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Former Putin advisor: Russia shot down MH17
Obozrevatel ^ | July 24, 2014 | Andrei Illarionov

Posted on 08/03/2014 1:30:53 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa

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1 posted on 08/03/2014 1:30:53 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa
Зачем был сбит амстердамский "Боинг"?
2 posted on 08/03/2014 1:43:23 PM PDT by Brother Cracker ( Mossberg 500 helps me deal with being old and cranky)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

if they intended to blame ia disaster on the separatists they should have come up with a plan that involved equipment that the separarists had and they didn’t, not the other way around.

the plan described above should end with Putin saying “now we wait for nightfall then we leap out of the rabbit!”


3 posted on 08/03/2014 1:50:20 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Polonium anyone....

This guy’s days are numbered....to about the same as the half-life of Polonium.


4 posted on 08/03/2014 1:57:23 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

He seems pretty smart. Maybe he can answer these stupid questions.

http://rt.com/news/174496-malaysia-crash-russia-questions/


5 posted on 08/03/2014 1:58:16 PM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

The bigger question is: who’s going to do anything about it?


6 posted on 08/03/2014 2:09:25 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Ivan Mazepa
Since its usual route ran roughly south, the Russian authorities had to close 12 air corridors for pilots to leave the only possible route L980, which runs in the area of Torez and Snizhne.

Hmmmmm --

Now why would Putin close those corridors unless he knew that the rebels had something to reach those planes and wanted to make it easy for the BUK crews to target the right one flying west to east.

Why that plane at that time when there is not even any Ukrainian military jets in the sky to confuse it with.

7 posted on 08/03/2014 2:17:44 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Should he answer answer every stupid question where “evidence” is a fake photo?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3186704/posts?page=118#118


8 posted on 08/03/2014 2:23:01 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Pass the salt please.


9 posted on 08/03/2014 2:26:10 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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To: Ouderkirk

I don’t think they would. They might try this stuff in England, but this guy is in US and I don’t think American intelligence services would look kindly at that.


10 posted on 08/03/2014 2:28:12 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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Odd but I don’t see where in their questions the Russians claim there were bullet holes. Maybe you can point it out to me.


11 posted on 08/03/2014 2:32:33 PM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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Should he answer answer every stupid question where “evidence” is a fake photo?

The holes look like they could have very well been caused from shrapnel. Was the anti-aircraft missile involved one that explodes on proximity to the target?

12 posted on 08/03/2014 2:36:23 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Deliver us, oh LORD, from the EVIL that has befallen our once Great GOD fearing land!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

A proximity fuse aboard the missile determines when it will detonate, creating an expanding fragmentation pattern of missile components and warhead to intercept and destroy the target.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system


13 posted on 08/03/2014 2:49:18 PM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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To: McGruff

I was referring to the pictures Russians used, not the bullet holes, #118


14 posted on 08/03/2014 2:53:58 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: McGruff

As far as I can tell, some German “expert” claimed that the cockpit of MH17 showed bullet holes on an outward trajectory. The Russians took to the story like dogs to vomit.


15 posted on 08/03/2014 2:56:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

“He seems pretty smart. Maybe he can answer these stupid questions.”

RT? Really?


16 posted on 08/03/2014 3:04:39 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Explodes on proximity. Some holes in the fuselage might look like bullet holes (round), others not.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/1d6a9ac2-10e3-11e4-b116-00144feabdc0.html


17 posted on 08/03/2014 3:07:33 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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Lets quit all the BS and admit that Russia shot the MH17 down. Period. Russian missile vehicle and Russian manned.
18 posted on 08/03/2014 3:09:10 PM PDT by Logical me
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Hey McGruff, can you show us the 12 air corridors that the Russians shut down and explain why they would shut those corridors down???

All they had to do was take away those BUK launchers that their children were playing with in Ukraine.

Or tell them not to shoot at planes that are flying TOO HIGH to identify.


19 posted on 08/03/2014 3:10:06 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Logical me
Lets quit all the BS and admit that Russia shot the MH17 down. Period. Russian missile vehicle and Russian manned.

But Obama: 'Russia Doesn't Make Anything'

from question 3:

“As far as we know, the Ukrainian military had three or four air defense battalions equipped with Buk-M1 SAM systems deployed in the vicinity of Donetsk on the day of the crash.

They even have satellite photos. How come we don't have any satellite photos?

20 posted on 08/03/2014 4:02:10 PM PDT by McGruff (Seems like some are more interested in protecting Ukraine's border than ours)
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