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The one scenario that could still get Hillary into the White House
New York Post ^ | 11/9/2016 | By Laura Italiano

Posted on 11/10/2016 5:00:43 AM PST by EBH

Although the idea of the electors trying to reverse the vote is occasionally discussed — such as after the incredibly close 2000 election in which George Bush narrowly beat Al Gore — going “faithless” is exceedingly rare.

More than 99 percent of electors throughout American history have voted as pledged, according to an analysis done by the New York Times.

The last faithless elector reared his roguish head back in 2004, when a lone anonymous voter in Minnesota declined to vote for Democrat John Kerry and instead voted for Kerry’s running mate, John Edwards.

The rogue’s vote was purely ceremonial, as Bush already had 286 electoral votes ensuring his re-election.

Faithless electors are barred in only 29 states from ignoring the will of the voters, though the penalties are light. And a faithless elector has never swung an election.

The Founding Fathers created the Electoral College because they were actually “afraid of direct democracy,” according to FactCheck.org.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: electoral; electoralcollege; faithless; gop
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Protests, riots, threats, and they are already trying to gear up for another 'historic' moment? How many electors are they going to try and buy off or threaten?

The thing is, they always telegraph their next move and I don't think they are done yet with this election. If the paid mob makes enough noise will the electors mistake it for the will of the people and do something historic for the 'good of nation?'

1 posted on 11/10/2016 5:00:43 AM PST by EBH
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To: EBH

Or ... maybe Jeb still has a chance!!!!


2 posted on 11/10/2016 5:01:56 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: EBH

This is how communists always act


3 posted on 11/10/2016 5:02:11 AM PST by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: EBH

Last I saw Trump had 305 to her 206 or so..

so I don’t think they are going to flip 64+ of them.


4 posted on 11/10/2016 5:02:14 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: EBH

The mob of deplorables has spoken as well, and is far larger. This guy is just making a deadline.


5 posted on 11/10/2016 5:02:33 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Last I saw Trump had 305 to her 206 or so..

so I don’t think they are going to flip 64+ of them.


6 posted on 11/10/2016 5:04:14 AM PST by COBOL2Java ("He may be a sinner but she's the Devil" - a minister on the candidates)
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To: EBH

No, not when Trump has 290 or 306 EVs.


7 posted on 11/10/2016 5:04:37 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: jiggyboy

It Hillary’s electors that are flipping and Trump will have 308


8 posted on 11/10/2016 5:05:12 AM PST by Rodm
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To: EBH

I recall an elector from Washington who stated that he would not vote for Hillary.

I do not believe that the 2016 Electoral College vote in December will be an issue for Trump.


9 posted on 11/10/2016 5:06:44 AM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: EBH

For immediate release
November 9, 2016

LP Vice Chair Open Letter to Democrats
Arvin Vohra, Vice Chair of the Libertarian Party released this open letter to Democratic voters today in response to their candidate’s decisive defeat:

Democratic voters:

Do you know why the Democratic Party lost despite better organization and more money?

It’s because you literally nominated an openly pro-war Democrat. (Obama at least pretended otherwise.)

The current version Democratic Party is strongest in politically correct parts of cities, where people are often more influenced by the fashion of politics than by the substance. But the real Democratic voters, the ones who have been Democrats for decades, are not really interested in safe spaces and nonsense. They are opposed to war. Many of them became Democrats in response to the Vietnam war and to Nixon’s War on Drugs (which is ironic, given that Democrats initially got the U.S. military involved in Vietnam).

When you nominated an openly pro-war “Democrat”, that was frankly too much. They could not support that type of person. And rightly so.

To those anti-war Democrats: what do you do when a spouse mistreats you? First you try to convince them otherwise. If that doesn’t work, you leave, and make them earn you back.

It’s time for you to ditch the pro-War “Democratic” party. Join the actual anti-War party: the Libertarian Party. If the Democrats want your vote and your energy, make them earn it. Make them pledge to end the War on Drugs and end U.S. involvement in foreign civil wars. Libertarian Candidates have already signed pledges to that effect.

And to the anti-War left that has been missing since 2008: please stop the hypocrisy. Democrats bombing foreign countries is just as bad as Republicans bombing foreign countries. If you cannot hold your own candidates the the same standards you hold Republican candidates, you are either hypocrites or fools.

If you want to stop war, bring the troops home, shut down foreign military bases, and cut taxes accordingly, please join the Libertarian Party. Learn more at lp.org.

In Liberty,

Arvin Vohra
Vice Chair
Libertarian National Committee


10 posted on 11/10/2016 5:08:30 AM PST by Bogie
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Trump has 300+ EC votes. Good luck flipping enough of them. Furthermore, if the system goes bananas and electors start abandoning their assigned candidate en masse, what makes anyone think Hillary won’t also suffer a massive defection in the EC?


11 posted on 11/10/2016 5:09:45 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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Yes,...

Try that.

You won’t enjoy what happens.


12 posted on 11/10/2016 5:10:36 AM PST by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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I thought it was supposed to be a Constitutional Crisis when Trump wouldn’t commit to accepting the election results.

This would be the very definition of a Constitutional Crisis


13 posted on 11/10/2016 5:10:59 AM PST by digger48
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To: Bogie

Now that is rich!


14 posted on 11/10/2016 5:11:56 AM PST by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: EBH; All

Can someone on this thread send me a link to the updated Electoral College map [as of 10NOV2016]?


15 posted on 11/10/2016 5:12:47 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: BBB333

I think he said that he reuses to vote for a criminal that belongs in jail. He is correct, I don’t blame him.


16 posted on 11/10/2016 5:13:13 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies (...lock..her...up...and..him..too....all of them.)
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To: digger48

Isn’t it just crazy! The very people that demanded Trump accept the election results are now out in the streets rioting and the press has already started to hint and challenging the Electoral College Delegates.


17 posted on 11/10/2016 5:14:10 AM PST by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: EBH

The only way I see her getting into the WH is if DT invites her in. Other than that, well.......


18 posted on 11/10/2016 5:15:17 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

It isn’t about the vote or the map. It isn’t all said and done until the actual EC delegates vote in their respective state capitols.


19 posted on 11/10/2016 5:15:57 AM PST by EBH (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Mr. K

Waking the sleeping giant is one thing, but really whizzing him off after you wake him up would really be a big mistake.


20 posted on 11/10/2016 5:17:18 AM PST by DOC44 (Have gun will travel.)
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