Party while the smaller Republican Party opposes the measure and calls it “racist”.

Meanwhile food shortages across the country causes harsher measures to be adopted to thwart hoarders.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 10:40:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: MNDude

CWII will continue to smolder.


13 posted on 08/02/2014 10:41:33 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: MNDude
I'll not only be merely dead, I will really be most sincerely dead.

Kudos to Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead.

14 posted on 08/02/2014 10:42:01 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: reefdiver

America will be a prosperious nation-—with order and stability. Factories going strong and many wealthy people but, the state will be an all powerful fascist nation and the center of a North American Empire that will include every nation in North America—Canada, Mexico, Cuba, etc... We will have added territoey in South America as well as Africa. We will have a charismatic leader who will be the center of the state—Monuments, new flags, patriotism. the Capital will be in St. Louis. the draft will be in effect—Media controlled and all will be for the state. Everyone must be part of a pro-state group.


15 posted on 08/02/2014 10:42:05 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: MNDude

The Jetsons?


16 posted on 08/02/2014 10:43:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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17 posted on 08/02/2014 10:45:45 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: MNDude

Prostitution and so called “soft” drugs will be legal in most states while Churches will lose tax exempt status.


18 posted on 08/02/2014 10:47:12 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: reefdiver

i’m couting on the Lord already returning by then. or being with him, one way or another.


19 posted on 08/02/2014 10:48:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

naive, irresponsible, communist idealists.


20 posted on 08/02/2014 10:49:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: MNDude

I was talking to a friend this evening about what might happen in the future. Neither of us saw a good outcome.


21 posted on 08/02/2014 10:50:12 PM PDT by berdie
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To: MNDude

Mexico “controls” the South and Southwest. A jungle.

China controls the Northwest and Midwest. A living hell.

Muslims control the East, out to Chicago. Another living hell. They are always at war with the Mexicans and the Chinese.

Ninety percent of the 2008 population of the former U.S. is dead, killed by EMPs set off by Obama right before he fled to Europe, and by TB, scabies, polio, Ebola, etc., known collectively as O’Malley-Gomez disease, after the late Cardinal Sean O’Malley and Archbishop José Gomez, both of whom succumbed to Ebola and tuberculosis five weeks after celebrating a “Mass in Thanksgiving for Immigration Freedom” on the former Texas-Mexico border while campaigning for the re-election of Obama in 2016.


22 posted on 08/02/2014 10:57:21 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: MNDude
Ice breakers have cleared a path across the Southern Atlantic ice pack to bring emergency supplies to a frozen Europe.

NASA reports that no Sunspots are observed this month...and that the ice age is expected to continue to the end of the century.

23 posted on 08/02/2014 11:11:44 PM PDT by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: MNDude

The United States still exists, but in a slightly altered form.

We are a prosperous nation again, but we are that way after several years of chaos. The unprecedented Republican landslide in the General Elections of 2014 was encouraging. However, the next day, the detonation of a nuclear device in downtown Seattle (smuggled in aboard a container ship) resulted in the declaration of martial law by Barack Obama. In doing so, he declared that the previous days results were put ‘on hold’ until the crisis was over. It was at that point that several nationally-known conservatives threw caution to the wind, took to the air, and began openly calling for the ouster of Obama from the presidency. Many of them were arrested, including the now-famous recording of federal agents assaulting the studio of Rush Limbaugh and shooting him dead live on the air.

For many, that was the last straw and acted as the ‘go signal’ to begin the Second American Revolution/Civil War II.

The war lasted for 2 years and was bloody. it reduced the population from 300 million down to just about 125 million. The greatest reduction came in the inner cities, with many rival ethnic groups fighting each other for supremacy and the police and National Guard simply ‘staying out of it’. The survivors went outward from there, but found that Americans in the suburbs and rural areas weren’t going to stand for that nonsense. The loss of life among the raiders from the cities was astounding.

The war ended when a group of young military officers who still had a passion for what the US was supposed to represent, staged a coup d’etat and arrested President Obama in early 2017. When the takeover was announced, many in the administration attempted to flee the country, but were apprehended by ‘patriot’ forces. Some decided, like VP Biden, to commit suicide rather than be taken. Several were tried and convicted of high treason and summarily executed. It didn’t matter what party you were in...if there was a record of you voting for or supporting actions that was harmful to the United States and it’s people, you were guilty.

In the most famous of the executions, Barack Obama stood on the gallows. As a hood and the noose was placed over his head, he clearly shouted “Allahu Ackbar!” at least twice and was still yelling it when the trapdoor fell away and he was hanged.

It took another 2 years for some semblance of order to come to the whole country. The biggest hiccup was the rising of the Hispanic/Mexican element in Southern California in the summer of 2017. Latinos simply outnumbered both the the white and black population of the SoCal area, and their sudden uprising and demands of secession as a separate country took everyone by surprise. Since a bloody civil war had just ended, the country was in no mood for another one, so the state of California was halved and the southern section became ‘Aztlan’ in June of 2018.

The new US government adhered to a strict Constitutional policy. If it wasn’t in the Constitution, it wasn’t necessary. There were some concessions made due to the advancement of technology (nuclear weapons, for example), but a ‘limited government’ mindset was the new norm in the nation’s capital.

2034 saw the world looking at America once again as a shining beacon of freedom and prosperity after a long and painful struggle.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 11:37:03 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: MNDude

I could imagine a series of diary entries like this -

My world ended for the first time just before my 18th birthday. Dad called the family together to break the news to us. To boost profits, the Corporation who owned the farm where we worked would now rent out our home. The place where I grew up would now be going to the highest bidder. Because he worked for the same Corporation that was tossing us out, Dad said he couldn’t afford the minimum bid for the place. That’s when he let us know they’d also cancelled our status as tenant workers. Since sharecroppers cost less, the bastards stood to make even more profits.

Happy Birthday.

We left the next morning. There was no real choice. It made no sense to fight the status change. If we stuck around, a labor enforcement squad would arrive to bust up what little we did own. Then, they would start busting us up. Dad loaded Mom and the other kids in the truck. They left for a place he knew of in the one of the old Canadian Providences. Once there, he’d hoped to get some work.

I loaded up my cyclo and headed for a harvesting operation in the area. These operations were always on the move and as a result, had a constant need for drivers and mechanics. At least I wouldn’t have to worry about my next meal. Or so I thought. I learned a lot my first two years after I left home.

The first thing I learned was just because someone works with you doesn’t mean they won’t try to steal everything you own first chance they get. Because of the turnover, you couldn’t afford to trust anyone. Ever. I got lucky, I only lost my canvas hammock, not a killer. It just meant that I had to sleep in the dirt and crud found on the floors the ‘worker housing’ that some farms provided. Other places, I just crashed in the tractor cab, there wasn’t even a shelter. Working sunup to sundown was nothing new. Having no place to sleep was a bit of an...adjustment.

The next big thing I learned was that sometimes you can get something for free that will wind up costing you damn near every credit you own. The medic told me the kind of VD I had was the least expensive to treat. It took nearly every credit I had, but at least my member wasn’t going to fall off.

Other fun things I learned... Never drink with the people you work with. Put some of your processed food away at each meal. If it rains, you don’t work. If you don’t work, you don’t eat. Start looking for a winter job when - well, you should always on the lookout for a winter job. One that offered room and board. Credits are one thing, but a place to crash and eats aren’t taxed. At least I don’t pay ‘em.

My first winter job was at a heavy equipment rebuild shop. It paid two meals a day, hot, and a decent enough place for me to sleep. Sunday mornings off. The owner was a real work of art. Insisted on paying me everyday. He made a big show of putting credits on my chit, very theatrical. The first weekend I worked for him, I hit a local food outlet and checked my credit balance. I honestly wasn’t surprised to see the SOB had snatched back almost half of my daily wage. I could live with that. Every second he wasn’t around, I worked on rebuilding my scoot, using his tools, parts and material.

Once things turned warm, I loaded up on his fuel. Grabbed all the food the scoot could carry and headed for the breadbasket looking for a planting outfit. I wasn’t burning a bridge. I knew I would never work for the slug again, just the same, my scoot was running pretty sweet.

I learned I wasn’t nearly as smart or skilled as I thought. I got by though. I was offered a gig as a labor enforcer. They were a licensed outfit, so I took the offer. It took me more than a few bruises, but I figured out who would leave with a little encouragement and which ones wanted a fight. The stoners were always the worst. No way to tell how they would react. Some were so mellow; you could lead then by the hand off the property, shutting the gate before it dawned on them what it meant. The scrappers were the worst.

Most outfits didn’t give a s*** what you did off the clock. You showed up reasonably sober and ready to work, everyone was happy. Show up a little more than stoned, you might lose a day’s wages. Show up stoned enough to shove a coworker into the maw of a harvester and now nobody was happy. I didn’t see a guy get shredded, but one of my squaddies swore he was there when it happened. Yeah. Right. Legendary stuff, that.

The biggest thing the job did teach me was how to sort out the worst of the worst by their teeth. Hygiene was optional for most the crews, you had to get past that part pretty fast. Bad gleamers is a sure sign of heavy drug use and certain trouble for any enforcer squad. Before it was all over, two of us would travel with the recruiter team just to offer an opinion how soon we would have to bust someone’s head to get them off the property. Ah, the good old days.

The down side was that everyone hated you. The gomer who eff’d up and got tossed. The stoner or Tune head that got put out. The local pigs thought...no, make that knew that you were stealing rice from their bowl. You’d get sucked into a big brawl and they would just stand there and laugh at you. I love pigs.

The end of season was always the worst. Everyone on the crew got tossed. The exception was a mechanic or two selected for the routine winter rebuilds and maybe a couple of Enforcers. We were kept on to ensure as little as possible walked away in the off season.

Over time, things just got harder and harder. Smaller crews, more work, less pay and finally, less food. Nobody had any idea of just why this was going on. The open media was a bad mix of full time advertising and rumor mongering. So I just tried to get by until everything ran out. Several of the nomadic outfits folded altogether and the couple that remained pretty much just paid in food. When I saw the first of the automated harvesters working on the farm next to the one we were on, I knew that it was all over. My world ended again. All that was left was to decide what might be possible to keep body and soul together.

*****
Is it going to get this bad? Dunno. What do you think?


25 posted on 08/02/2014 11:59:01 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: MNDude

I’ll have a 9:30 tee time.


26 posted on 08/03/2014 12:02:07 AM PDT by upsdriver (Palin/West '16)
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To: ASOC

what no Gulags for the ideologically impure?


27 posted on 08/03/2014 12:03:06 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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28 posted on 08/03/2014 12:13:26 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: MNDude
White Europeans, having been driven out of their own countries, will come to the New World to start a new life. They will at first live peaceably with the natives of the land, but as more and more White Europeans arrive they will move further and further west. They will disrupt the local ways, disrespect traditions, and take what they can along the way.

Hostilities flare as cultures collide.

-PJ

29 posted on 08/03/2014 12:26:34 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Lazamataz

What’s that pic from?


30 posted on 08/03/2014 12:31:19 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: gura

bump


31 posted on 08/03/2014 12:41:40 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Lazamataz

the trees look kinda fake


32 posted on 08/03/2014 12:43:33 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: spokeshave

Al Gore wins another Nobel Prize for his work with global warming. We are told we are wrong for paying attention to the mini ice age and that we’re just panic mongers.


33 posted on 08/03/2014 12:47:42 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: MNDude

Either blood or lost.


34 posted on 08/03/2014 1:08:46 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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35 posted on 08/03/2014 1:29:06 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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36 posted on 08/03/2014 1:39:04 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: MNDude
In the post-appocoliptic Amerika, your new leader speaks!


37 posted on 08/03/2014 3:14:12 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: MNDude

The Detroit Lions end up in last place.......again


38 posted on 08/03/2014 3:18:20 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Is there such a thing as a vegan zombie?)
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To: MNDude

In a surprise move, the NCAA’s “Mascot Ethics Review Board” has declared that all Big - 10 collegiate hockey teams may no longer use animals or rodents as team nicknames.


39 posted on 08/03/2014 3:28:16 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: MNDude

Blade runner comes to mind.....

Or something like the fifth element....

News of the day: August 3rd 2034....

In an surprise announcement Google has put out a recall notice on all human implanted hard drives because the open source code can be hacked and the legal ramifications of their device used for criminal activities is too large...

In a special news announcement Barak Obama and Reggie Love have finally given a date for their upcoming marriage...


40 posted on 08/03/2014 4:01:19 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MNDude
History does not repeat, but it is cyclical.

By 2034, America will be on the other side of a great Crisis which has now only dimly shown its true nature. We will be then about 10 years into a High, an era whose nature will be something like it was in America in 1955: a postwar boom, an "era of good feelings." People will by busy building new lives, making babies, and generally trying to forget the unpleasant business of the last few years, a Crisis and War on which so many spent their lives, or had them taken from them in a flash.

As a result of the Crisis, I suspect that America will be broken up into two or more regional countries, at least one of which will still be dying from the radiation left by multiple nuclear strikes. At least one of the regional countries will be a fascist dictatorship. At least one of them will have returned to the pre-16th Amendment Constitution.

A combination of happy and grim: that's how I see America in 2034. We cannot now imagine the changes in American society that will come, just like those in 1955 could not have imagined them in 1935.

If you want more, read the book "The Fourth Turning," although the thoughts above are my own.

41 posted on 08/03/2014 5:17:23 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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Your prediction is closest to mine.

I expect that there are two choices:

(1) we will be a single poor totalitarian country, whether national socialist, soviet socialist, or another indistinguishable brand of totalitarian socialism and all individual rights will be dead, or

(2) more than half of the United States will be a free and prosperous post-CWII country with far more respect for the Bill of Rights (and especially for the Second Amendment) than even the most conservative and patriotic states have today. In this scenario, any states that are not free and prosperous will be separate from the real United States (regardless of which half keeps that name) and suffering from the poverty that they think is cause by bitter clingers in the free states, but that sensible people know is caused by their socialist policies.


42 posted on 08/03/2014 5:29:37 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: MNDude

The BEST THING about 2034 is that the Baby Boomers will be almost all dead or retired (present company excepted, of course), so they won’t be able to tear up what’s left of the country. I once heard someone compare them to a bad meal, you just have to pass it through your system.

The problems facing this country and especially Europe will be huge. For Europe, I expect Nazi-style round-ups of their Muslims by then. They simply will have to make a choice, either eliminate the problem, or live (maybe) under ISIS-type rule. And they will figure out that they have to act BEFORE the numbers are stacked too badly against them. So expect another purging over there...they may look like cowards today, but their history suggests that they can act when required.

For the US, it will go one of two ways, either we buck-up enough and simply close our southern border to immigration (and somehow get the illegals back home), or we allow ourselves to be repopulated. In both cases the future is quite easy to see: In the first case, the country assimilates the immigrants that are here, they learn English, and they vote majority-Democrat, but not a huge majority - maybe 60-40, or 65-35 at worst. They wind up replacing the FDR Democrats and the union-idiots that both vote Democrat without knowing why and we remain a two-party country. In the second case, we end up like Argentina - a broken multi-ethnic country where every 10 or 20 years we default on debt and clean out any savings that people may have. The vast majority of people live poor (the book 1984 describes how most of us will live, quite well), while the well-skilled make it to lower middle class. The government types and organized crime types are the only ones that get wealthy.

For the rest of the world, China will at least DOUBLE our GNP by then (probably triple), and their military will show it, so we’re done with having any influence in that part of the world. We’ll pull our navy back (hopefully before losing a few carriers to China) and Japan will have to face them alone (and they know that day is coming). China will also be calling the shots in much of the rest of the world. Hopefully they’re nice to us. Assuming the second US scenario, Russia also will be MUCH STRONGER than us, they will have rebuilt their nuke arsenal, along with their navy and, as they show even today, they have NO INTENTION of letting the leftist-mentality get in their way. So they’re set for a strong future.

That’s my predication.


43 posted on 08/03/2014 5:31:19 AM PDT by BobL
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To: RandallFlagg

Fallout 3, where the world was devastated with a nuclear war 200 years before.


44 posted on 08/03/2014 5:49:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: BobL
The problems facing this country and especially Europe will be huge. For Europe, I expect Nazi-style round-ups of their Muslims by then. They simply will have to make a choice, either eliminate the problem, or live (maybe) under ISIS-type rule.

I always tell people, do not underestimate the Caucasian man. We may not have invented genocide, but we sure streamlined it a lot.

45 posted on 08/03/2014 5:51:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz

“I always tell people, do not underestimate the Caucasian man. We may not have invented genocide, but we sure streamlined it a lot.”

Yea, they are coming around. Parties like UKIP and people like Marine LePen are the first shots. They will slow, maybe stop, immigration, and, most importantly, allow OPEN DEBATE on the issue, rather than simply jailing their opponents, as the present government do. At that point they can start dealing with their internal problems. I expect them to use a citizenship test that requires everyone to trace their roots back to having European ancestors in 1950 or so. If they cannot, then they would be paid to leave peacefully. If they choose not to leave, they will be offered more, and if they still want to stay then they will be rounded up and removed (in some fashion), anyway.

It will be tough on many of them, as they were born in Europe and may not even speak the language of their parents - but they have proven themselves to be every bit as much of a threat to their hosts as their parents (actually, it turns out most of the immigrant-parents were good people, it’s their kids kicking up the dust). So it won’t be fun for them, but there seems to always be enough wars down there to give them something to do to keep busy.


46 posted on 08/03/2014 6:00:58 AM PDT by BobL
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To: CapnJack

Ayatollah of Rock-n-Rolla?


47 posted on 08/03/2014 6:02:35 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: BobL
I get a kick out of people who dismiss the French, for example, as cowardly and ineffective.

France is a country of warriors. With the notable exception of World War II, you will not find a more deadly nation of men. This is a country that did THIS:


48 posted on 08/03/2014 6:25:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: GeronL

BRAWNDO!


49 posted on 08/03/2014 6:30:35 AM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: Lazamataz

I always check the trash cans, mailboxes and dumpsters when I walk thru there. I have been conditioned.


50 posted on 08/03/2014 6:35:57 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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