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Question about Executive orders and judges.
3/16/17 | sff

Posted on 03/16/2017 1:41:01 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Serious query here. I am upset with the judges who have said Trump cannot enforce his EOs.

But I just had a "flashback" that seems to raise a question. Maybe it has been expressed but I don't recall seeing it in this manner.

Here it is: Executive Orders are directions by the Chief Executive to employees and deputies of the executive BRANCH. That is, the chief executive CANNOT make rules for those working directly for the other two branches.

Question: Are these judges unconstitutionally (if my understanding of EOs is accurate) meddling in another branch of gov't?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; History
KEYWORDS: constitution
I guess I should also ask if my EO understanding is on target.
1 posted on 03/16/2017 1:41:01 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Self ping....????...hey that felt...??..good


2 posted on 03/16/2017 1:52:38 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: SoFloFreeper

under circumstances where the order can be shown to violate the law. As an extreme example, you can’t order a federal employee to rob a bank. These cases turn on whether the ban is legal or illegal. The court in Hawaii says religious discrimination is more important than national security so the ban is illegal.


3 posted on 03/16/2017 1:59:11 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: SoFloFreeper

There is one caveat: Executive orders are subject to judicial review. Thank John Marshall and Marbury v. Madison. But really wasn’t used until the Truman era. It’s why Obama’s DACA EO’s were held up by the courts. Except in this case, the courts are wrong.


4 posted on 03/16/2017 1:59:54 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: SoFloFreeper

The courts do not have standing to stop the POTUS concerning immigration in any manner.

As per Mark Levin and several others.


5 posted on 03/16/2017 3:00:44 AM PDT by stockpirate (FIRE ALL OBAMA & BUSH APPOINTEES NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
You are really overthinking this.

The entrenched Democratic governing apparatus will never allow Trump to govern.

The state and national Republican majority surrender monkeys will always surrender.

That is the way it has been, is, and will always be.

6 posted on 03/16/2017 3:51:18 AM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: Badboo

The nation is fast learning for whom congress, judges, and the administrative state have always worked; they work for social justice and their own interests.

We wouldn’t know this unless the people chose the Anti-Establishment Trump.

You are right. The Establishment will never allow Trump to govern, and never allow him to get away with pen and phone diktats. If Trump is stymied, and prevented from building the border wall and keeping barbarians out of the country, I wouldn’t be surprised if he appeals to the people to support an Article V convention to reestablish free government.


7 posted on 03/16/2017 5:16:39 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper

1. Fill Supreme Court vacancy
2. Bring it the court.
3. EO upheld


8 posted on 03/16/2017 5:38:36 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Question: Are these judges unconstitutionally (if my understanding of EOs is accurate) meddling in another branch of gov’t?”

My answer (note - I’m not a lawyer, just a retired pollster, but I play a lawyer on the Internet): This has never been litigated. These judges are expanding the bounds of judicial power, and technically the Supreme Court gets to decided if their overreach is constitutional. President Trump can allocate staff in a manner that slows visa approvals to zero. He doesn’t need the order to get the job done. I’m not sure he wants this to go to SCOTUS until the 9th justice is approved.


9 posted on 03/16/2017 5:41:32 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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