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Why Spanking Does Not Work | Elizabeth Gershoff and Stefan Molyneux
YouTube ^ | Published on You Tube on September 3, 2016 | Stefan Molyneux

Posted on 09/03/2016 8:24:21 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan

New studies have failed to find even a single positive benefit to spanking children and a near endless amount of horrible effects. Dr. Elizabeth Gershoff joins Stefan Molyneux to discuss her latest study, refuting the common pro-spanking arguments, why social justice warriors have nothing to do with less aggressive parenting, associating love with physical abuse and ending the escalating cycle of violence in relationships.

Dr. Elizabeth Gershoff is a developmental psychologist, in addition to being a Faculty Research Associate and Associate Professor of Human Development and Family Sciences at University of Texas at Austin. She recently published a revolutionary new study called “Spanking and Child Outcomes: Old Controversies and New Meta-Analyses.”

(Excerpt) Read more at youtu.be ...


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: abuse; bringbackspanking; farleftdrivel; feminism; idiocracy; liberalagenda; molyneux; parenting; possibleopus; psychology; spanking; stefan; stupidity
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To: Arthur McGowan
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

— Proverbs 13:24

Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. / Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (She’ol).

— Proverbs 23:13-14
Left-wing society keeps denying that, and we all keep reaping the consequences.
21 posted on 09/03/2016 8:48:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Arthur McGowan

Yes...yes it does.

Done effectively, the mere fear of being hit will be enough to keep most children respectful, especially into adulthood.

Wanna know who wasn’t hit? Liberals who rant and rave and throw tantrums like children. They learned long ago it worked and didn’t bother to develop any further. One or two smacks when they were 6 and they just might be productive adults.


22 posted on 09/03/2016 8:54:31 PM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Ok, spanking is a part of a punishment arsenal. You can spank, you can scold, you can withhold, you can threaten, you can yell, you can guilt, and you can explain. There are lots of tools in the parental tool belt. And you should use the correct tool with discretion. Personally I used spanking on points that I needed to make clearly and strongly. When my kid was trying to stuff a paper clip in a light socket. When my kid was running across the street. Those were times when I did not want my kid to test me or get it wrong. And since my kid had never been spanked she really got the message that this was something really bad.

I also, spanked my oldest child because she thought she could hit the rest of the kids. After a bunch of yelling and explaining and sitting on the stairs, we simply smacked the kid like she was smacking her younger siblings. Problem solved and the other kids were very happy.

But, let me warn you. A kid will be able to take a spanking if spanking is used too much. And since its your last card, you are now out of ammo. Good luck. The kid will know he has taken your worst and he will be empowered. So, I advise that you use spanking as a last resort or an explanation mark. To get across the point that something is really wrong.

Also, kids can handle spanking. Its not the worst you can do to your child. Withholding love or respect, belittling them, or guilting them endlessly is likely to have longer lasting negative effects. Punishment is not as effective as positive reinforcement. However, every parent knows. Positive reinforcement does not work all the time with all the children.


23 posted on 09/03/2016 8:54:35 PM PDT by poinq
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To: Arthur McGowan

It worked on me. I rarely was spanked but when I was it was totally justified, and it did adjust my attitude.

I also remember well my PE coach. When a couple of kids where out of control, I was one. He would decide that each needed a licking. He would give the paddle to one to give give the licking to the other. The first thing that went through your mind was I do not like that SOB, the second thing that went through your mind is if I take it easy on him he may not take it easy on me. I wacked the Bast—d as hard as I could. He did the same to me.

My instructors logic worked! Both our asses hurt.


24 posted on 09/03/2016 8:54:49 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND ROUGHNECK MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN , CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

Have you watched the video?


25 posted on 09/03/2016 8:56:01 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: poinq

Have you watched the video?


26 posted on 09/03/2016 8:56:21 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Mjreagan

Have you watched the video?


27 posted on 09/03/2016 8:56:43 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Thanks for posting this! My parents ALWAYS negotiated with me and my sibling.

PS - Trump did not spank his children, and I believe that’s one of the many reasons Stefan likes him.


28 posted on 09/03/2016 8:57:02 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: sargon

Bttt


29 posted on 09/03/2016 8:58:46 PM PDT by wardaddy (free republic is an aging demographic)
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To: Voluntaryist

Notice all the people bloviating, when not enough time has elapsed for them to watch the video.

Note how many people cite THEMSELVES for how a human being ought to “turn out.”


30 posted on 09/03/2016 8:58:46 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: sparklite2

One day perhaps before it’s too late you will be intellectually able to understand that you are headed to hell.


31 posted on 09/03/2016 8:58:56 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Olog-hai

Have you watched the video?


32 posted on 09/03/2016 8:59:37 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

The notion that a priest doesn’t believe the Scriptures would have surprised me before I came to FR.


33 posted on 09/03/2016 9:00:44 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Donglalinger; Mr. Mojo; Pelham

Now you’re talking

In my many years I’ve never ever known a gal that didn’t get off like that with someone they trusted

It’s the damnedest thing

Even Yankee fembot Megyn Kelly types

In fact

They like best

Women?

I’ll never figure it out


34 posted on 09/03/2016 9:00:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (free republic is an aging demographic)
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To: sparklite2

Since that is not what children are told, except perhaps in the fringiest of fringey snake-handling Sunday schools, it’s not an interesting question.


35 posted on 09/03/2016 9:01:32 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Right Brother

You have not, of course actually watched the video. Not enough time has elapsed.

You are suggesting, of course, that those who oppose spanking are recommending that people raise their children the way Harris and Klebold were raised.

Which suggestion is, of course, moronic.


36 posted on 09/03/2016 9:03:50 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Donglalinger

Who is that, what is that from, and why isn’t she at my house right now ?


37 posted on 09/03/2016 9:06:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Proverbs 13:24 is one of the most misunderstood passages in the Bible.

A firm swat on the butt when junior is being a brat is sometimes necessary to teach the child that “your yes means yes, and your no means no.” Matt. 5:37
Yanking a child’s arm out of socket, beating in anger or cursing at a child —when the adult is having a bad day —is not ok.


38 posted on 09/03/2016 9:07:02 PM PDT by mumblypeg (Make America Sane Again.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
That's just how irrational thinking works unfortunately.

He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

The parent is the shepard, full of love and wisdom, thus it is a the rod/staff of a shepard. This is how I see it and was brought up to believe.
39 posted on 09/03/2016 9:07:04 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: Arthur McGowan

If it did not work God would not prescribe it. He does not require us to do it all the time or a lot or whatever, but it is biblical discipline. He did not make an error. I’ll believe the bible over and against a bunch of atheist sociologists.


40 posted on 09/03/2016 9:09:05 PM PDT by Persevero (NUTS)
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