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GOP Legally Barred From Fighting Voter Fraud
Freedom Outpost ^ | 11/21/2012 | Tim Brown

Posted on 10/28/2014 1:50:54 PM PDT by bigtoona

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To: Sirius Lee
Class action lawsuit. I am directly harmed by fraudulent elections. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

Sorry, no "standing".

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21 posted on 10/28/2014 2:37:02 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: bigtoona

The ruling applies to the RNC but not to voter groups. Tea Party conservatives, independents and GOP moderates can form their own organizations to push through voter reforms.

The makeup of the RNC today might even make things worse.


22 posted on 10/28/2014 2:46:54 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Massive vote fraud in the 2012 election was well documented here. GOP just refused to do anything about it.

After 4 years of disastrous policies it should’ve been a landslide win for us - both the WH and the Senate were stolen.

This country is so far gone now I don’t know if we’ll ever recover.


23 posted on 10/28/2014 2:47:02 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: Cen-Tejas; bigtoona
I do question that there is not “another way” for the Pubs to “police” elections.

Absolutely, and who would want to be represented by those not intellectually flexible enough to find such ways.

It appears it was Bigtoona who wrote above: "This is why the Republicans have been so adamant about pushing for Voter ID laws." Again, absolutely correct.

Further, in fairness I think all the Pubs agreed to do in this suit and what appears to be at the center of the court's view, is not to
“us[e], [or] appear[] to use, racial or ethnic criteria in connection with ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy suspected vote fraud.”

Now, who among us does not agree that makes sense?

There may be many legitimate grounds for criticizing the Republican party but it is not clear this is one of them.

24 posted on 10/28/2014 2:59:49 PM PDT by frog in a pot (We are all in the same pot.)
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To: bigtoona

This applies ONLY to the RNC and does not affect any State or Federal elected rep or appointed officer.


25 posted on 10/28/2014 2:59:54 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: RIghtwardHo

WTF? We find that over 6% of all illegals voted at a rate of 80% for 0bama and YOU think that because this hasn’t been litigated that it’s not real?

Go F yourself.


26 posted on 10/28/2014 3:26:40 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind
WTF? We find that over 6% of all illegals voted at a rate of 80% for 0bama and YOU think that because this hasn’t been litigated that it’s not real?

WTF yourself — It's because the illegal votes are for the other guy that you're angry?
That's screwed up.

27 posted on 10/28/2014 3:52:04 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: bigtoona

They trot this lame excuse out every election. So what do we have to do? Take up arms because the GOP is afraid of contempt charges? Sorry, I haven’t bought it any of the other times they trotted this lame excuse out.


28 posted on 10/28/2014 3:57:17 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

They don’t need “massive fraud”. A trunkful of ballots in the right places is all it takes sometimes. OTOH, 6-14% of illegals voting comes pretty damn close to “massive fraud” if you ask me. Add that to the corrupt polling in places like Philly and Ohio where 100-110% of registered voters vote and the ridiculous situation in Colo. now and I would disagree with you.


29 posted on 10/28/2014 4:02:23 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

You say not massive. I posted at the time and have since, my own precinct here in Tidewater was tinkered with. I have voted at that building for twenty years and NEVER waited in line. Folks here were adamant about voting the Klown out. There was a line 100 yds long and it just got longer and longer ALL DAY. There were 2,100 votes in 2008 ( with NO WAITING) yet only 2,000 in 2012. Multiply this by who knows how many precincts, I would say that is massive. Especially in an important key state like VA. I am sure there were no problems WHERE YOU LIVE IN FAIRFAX.


30 posted on 10/28/2014 4:17:41 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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No, any fraud is the problem, don't you see that? It's just that it always affects Republicans disproportionately. This is another example of that.

For you or RI to not think vote fraud is an issue is patently crazy. Why, on earth, do you take the friggin' side of liberals on this issue? I didn't cast any aspersions against libs, so get your prissy panties out of a wad.

31 posted on 10/28/2014 4:22:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind
No, any fraud is the problem, don't you see that?

That's exactly my point!

It's just that it always affects Republicans disproportionately.

Why should that matter — it's either right or wrong, who it effects is not a factor.

For you or RI to not think vote fraud is an issue is patently crazy.

You didn't read what I wrote. — I firmly believe that all voter fraud is problematic.

Why, on earth, do you take the friggin' side of liberals on this issue?

I'm not.

32 posted on 10/28/2014 4:26:15 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: bigtoona

This is just waiting for a TEA party lawyer to pick a fight.

This is ripe for review by the Supremes.


33 posted on 10/28/2014 4:30:24 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: bigtoona; JohnLott

This looks to me like a job for John Lott. We can add the attorneys later as there are some good ones out there.


34 posted on 10/28/2014 4:43:03 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: frog in a pot

...excellent response, I do still believe though in my complaint about the pubs that this article, about the consent decree, misses one major and salient point.

Namely, that the pubs aren’t involved in efforts to make the dims behave in the polling places has little if anything to do with the consent decree in question.

Rather, it is part of a pattern of not doing a damn thing on a plethora of tough gonad issues and this consent decree has more to do with that fact than the words in the consent decree.


35 posted on 10/28/2014 5:47:17 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: frog in a pot

.........yes, I “seriously” wonder to myself “just what the hell is going on with the pubs?!

There are many actions they COULD take but don’t take. # 1 among them is their Constitutional Right to just lock the bank! The sobs have the fn votes but won’t do it! Set aside the bs reason that they don’t want to make the left and the media mad at them. Then ask yourself.......... Why!?

Lends credit to blackmail as a possibility.............


36 posted on 10/28/2014 5:55:07 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: OneWingedShark; RIghtwardHo; Lazamataz

Apparently, there are people in Maryland who believe as many as 7% of all registered voters are illegals and registered to vote.

Again, you barely hear any gripes about this from liberals, but instead, only from conservatives and people concerned that Republicans also do this against Dems (hat tip to OneWingedShark).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3220676/posts


37 posted on 10/28/2014 6:24:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: bigtoona

Isn’t this one to move up to the Supreme Court?


38 posted on 10/28/2014 6:25:57 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Can the independent party bring suit instead of the GOP?


39 posted on 10/28/2014 6:53:28 PM PDT by bigtoona
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To: frog in a pot

“Further, in fairness I think all the Pubs agreed to do in this suit and what appears to be at the center of the court’s view, is not to “us[e], [or] appear[] to use, racial or ethnic criteria in connection with ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy suspected vote fraud.’ “

if this is indeed the case, why hasn’t there been any pursuit of calling out election fraud based on the integrity of the ballot/vote cast, regardless of the racial makeup of the voters?


40 posted on 10/28/2014 6:58:37 PM PDT by IWONDR
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