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The NFL found 11 of the Patriots' 12 footballs were under-inflated by 2 pounds of air (PSI)
bostonherald.com ^ | Jan 21, 2015 | Jeff Howe

Posted on 01/21/2015 4:04:41 AM PST by Boston Blackie

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To: Boston Blackie

If air pressure is that much of an issue, until they start being smart and filling the balls with nitrogen the question is moot.


61 posted on 01/21/2015 5:29:33 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: 1rudeboy

Probably Putin’s fault.


62 posted on 01/21/2015 5:29:46 AM PST by McGruff (We have met the enemy and they are our own party.)
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To: WayneS

That makes sense.


63 posted on 01/21/2015 5:30:04 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where God and guns have not been outlawed! Molon Labe)
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To: Travis McGee

Yes, it’s going to make some difference, but not that much. I go back to the way it was found out. The Colts player that intercepted the ball noticed the difference. He knew it was out of specs, I’d think the refs should have known as well.


64 posted on 01/21/2015 5:31:03 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Joe 6-pack
Ok...then why was the 12th, properly inflated ball not affected?

They stole it from the Colts.....

65 posted on 01/21/2015 5:34:06 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I'm a man of no-color and proud of it.)
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To: 1rudeboy

exactly,, we allow cheating and skirting the rules in everyday life already...
excuses for everything..


66 posted on 01/21/2015 5:34:14 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Girlene

Yes, but what I’m trying to point out to you is:

1) Most QBs prefer the balls under-inflated, so at most they would be handing in balls at 12.5—not the average that is allowed.

2) Reportedly it is not uncommon for teams to hand in under-inflated balls, hoping that the refers don’t bother to find and correct the difference.

3) In cold weather, balls deflate outside after that measurement. It wasn’t really cold in New England for the game, but it often is for games this time of year.

Put that all together and refs are probably used to handling balls that are under the technical 12.5 minimum.


67 posted on 01/21/2015 5:34:32 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: bert

People use “pounds” to denote pounds per square inch all the time.

When I pulled in to the pits during an endurance race I did not tell my tire guy “Please inflate the rear tire by an additional 1.5 pounds per square inch of pressure” - I yelled “Add 1.5 pounds to the rear”. He knew what I meant, and I avoided spending half the day on pit road.

The article even included the notation “(PSI)” at the end of the sentence in question.

Jeff may very well be ignorant, but your misguided criticism is not proof of such.


68 posted on 01/21/2015 5:35:18 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

If the under-inflation was intentional, then the 12th ball could have been for the kicker.


69 posted on 01/21/2015 5:37:35 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Travis McGee
Under-inflated balls are why the score was 45-7? Seriously?

Who ever imagined the game would be that lopsided? The alleged cheating might have influenced a close game, but with the perfect knowledge of 20-20 hindsight, it wasn't necessary. The points spread was said to be 6.5 points prior to the game, so many people expected it to be close, presumably including the teams themselves.

70 posted on 01/21/2015 5:38:38 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: 1rudeboy

Who cares? I’ll second that. A pimple on the ass of time game takes up this much oxygen?

If both teams used the same balls, where was the advantage?

No wonder the Kenyan is succeeding when an insignificant game becomes a national issue for the public.


71 posted on 01/21/2015 5:42:01 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Fresh Wind
keep in mind, if you inflated the balls to 13 psi in a very warm room (90F ?)... then brought them outside to 20F.. they would deflate a bit

Exactly. That's what tires do, same would apply to footballs.

They would also need to check the 12 balls the colts provided and see if they are under inflated as well.

If they are, chalk it up to the weather. If not, Belicheat has struck again.

72 posted on 01/21/2015 5:43:49 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: CAluvdubya

The only problem with this argument is that the footballs are kept warm on the sideline when not in use on the field...


73 posted on 01/21/2015 5:43:58 AM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: WayneS
A game official handles the football immediately prior to each play. If there was a problem, it could and should have addressed it before or during the game.

A Colts player wearing gloves intercepted a pass and felt something was wrong with the ball but at least two game officials with bare hands handled the ball before the play and noticed nothing?

74 posted on 01/21/2015 5:44:46 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Well, John Kerry was shmoozing in the owner’s suite.

Now there's an expurt on underinflated balls.

75 posted on 01/21/2015 5:45:06 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: N. Theknow

Strange, isn’t it?


76 posted on 01/21/2015 5:47:28 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Boston Blackie

Here is the bottom line....prior to kickoff the ref’s handle the balls from both sides. The ref’s would have 100% noticed if the Pats balls had been 2psi under-inflated. There is more to this story....


77 posted on 01/21/2015 5:49:13 AM PST by maineman (BC Eagles fan)
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To: 9YearLurker

This is interesting—the memories of a ball boy for Bill Belichick. Sounds like Bill got to know at least this ball boy, up close and giving him favors, pretty quickly:

Giants long snapper Zak DeOssie, ball boy New England Patriots 2000-2001: “Larry Izzo was a special teams player, and he recognized I was Steve DeOssie’s son when I walked in the door. He took me under his wing, and all of the linebackers then sort of adopted me as their ball boy. I took care of them. They let me get a pair of shoes. It was an incredible experience.

“Coach Belichick asked me during camp if I like Bon Jovi. I told him I did, even though I really didn’t know much about him. He said, ‘Great, we’re going to the Tweeter Center tonight to see him.’ I said, ‘Are you kidding? What about bed check?’ He said, ‘Don’t worry about it.’ I went to the concert with coach Belichick, his wife at the time, his right hand man Berj Najarian and his wife. I’m standing next to Coach Belichick and we’re jamming out to Bon Jovi. I’m a junior in high school. To have him include me in that was pretty cool. Those memories will stay with me for a long time.

“Then when the Patriots went to the Super Bowl, Coach Belichick let me come to the game and be a ball boy on the sidelines. No responsibilities. Just stay out of the way. And I was there on the field to watch Adam Vinatieri kick the game winner against the Rams... Fast forward five years, I’m playing against the Patriots and Larry Izzo in the Super Bowl my rookie year. I’m lining up for a punt snap and half of the punt return team is calling me ball boy and yelling at me to go get them a Gatorade after I botch the snap.”

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/90206418/nfl-ball-boy-lessons-larry-fitzgerald-john-elway-philip-rivers


78 posted on 01/21/2015 5:51:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: IamConservative

Another source reminded readers that the Patriots were fined in 2007 for spying on an opponent.

No team needs this kind of controversy swirling around them leading into the Super Bowl. No matter what the investigation concludes, the Patriots are going into the big game looking like cheaters in the eye of the public and this is all the press is going to be talking about in the next couple of weeks.


79 posted on 01/21/2015 5:53:25 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: matginzac

I think that there were only 2 Seahawks that did an infomercial for Obiecare, and maybe they were given an offer they couldn’t refuse. I’ve not seen the ad. I’ve heard that Russell Wilson is one of the Hawks in the ad. Russell praised God after the game, knelt in prayer with other players and visits patients at Seattle’s Childrens Hospital every Tuesday (without the media).

I’ve never met Pete Carroll, and don’t really know his history, except that he was a winning coach in college ball and has been good for Seattle. I have a very good friend that knows Pete very well and said he is a great guy.

Marshawn Lynch (Beast Mode) wouldn’t go to the WH as part of the winning SB team (good on him I say).

Just felt compelled to stick up for my Seahawks :-)


80 posted on 01/21/2015 5:54:41 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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