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Marine Corps Infantry Gender Experiment. FAIL!
UFP News ^ | 04/11/2015 | SGT A

Posted on 04/11/2015 5:50:44 AM PDT by kingattax

Well, it’s finally over with… The United States Marine Corps for the past three years, at the direction of those in the Department of Defense, following the direction of the Commander-in-Chief, Barrack Hussein Obama, have completed their experiment attempting to integrate women into combat arms positions and units.

The final result?… Epic FAIL!

The effort came to an end on April 02, 2015, when the last of two female volunteers participating in the current Infantry Officers Course at Quantico, Virginia, were dropped during the grueling Combat Endurance Test. The unimaginably difficult course is the gauntlet that every Marine Corps Officer MUST complete to earn the privilege of becoming a leader of the finest warriors the world has ever know – United States Marines!

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KEYWORDS: militarywomen; usmc
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Boys will be boys and no matter what rosie o'donnell or barry obozo thinks, girls CANT be boys.
1 posted on 04/11/2015 5:50:44 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax
My View On This Very Topic
2 posted on 04/11/2015 5:59:34 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama;A Low Grade Intellect With Even Lower Morals)
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To: kingattax
Every Marine is a rifleman first, not a rifleperson.

With that in mind, I don't think women should even be in the Marine Corps. That's my $0.02, anyway.
3 posted on 04/11/2015 6:08:03 AM PDT by ComputerGuy
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To: kingattax

Why would any country want to put women in combat roles. They are not thinking of the consequences.


4 posted on 04/11/2015 6:10:56 AM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: Lets Roll NOW

I think of it this way, what would the response be to insisting that 40% of combat troops were of below average height, strength, and endurance?

It’s plain idiocy.


5 posted on 04/11/2015 6:14:18 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: kingattax

We have to fix this!
Lower the standards immediately!


6 posted on 04/11/2015 6:27:02 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

the current loooosers in congress and the white house

have already tasked the military- to start testing
women for — Special Forces!- ALL branches-

Sooo how many women can do 100 Correct pushups-
20 correct chin ups
80 correct situps
put on a 30 lb pack and run 4 miles in under 30 minutes-

Are there even a dozen ?— in the whole world?


7 posted on 04/11/2015 6:35:41 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: kingattax

“I don’t trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn’t die...”


8 posted on 04/11/2015 6:39:46 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: kingattax

In the realm of all available women, there are surely females who can lead just as effectively as men; who can out PT, out shoot, out fight your average male Marine Officer candidate going through this course, if measured by the same exact standards and requirements as the men. At the very least, there are surely females who can best the male Marines who barely squeak by and pass the course. What this exercise has proved is that none of those women chose to compete for the position and that they are darned few and very far between.

If they lower the standards one iota to accommodate lesser females, then the exercise will be proven a farce and will be the biggest insult I could imagine to females. But if they ever do find a female that passes this course under the same standards and requirements demanded of males, then she will have proven herself a truly exceptional woman with a proven ability to lead.


9 posted on 04/11/2015 6:40:16 AM PDT by jaydee770
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Doesn’t seem to be a failure at all, seems to be a confirmation of the prior held position.

The thing about all these efforts to get women into these combat positions is that eventually one or to or five women will pass one of these courses, my guess is it will probably be a reservist with excellent fitness and ambition but little intention of living the life as a career.

The fight then will then be not to prove that one female is capable, but to keep the SJWs from erasing the mountains of prior evidence and experience that proves how inefficient finding one token female is, and how that mountain of evidence justifies the status quo, not the further squandering of resources to find the next one or pretend that all female servicemen are equally capable.


10 posted on 04/11/2015 7:16:10 AM PDT by jz638
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To: jaydee770

The range of females that would meet the same Marine infantry officer physical standards as males most likely ranges from one in 100 to one in 1,000 or more. Physiologically, men are simply stronger than women and adapted, owing to our hunter pasts and to evolution, to life in the field in a brutally harsh ground combat environment. There’s much more that goes into successfully leading infantry troops in the field than just being able to exert eight pounds of trigger pull, after all.

It doesn’t make sense to me to surge women into ground combat infantry roles (armor and arty is still an issue, even) if their presence within such units is going to be mostly as a statistical oddity or anomaly. What’s the point or aim to that?


11 posted on 04/11/2015 7:20:54 AM PDT by BigKahuna ("When somebody's not getting the job done, you gotta let him go.")
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“the finest warriors the world has ever know – United States Marines!”

This story is full of inaccuracies. While I respect Marines, and my pappy was a Marine. The finest Warriors the world has ever known are from the U.S. Army Military Police Corps. Just sayin’

12 posted on 04/11/2015 7:30:55 AM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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she will have proven herself a truly exceptional woman with a proven ability to lead.

She would be an exceptional woman. 'with a proven ability to lead', not so much. Even the men who pass IOC haven't done that. More to leadership than PT and passing a tactics course.

13 posted on 04/11/2015 7:32:35 AM PDT by xone
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To: skinkinthegrass; onedoug; 2ndDivisionVet; ConorMacNessa; NKP_Vet; PROCON; Alamo-Girl; SargeK; ...

Military experiment ping


14 posted on 04/11/2015 7:37:57 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 04/11/2015 7:44:04 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kingattax
I graduated IOC over thirty years ago, right on the heels of TBS. It was six days per week of heavy combat-oriented PT, field exercises and classwork, with little sleep and no down time. I loved it, but it was very tough. Unlike the Infantry Training Course which is designed to build up enlisted Marines' fighting skills and fitness, the Infantry Officer Course is designed to make student officers fail the course so they won't go on to fail their Marines in the fleet. IOC's high failure rate underscores its success in delivering the successful combat leaders that our Marines deserve. What few people realize is that the female officers who have attempted the Marine Infantry Officer Course have been the strongest and toughest that the Corps could find. Most of them were collegiate athletes, and all of them have failed the course. But IOC is much different from sports, challenging the kind of physical and mental strength, endurance, aggressiveness and sheer will required to lead Marines in ground combat. It is never enough for Marine infantry officers to keep up with their Marines - they must LEAD their Marines!

Ground combat is a gruesome task for strong men led by stronger men. Even the toughest are broken and slaughtered. Marine Corps infantry is no place for social experimentation, and pretending otherwise is a recipe for disaster. I credit USMC leadership for not compromising our standards, but it is past time to put this phony issue to rest.

16 posted on 04/11/2015 7:49:08 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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Why would any country want to put women in combat roles. They are not thinking of the consequences.

Yeah. It's not whether they can get through boot camp. It's how many women do you want to see coming back with their arms or legs blown off, and/or suffering from PTSD with SSRI addiction. Or whatever. Plus taking the men's minds off their duty roles.

17 posted on 04/11/2015 8:15:28 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: kingattax
The unimaginably difficult course is the gauntlet that every Marine Corps Officer MUST complete to earn the privilege of becoming a leader of the finest warriors the world has ever know – United States Marines!

Oh, a woman can certainly lead. Not in physically gruelling combat, but there are plenty of other military tasks at which women are perfectly capable of leading.

18 posted on 04/11/2015 8:26:26 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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I believe women can be completely success ful Marines in very many—most, even—military specialties.Logistics, intelligence, admin, etc. are fine. Even pilots (fighter pilots? I don’t know.) but Combat specialties like infantry or even artillery? He!! no. More liability than asset, IMO.

TC


19 posted on 04/11/2015 8:33:36 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: kingattax; imardmd1; Lets Roll NOW
The true "war on women," is the Feminist war on femininity and the feminine woman. There is no equality--certainly not between the sexes, and certainly not among either sex. Everyone is different; none of us ever sat next to our equal in any classroom, unless it was a twin or triplet.

Much of the advance of civilization--something clearly being reversed in our present era (civilization that is)-- relates to honoring the vast difference between the sexes. All new life springs from those primary differences. In the West, this was seen clearly in the development of a Chivalric code; where protecting women was seen as a primary male duty--a duty that helped bring out the best in young men;--a duty that in the military often inspired courage and sacrifice "above & beyond" the call of duty, itself.

We are all, men & women, boys & girls, alike, being betrayed by gutless politicians who are so worthless as to let themselves be absolutely intimidated by an irrational hue & cry from those who compulsively would deny the realities of nature.

See Feminist War On Love & Nature.

20 posted on 04/11/2015 8:33:48 AM PDT by Ohioan
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