Posted on 10/06/2016 10:19:04 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
It would go to the House of Representatives, where I would not for one nanosecond trust the RINOS there not to side with Hillary.
The powers that be will never never allow Trump presidency, I used believe elections were real no more
Actually, first it goes to the electors, themselves, and one of them could bolt.
The nation wasn't supposed to know the outcome of presidential elections until the president of the senate counted the electoral votes in front of congress.
Donald Trump: The Echo of Our Framers Uncorrupted President.
Simple answer is no
Get Out The Vote
Imagine trying to get re-elected as a Republican congressman who voted Hillary into office to break a tie...they may not like Trump, but he would still win a House vote, the cost is too high for a Republican who votes against him.
Why is that a “nightmare”?
This exact scenario was anticipated and the appropriate action(s) were written into the original Constitution.
The People are sovereign, we rule ourselves through our Congress, and if it’s a tie (or if for any other reason no candidate has 270 EV) the President will be elected on January 3, 2017 by the new House of Representatives.
Hardly a nightmare. This is exactly what should have happened in 2001, and the fact that it didn’t has had many serious consequences.
Well then, "people" can go screw. That's not our system.
If SCOTUS had not intervened in 2001, Florida’s electoral votes would have gone to Gore, putting him over 270. The House scenario would never have happened.
False.
That's quite likely whoever wins.
False.
The House gets to choose, but only from the top three electoral vote winners.
If Only Clinton and Trump win EVs, the House must choose one of the two. If Johnson wins New Mexico, he would also be eligible. If Jill Stein wins Vermont, SHE would also be eligible.
Since Biden will (presumably) have zero EV, he would not be eligible under any circumstances.
What COULD happen in a 269-264-5 result would be that six (or more) GOP electors could switch their votes to Jeb Bush, or Paul Ryan, leading to a 264-263-6-5 outcome.
The GOP House would then presumably elect Bush or Ryan.
It's also possible that, in that same scenario, six Democrat electors or more could vote for Biden, making HIM eligible.
You have way more confidence in the Senate than they deserve. I would expect the usual 18-23 Republicans stuck by themselves voting for Pence.
“False.”
Not so. Until the Electoral College votes, you don’t know for sure who the top 3 will be. Theoretically, it could be any of Trump, Clinton, Johnson or Stein. Based on current polling, that currently implies Trump, Clinton and Johnson, but that’s just speculation. So I included Stein in the list because she might get more votes that Johnson.
Not true. The Florida Legislature appoints the electors, not the Florida Supreme Court.
The Legislature was in session, with large Republican majorities, and was ready, willing, and able to appoint Bush electors. Remember, the Florida Secretary of State had already certified those electors.
So, when the Congress met on January 6, 2001 in the Special Joint Session, operating under the rules of the Electoral Vote Counting Act (1877), with 272 Republicans and 260 Democrats, there were three possible outcomes:
1) The Congress would have counted the Bush electors. Bush has >270 EVs, becomes President-elect, and gets inaugurated in two weeks.
2) The Congress could have counted the unconstitutionally-appointed Gore electors. Unlikely, with a GOP majority, but in any event - the Florida Legislature would have appealed immediately to SCOTUS, which would have had no choice because the power to appoint electors is plenary and belongs only to State Legislatures, or 3) (and most likely, IMO) Congress would have rejected both slates, leaving Gore 266 and Bush 246, and the GOP House, where 30 state delegations had GOP majorities, would have elected Bush the next day.
There was no way Al Gore could have become President, under any of the above scenarios.
The most the Democrats could have achieved would have been for Joe Lieberman to be elected VP by the 50-50 Senate, with President of the Senate Al Gore casting the tie-breaking vote.
Yawn....
This isn’t going to end in a tie... Its got two conclusions:
One the traditionalist view of the race is correct, and its a squeaker for one or the other....
or
The traditionalist view of the race is completely incorrect and Trump obliterates Hillary.
While it may be technically be possible to have a tie, it is also technically possible that when I turn around the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my life will be there with her bosoms heaving begging me to make her feel like a woman....
Just because something is TECHNICALLY possible, does not mean its going to happen. Possible and Probable are two completely different concepts.
Hellary will whip out Box 13. As long as she’s in charge of the count, it won’t come anywhere near a tie.
Also, the Electors are Constitutionally free to vote for whomever they choose. State laws to the contrary are Unconstitutional. If there were ever going to be a year when Electors might decide to use their full powers, this would it.
Not that I think they will, but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible. My comment about what the House would Constitutionally be able to do was based on what’s theoretically possible, not on what’s probable.
House Delegations:
Republican Majority: 34
Democratic Majority: 17
Tied: 4
This includes the delegations for territories and Washington DC. Without those it is R-32, D-14, T-4
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